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tularetom

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29. Get rid of police unions

Reply to virtualobserver (Original post)

Thu Jul 23, 2015, 12:17 PM

Jul 2015

Politicians are scared to death of them and won't stand up to their demands.

Limit the amount of overtime allowed to be accumulated by each officer. Some cops are pulling down two or three times their annual salaries just by piling up overtime.

And get more cops out of cars and back on foot in the neighborhoods they're supposed to be patrolling. They need to be seen as part of the community, as approachable, rather than as an occupying army.

And finally, take away some of their toys. Local police departments do not need tanks, armored personnel carriers, or .50 caliber BMG's.

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How do we change the culture in local police departments? [View all] virtualobserver Jul 2015 OP

In this case the culture does trickle down from the top- riversedge Jul 2015 #1

Do you think that a Chief can come in from the outside and change the culture? virtualobserver Jul 2015 #6

Yes, I do. I have seen it happen in a samll riversedge Jul 2015 #26

Prosecute law enforcement officials for civil rights violations. MineralMan Jul 2015 #2

The problem with that 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #5

Federal civil rights charges can be criminal or civil. MineralMan Jul 2015 #9

That is very helpful 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #12

My pleasure. MineralMan Jul 2015 #13

I agree, but I worry about racism in the FBI as well. virtualobserver Jul 2015 #7

cut budgets dramatically Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #3

do you have an example of a place where that has worked? virtualobserver Jul 2015 #11

One way to do that 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #17

That's an excellent idea Man from Pickens Jul 2015 #37

If you cut budgets they'll increase seizures and traffic stops for cash NightWatcher Jul 2015 #18

Start putting abusive officers in prison. Lisa D Jul 2015 #4

I think that we are starting to see that..... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #14

Have Every Incident Pursued By IAD ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #8

with a lot of oversight from Justice and the community virtualobserver Jul 2015 #10

Sorry, I Wish I Knew ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #15

What does IAD stand for? nt 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #16

Internal Affairs Division (n/t) Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #21

Internal Affairs Division (eom) ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #41

The Justice dept hasn't done jack shit in these recent cases. Calista241 Jul 2015 #36

No Disagreement From Me ProfessorGAC Jul 2015 #42

Truly independent oversight of the police Major Nikon Jul 2015 #19

the nutjobs would freak out, but I couldn't agree more with you. virtualobserver Jul 2015 #24

Human nature is the same the world over Major Nikon Jul 2015 #32

I want this. bravenak Jul 2015 #46

By changing the culture of a structurally racist society, probably Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #20

We posted at about the same time. brer cat Jul 2015 #23

yes virtualobserver Jul 2015 #27

Racist and bigoted police departments exist brer cat Jul 2015 #22

I agree.....when a society is comatose in relation to a problem... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #28

I can't help but think that having a black President has brought much of the animus to Nay Jul 2015 #31

I definitely think that PBO, brer cat Jul 2015 #40

I have a friend who developed this project: Ron Green Jul 2015 #25

I think that it is an interesting idea..... virtualobserver Jul 2015 #30

Right, every individual cop has to decide on a daily or even minute-by-minute basis Ron Green Jul 2015 #34

Get rid of police unions tularetom Jul 2015 #29

Change will have to come from outside. procon Jul 2015 #33

Cut their fucking budgets. Less cops=bettercommunities. JEB Jul 2015 #35

Not if the police cop an attitude about it 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #45

I recently read an old article about a cop who has a record number of citizen complaints. Glassunion Jul 2015 #38

Make the police susceptible to the same laws we are, with "enhancements". cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #39

Make 'rights violations' career ending. beevul Jul 2015 #43

I think a prerequisite for being a cop should be at least five years satisfactory accomplishment... hunter Jul 2015 #44