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craigmatic

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17. Most people don't consider 1968 realigning because policy didn't really change neither did
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 11:59 AM
Jul 2015

politics. It was alot of noise and assasinations and democrats were in disarray but 8 years later they came back. I think Carter was the last of the new deal democrats. Nixon just had anti-communism and the southern strategy but it was reagan that built the conservative church on tax cuts and small government. A realigning election is usually a period when a party becomes dominant and wins at least 3 elections in a row. That's why I said 1800, 1828, 1860, 1932, and 1980. The reason these elections are important is because they got America thinking in new ways about government and the people agreed so much that it was impossible for the party to lose a third term because the coalition was still hungry for power after the second term. For example FDR's democrats were so committed and involved that Truman had an easy time winning the presidency in 1948 even with the dixiecrats defecting. Lincoln's republicans were so dominant that they won 5 elections in a row ending slavey and reconstruction in the process. There were still enough conservatives in 1988 to push George HW Bush over the line. Clinton knew how to turn a phrase but there were not enough third way democrats to pull Gore over the finish line in 2000 even with the Florida election stolen. Gore should've been up more and won OH, NH, or one more of the western states but didn't because among other things bush represented the low tide of Reagan's movement. Most new coalitions only last about 30-50 years. That means realignments happen about every 40 years or so.

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People forget that Perot's support had dwindled to a trickle by election time. Chemisse Jul 2015 #1
his support didn't "seem" to come from both sides, ericson00 Jul 2015 #3
Clinton did not win a majority in 1996 either. former9thward Jul 2015 #2
How many elections in the last 125 years have a different popular vote & electoral vote winner? ericson00 Jul 2015 #5
Intersting you use "125 years" former9thward Jul 2015 #7
did you read the post? ericson00 Jul 2015 #8
Current System is Precarious mvymvy Jul 2015 #20
pork-barrel spending will never allow a national popular vote ericson00 Jul 2015 #21
Only 7 Swing States Expected in 2016 mvymvy Jul 2015 #35
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GOP talking points are disruptive ericson00 Jul 2015 #12
Still sore about it, huh? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #23
Its not different than "I am not a scientist" ericson00 Jul 2015 #25
Republicans can shut their f'ing mouths ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #27
its amazing how on progressive blogs the myth is almost as popular ericson00 Jul 2015 #28
You hate election facts. former9thward Jul 2015 #32
also he did win a majority, a "relative majority", a synonym for plurality ericson00 Jul 2015 #37
Nice try but i don't buy that 1992 was a realigning election for a minute. craigmatic Jul 2015 #4
you sound like a Republican ericson00 Jul 2015 #6
1994? 1939 Jul 2015 #9
I'm talking about Presidential elections here ericson00 Jul 2015 #10
1800, 1828, 1932, 1980, 2008 those were realigning elections. If Clinton changed the electorate so craigmatic Jul 2015 #13
you can't win 'em all. And Gore was a media unsavvy gaffe machine. ericson00 Jul 2015 #14
The reason the republicans stopped winning so many electoral votes is because craigmatic Jul 2015 #15
Your definition of realignment leaves out 1968 ericson00 Jul 2015 #16
Most people don't consider 1968 realigning because policy didn't really change neither did craigmatic Jul 2015 #17
"most people?" ericson00 Jul 2015 #18
We'll just never agree on Clinton's importance. craigmatic Jul 2015 #22
Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #24
The electoral votes of CA, DE, MD, IL, ME, NH, VT, PA, MI, NJ, CT, ericson00 Jul 2015 #26
SCOTUS justices are the bare minimum of what we expect of a democratic president. craigmatic Jul 2015 #33
and so ought to be electoral votes. The guy who fought ericson00 Jul 2015 #34
EVs are important but so are coalitions and more importantly policy. craigmatic Jul 2015 #36
Also, if you, like me, are offended by the smear against the facts the Clintons, ericson00 Jul 2015 #19
If anyone has a WSJ account, ericson00 Jul 2015 #29
Rachel covered this tonight Gothmog Jul 2015 #30
I know! She was epic ericson00 Jul 2015 #31
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