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MH1

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101. In the same way Trayvon was murdered, if you believe Zimmerman.

Wed Jul 22, 2015, 06:41 PM

Jul 2015

He racially profiled and stalked Trayvon. Even if the fight went like Zimmerman said, in my mind he is still a murderer because his own hostile, aggressive actions led to the situation where he killed Trayvon.

In Bland's case, I believe the cop racially profiled her, followed her until he had an excuse to stop her, then used a flimsy excuse to escalate the situation in a totally unnecessary and physical way. His hostile and aggressive actions ultimately led to her death. If he wasn't there and didn't do what he did, she'd be alive.

I totally distrust the conclusion of suicide but don't know what will be proved. Still, in the casual use of the word as opposed to the legal sense, I absolutely believe she was murdered.

I tend to also believe that if she committed suicide it was related to her injuries from the assault. I have a hard time believing that someone entered her cell to kill her because I just don't see her as a big enough player as an activist, and I'm sure cops deal with lawsuits all the time and have ways to handle that without killing people. But I certainly could be wrong.

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Do you think Sandra Bland was murdered? [View all] MoonRiver Jul 2015 OP

Yes Glitterati Jul 2015 #1

I agree. We've got to get the evidence. nt MoonRiver Jul 2015 #2

I have no idea, but B2G Jul 2015 #3

Based on what I've seen so far, yes n/t deutsey Jul 2015 #4

Quite. nt bemildred Jul 2015 #5

I think the official narrative has more holes in it than a block of swiss cheese. Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #6

No kidding! Glitterati Jul 2015 #10

absolutely nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #7

Yes , many jails throughout Texas have had similar deaths, nothing ever gets done AuntPatsy Jul 2015 #8

No... brooklynite Jul 2015 #9

Okay so I heard on tv that she was on "suicide watch". HUGE question nc4bo Jul 2015 #14

Of course you don't. Rex Jul 2015 #90

Well, personal insults certainly make your case stronger... brooklynite Jul 2015 #130

YES! brush Jul 2015 #131

Yes ann--- Jul 2015 #11

I don't know. But I do know I've lost respect for local law enforcement closeupready Jul 2015 #12

It certainly looks suspicious. And she should have never been arrested in the first place. Lil Missy Jul 2015 #13

Yes. n/t ZM90 Jul 2015 #15

Yes. nt nc4bo Jul 2015 #16

Yes I Do rbrnmw Jul 2015 #17

I think that it's likely el_bryanto Jul 2015 #18

Way too many people would have to conspire to pull off a jail murder like this seveneyes Jul 2015 #19

She knew that her family was raising funds to get her out. virtualobserver Jul 2015 #20

I don't believe it was suicide. Cleita Jul 2015 #21

"A caller into a radio show said..." jberryhill Jul 2015 #86

People were speculating and discussing, not forming policy. Cleita Jul 2015 #96

This was the county lockup, not a prison jberryhill Jul 2015 #108

So you seem to know all about it. Why bother with me? Cleita Jul 2015 #109

I saw a news video of the cell, that hardly means I know "all about it" jberryhill Jul 2015 #112

Because "I heard it on the radio" means no more and no less than that but Cleita Jul 2015 #115

yeah, the fuckery is deep w these guys elehhhhna Jul 2015 #103

I doubt we will ever know npk Jul 2015 #22

Yes. historylovr Jul 2015 #23

Yes, but I do not think we will ever be told officially nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #24

My guess is that when the cop threw her to the ground pnwmom Jul 2015 #25

Interesting take, but quite possible. Especially since she had epilepsy. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #30

That's interesting. cwydro Jul 2015 #34

that was my take too. maxsolomon Jul 2015 #35

I don't think she commited suicide... movonne Jul 2015 #76

The Autopsy will tell the tale maxsolomon Jul 2015 #79

That's a good guess - TBF Jul 2015 #42

Post concussion syndrome, it can take days for her brain to swell uponit7771 Jul 2015 #55

Yup. pnwmom Jul 2015 #56

I wondered that also d_r Jul 2015 #61

That white car disappearing in the video of her initial interacction with the police was creepy. applegrove Jul 2015 #26

can't say 6chars Jul 2015 #27

I don't know Prism Jul 2015 #28

Murder bravenak Jul 2015 #29

Absolutely. randys1 Jul 2015 #31

Yes! daleanime Jul 2015 #32

Untreated Concussion maxsolomon Jul 2015 #33

Also, while the officer was bashing her head, she said she had epilepsy. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #36

and he was happy about her epilepsy restorefreedom Jul 2015 #43

VERY CREEPY! MoonRiver Jul 2015 #47

and so unbefitting restorefreedom Jul 2015 #50

Racist is my guess. MoonRiver Jul 2015 #53

looking that way sadly. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #99

According to her family she was never diagnosed with epilepsy or depression Person 2713 Jul 2015 #49

Yep, and it's not fredamae Jul 2015 #54

EMS was called to evaluate her at the traffic stop hamsterjill Jul 2015 #75

She refused treatment at the scene madville Jul 2015 #91

Alright..... fredamae Jul 2015 #93

It was the tape that is 52 minutes long hamsterjill Jul 2015 #123

It certainly seems likely, doesn't it? pnwmom Jul 2015 #38

Yes. CharlotteVale Jul 2015 #37

Physically murdered at the hands of someone else ... maybe etherealtruth Jul 2015 #39

At this point, I'd say no. Chemisse Jul 2015 #40

Yes, in an ideal world everyone would be "cool and polite" when stopped by the police. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #64

We can never hold others to our own standards of temperament. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #69

You're absolutely right. Chemisse Jul 2015 #70

I can't imagine why any black person in this country would be stressed about being pulled over justiceischeap Jul 2015 #94

She said she wanted her day in court mucifer Jul 2015 #121

Based upon History fredamae Jul 2015 #41

Yes, it certainly looks that way. n/t zappaman Jul 2015 #44

she had also said restorefreedom Jul 2015 #45

EMS was called to the traffic stop. hamsterjill Jul 2015 #77

very. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #98

That promising new life could have been scuttled by an arrest Warpy Jul 2015 #46

YES. I think she was beaten or brutalized in some way that went too far and they (cops) tried kelliekat44 Jul 2015 #48

Yes still_one Jul 2015 #51

No, but I believe her arrest was completely inappropriate. Yo_Mama Jul 2015 #52

So far, yes. randome Jul 2015 #57

looks like it to me- ruffburr Jul 2015 #58

Yes, I do think so. Glorfindel Jul 2015 #59

Lynched. nt daredtowork Jul 2015 #60

Murder. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #62

Nothing I saw on the video suggested a suicidal person. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #63

yes ibegurpard Jul 2015 #65

Yes. MerryBlooms Jul 2015 #66

I really don't know. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #67

Fuck yeah. nt bemildred Jul 2015 #68

I don't believe enough information has been Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #71

I agree mythology Jul 2015 #89

"she never should have been in that situation" jberryhill Jul 2015 #113

He did not show the patience needed to be a cop. Snobblevitch Jul 2015 #122

yup craigmatic Jul 2015 #72

Honestly, I am not sure Marrah_G Jul 2015 #73

Lynching by cop. JEB Jul 2015 #74

Yes cantbeserious Jul 2015 #78

I think she died under suspicious circumstances, and a murder and civil rights investigation Agnosticsherbet Jul 2015 #80

Highly likely. Ilsa Jul 2015 #81

Yes. (nt) Paladin Jul 2015 #82

I sure cannot accept the story that she killed herself tularetom Jul 2015 #83

I don't know jberryhill Jul 2015 #84

In a word, YES! bermudat Jul 2015 #85

ATM I do believe fouldplay was involved. nt Rex Jul 2015 #87

based on what i've seen... Takket Jul 2015 #88

Yes. n/t PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #92

yes n/t tazkcmo Jul 2015 #95

Yes... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #97

Yes. It is clear. CTyankee Jul 2015 #100

In the same way Trayvon was murdered, if you believe Zimmerman. MH1 Jul 2015 #101

Yes PatrickforO Jul 2015 #102

I think it is likely she was murdered XRubicon Jul 2015 #104

Anything is possible madville Jul 2015 #105

I have no doubt in my mind she was murdered. DisgustipatedinCA Jul 2015 #106

probable nt LWolf Jul 2015 #107

Very important question. H2O Man Jul 2015 #110

I have no clue. I only know that jailing her was an escalation that should not have happened. Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #111

The copy should be put back in kindergarten. Cleita Jul 2015 #119

It's so damn obvious, isn't it? Gormy Cuss Jul 2015 #133

Yes. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #114

Far more probably than not - like 85-15% yes. hifiguy Jul 2015 #116

YES!. nt Boxerfan Jul 2015 #117

She shouldn't have been in that jail cell mcar Jul 2015 #118

"I will light you up." wundermaus Jul 2015 #120

"I will light you up.". Another roid raging cop. They are covering something up with GoneFishin Jul 2015 #124

Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2015 #125

Yes I do think she was murdered notadmblnd Jul 2015 #126

Something is so fishy MFM008 Jul 2015 #127

Looks like it to me. n/t gollygee Jul 2015 #128

Yes. SolutionisSolidarity Jul 2015 #129

YES NO DOUBT! Rockyj Jul 2015 #132