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still_one

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14. I didn't make my point very well. I agree NAFTA and TPP are hostile to labor, and other factors
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:03 AM
Jul 2015

which put the U.S. at a disadvantage. My point was I don't think the motivation of the Democrats was to hurt labor, though they certainly knew it would, and did, but rather it was the influence of big money from certain corporations and ideologues to maximize their profits at the expense of the American worker.

I know it is a fine point, but Congress, including some Democrats effectively take bribes, which actually in a way worse than "taking revenge against labor", because it means they don't stand for anything, and don't really have convictions.

A perfect example is what is happening right now with the Iran nuclear deal. Senators are being bribed heavily to oppose this deal by various lobbying groups. Hopefully, there are enough Democrats that cannot be bribed, and will allow any rejection of the deal to be vetoed.

The same thing goes with labor issues, except it is much more difficult now because of the President's support of the TPP, which the republicans were all for, so the Democrats who would vote against it, wouldn't have enough votes. Maybe my pessimism is wrong, but until we elect representative who are working for the people, it is going to be a long road

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I'm sure the average American cares that his scab-mobile was (horrors!) transported by a scab. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #1
In my neighborhood ( I live in Ca -- Bay Area), ninety percent of the cars are Japanese, made in demosincebirth Jul 2015 #2
Doubtful they care who delivers 'em, since they don't care who makes 'em. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #4
+1. Brickbat Jul 2015 #9
and while I sympathize with the teamsters, I need to ask why they endorsed Ronald Reagan in 1984? still_one Jul 2015 #3
Carter's breaking of the ATC union, Bill Clinton's NAFTA, Obama's TPP obviate Romulox Jul 2015 #5
This was before Clinton and Obama, and is what started it all. I can understand them having issues still_one Jul 2015 #6
Thank you... teamster633 Jul 2015 #8
I understand that, but the Party's hostility to Labor for 40 years is enough "revenge". nt Romulox Jul 2015 #11
I agree. I would say however, it actually isn't the Democratic's party's revenge, rather it is the still_one Jul 2015 #12
I disagree. NAFTA, for example, was active hostility, not neglect. So is TPP. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #13
I didn't make my point very well. I agree NAFTA and TPP are hostile to labor, and other factors still_one Jul 2015 #14
"You guys"? You're not a Democrat? pnwmom Jul 2015 #7
Conserv-o-crats/neo-liberals. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #10
I think it is a response to your use of "you guys" still_one Jul 2015 #19
It was Reagan who broke the ATC not Carter. that set the precedent for breaking strikes with demosincebirth Jul 2015 #18
Actually Carter deregulated the airline industry. Look it up still_one Jul 2015 #20
Who pushed the bill through congress? Ted Kennedy. Also included was the trucking demosincebirth Jul 2015 #21
No question about it, reagan destroyed PATCO. It was really sad. i don't know who pushed the bill still_one Jul 2015 #23
I'm not disputing that. The ATC strike was on Reagan's watch. nt. demosincebirth Jul 2015 #22
Got it. Labor has been had by both sides at one time or another. Traditionally, though Democrats still_one Jul 2015 #24
The leadership of the Teamsters, at that time, were trying to stay out of jail. That's why they demosincebirth Jul 2015 #16
Ironic, considering it was Toyota who taught American auto workers to build good cars alarimer Jul 2015 #15
I agree. the American auto makers had to compete, inturn they made better cars. demosincebirth Jul 2015 #17
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