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tularetom

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83. I sure cannot accept the story that she killed herself

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 06:35 PM

Jul 2015

And as incompetent and racist as those cops seem to be, it's hard for me to believe they are so stupid that they thought they could go into her cell, put a plastic bag over her head and smother her and get away with it.

I had not realized that she was epileptic and was on medication, and that she was denied the meds for an extended period after she was jailed. If there is proof of that, it seems likely that there is a good case for manslaughter or negligent homicide against the cops.

But the larger point is, the woman never should have been in that fucking jail in the first place. And there was something in the dash cam video that they were afraid of, hence their clumsy attempt at editing it. I read somewhere that she may have hit her head during the arrest (or been hit on the head) which could trigger a seizure some days later and that incident is what they didn't want anybody to see.

So I guess my answer is no, I don't believe she was "murdered" per se, but it's very apparent that she died as a result of official negligence.

And somebody clearly needs to be held accountable for it.

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Do you think Sandra Bland was murdered? [View all] MoonRiver Jul 2015 OP

Yes Glitterati Jul 2015 #1

I agree. We've got to get the evidence. nt MoonRiver Jul 2015 #2

I have no idea, but B2G Jul 2015 #3

Based on what I've seen so far, yes n/t deutsey Jul 2015 #4

Quite. nt bemildred Jul 2015 #5

I think the official narrative has more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #6

No kidding! Glitterati Jul 2015 #10

absolutely nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #7

Yes , many jails throughout Texas have had similar deaths, nothing ever gets done AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #8

No... brooklynite Jul 2015 #9

Okay so I heard on tv that she was on "suicide watch". HUGE question nc4bo Jul 2015 #14

Of course you don't. Rex Jul 2015 #90

Well, personal insults certainly make your case stronger... brooklynite Jul 2015 #130

YES! brush Jul 2015 #131

Yes ann--- Jul 2015 #11

I don't know. But I do know I've lost respect for local law enforcement closeupready Jul 2015 #12

It certainly looks suspicious. And she should have never been arrested in the first place. Lil Missy Jul 2015 #13

Yes. n/t ZM90 Jul 2015 #15

Yes. nt nc4bo Jul 2015 #16

Yes I Do rbrnmw Jul 2015 #17

I think that it's likely el_bryanto Jul 2015 #18

Way too many people would have to conspire to pull off a jail murder like this seveneyes Jul 2015 #19

She knew that her family was raising funds to get her out. virtualobserver Jul 2015 #20

I don't believe it was suicide. Cleita Jul 2015 #21

"A caller into a radio show said..." jberryhill Jul 2015 #86

People were speculating and discussing, not forming policy. Cleita Jul 2015 #96

This was the county lockup, not a prison jberryhill Jul 2015 #108

So you seem to know all about it. Why bother with me? Cleita Jul 2015 #109

I saw a news video of the cell, that hardly means I know "all about it" jberryhill Jul 2015 #112

Because "I heard it on the radio" means no more and no less than that but Cleita Jul 2015 #115

yeah, the fuckery is deep w these guys elehhhhna Jul 2015 #103

I doubt we will ever know npk Jul 2015 #22

Yes. historylovr Jul 2015 #23

Yes, but I do not think we will ever be told officially nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #24

My guess is that when the cop threw her to the ground pnwmom Jul 2015 #25

Interesting take, but quite possible. Especially since she had epilepsy. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #30

That's interesting. cwydro Jul 2015 #34

that was my take too. maxsolomon Jul 2015 #35

I don't think she commited suicide... movonne Jul 2015 #76

The Autopsy will tell the tale maxsolomon Jul 2015 #79

That's a good guess - TBF Jul 2015 #42

Post concussion syndrome, it can take days for her brain to swell uponit7771 Jul 2015 #55

Yup. pnwmom Jul 2015 #56

I wondered that also d_r Jul 2015 #61

That white car disappearing in the video of her initial interacction with the police was creepy. applegrove Jul 2015 #26

can't say 6chars Jul 2015 #27

I don't know Prism Jul 2015 #28

Murder bravenak Jul 2015 #29

Absolutely. randys1 Jul 2015 #31

Yes! daleanime Jul 2015 #32

Untreated Concussion maxsolomon Jul 2015 #33

Also, while the officer was bashing her head, she said she had epilepsy. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #36

and he was happy about her epilepsy restorefreedom Jul 2015 #43

VERY CREEPY! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #47

and so unbefitting restorefreedom Jul 2015 #50

Racist is my guess. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #53

looking that way sadly. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #99

According to her family she was never diagnosed with epilepsy or depression Person 2713 Jul 2015 #49

Yep, and it's not fredamae Jul 2015 #54

EMS was called to evaluate her at the traffic stop hamsterjill Jul 2015 #75

She refused treatment at the scene madville Jul 2015 #91

Alright..... fredamae Jul 2015 #93

It was the tape that is 52 minutes long hamsterjill Jul 2015 #123

It certainly seems likely, doesn't it? pnwmom Jul 2015 #38

Yes. CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #37

Physically murdered at the hands of someone else ... maybe etherealtruth Jul 2015 #39

At this point, I'd say no. Chemisse Jul 2015 #40

Yes, in an ideal world everyone would be "cool and polite" when stopped by the police. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #64

We can never hold others to our own standards of temperament. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #69

You're absolutely right. Chemisse Jul 2015 #70

I can't imagine why any black person in this country would be stressed about being pulled over justiceischeap Jul 2015 #94

She said she wanted her day in court mucifer Jul 2015 #121

Based upon History fredamae Jul 2015 #41

Yes, it certainly looks that way. n/t zappaman Jul 2015 #44

she had also said restorefreedom Jul 2015 #45

EMS was called to the traffic stop. hamsterjill Jul 2015 #77

very. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #98

That promising new life could have been scuttled by an arrest Warpy Jul 2015 #46

YES. I think she was beaten or brutalized in some way that went too far and they (cops) tried kelliekat44 Jul 2015 #48

Yes still_one Jul 2015 #51

No, but I believe her arrest was completely inappropriate. Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #52

So far, yes. randome Jul 2015 #57

looks like it to me- ruffburr Jul 2015 #58

Yes, I do think so. Glorfindel Jul 2015 #59

Lynched. nt daredtowork Jul 2015 #60

Murder. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #62

Nothing I saw on the video suggested a suicidal person. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #63

yes ibegurpard Jul 2015 #65

Yes. MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #66

I really don't know. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #67

Fuck yeah. nt bemildred Jul 2015 #68

I don't believe enough information has been Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #71

I agree mythology Jul 2015 #89

"she never should have been in that situation" jberryhill Jul 2015 #113

He did not show the patience needed to be a cop. Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #122

yup craigmatic Jul 2015 #72

Honestly, I am not sure Marrah_G Jul 2015 #73

Lynching by cop. JEB Jul 2015 #74

Yes cantbeserious Jul 2015 #78

I think she died under suspicious circumstances, and a murder and civil rights investigation Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #80

Highly likely. Ilsa Jul 2015 #81

Yes. (nt) Paladin Jul 2015 #82

I sure cannot accept the story that she killed herself tularetom Jul 2015 #83

I don't know jberryhill Jul 2015 #84

In a word, YES! bermudat Jul 2015 #85

ATM I do believe fouldplay was involved. nt Rex Jul 2015 #87

based on what i've seen... Takket Jul 2015 #88

Yes. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #92

yes n/t tazkcmo Jul 2015 #95

Yes... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #97

Yes. It is clear. CTyankee Jul 2015 #100

In the same way Trayvon was murdered, if you believe Zimmerman. MH1 Jul 2015 #101

Yes PatrickforO Jul 2015 #102

I think it is likely she was murdered XRubicon Jul 2015 #104

Anything is possible madville Jul 2015 #105

I have no doubt in my mind she was murdered. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #106

probable nt LWolf Jul 2015 #107

Very important question. H2O Man Jul 2015 #110

I have no clue. I only know that jailing her was an escalation that should not have happened. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #111

The copy should be put back in kindergarten. Cleita Jul 2015 #119

It's so damn obvious, isn't it? Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #133

Yes. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #114

Far more probably than not - like 85-15% yes. hifiguy Jul 2015 #116

YES!. nt Boxerfan Jul 2015 #117

She shouldn't have been in that jail cell mcar Jul 2015 #118

"I will light you up." wundermaus Jul 2015 #120

"I will light you up.". Another roid raging cop. They are covering something up with GoneFishin Jul 2015 #124

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #125

Yes I do think she was murdered notadmblnd Jul 2015 #126

Something is so fishy MFM008 Jul 2015 #127

Looks like it to me. n/t gollygee Jul 2015 #128

Yes. SolutionisSolidarity Jul 2015 #129

YES NO DOUBT! Rockyj Jul 2015 #132