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aint_no_life_nowhere

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63. Operation Pastorius
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 01:37 PM
Jul 2015

was an attempt by Nazi Germany to land plain clothes German soldiers by submarine in the United States to engage in sabotage of factories, electric plants, and the like. They were confirmed Nazis and had lived in the United States for years, speaking excellent English. Two of them were U.S. citizens. Before their plans could be carried out, they were apprehended, incarcerated, and executed by the Roosevelt Administration. Too bad we couldn't have done the very same thing with the 9/11 saboteurs.

We're living in a difficult time today, engaged in a de facto war with individuals who are de facto soldiers. These radical soldiers going to and from the middle east don't wear uniforms and fight in enemy lines. They don't get drafted and sign oaths with an enemy government that has formally declared war on the United States because there is no conventional Al Qaeda or ISIS government. There are no lines in this war and no one wears a uniform. But these radical Islamists are every bit as sick and murderous as Nazi soldiers were. How do you fight them? You apprehend them before they kill, the way we apprehended Nazi soldiers in plain clothes, some of them U.S. citizens during World War II. I don't like the idea of internment camps and I would hope their intentions have been very clearly understood and evidenced before we segregate them. Of course ISIS "soldiers" are likely to be of any gender or race, so the isolation of known radical Islamists is not racially motivated. ISIS "soldiers" can come from every walk of life, rich and poor Right now there haven't been that many murders of U.S. citizens at the hands of these radical Islamic murderers. But if it gets worse, we may not even be debating the wisdom of locking up crazies who plan killings of people whose only crime is to not support a medieval set of values. I for one do not want to live in a battleground with enemy terrorist soldiers all around me.

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I thought the general was sane. antiquie Jul 2015 #1
He IS sane, and he did NOT say what the headline says. elleng Jul 2015 #4
I did watch. antiquie Jul 2015 #9
I think you might have. elleng Jul 2015 #13
Truly disgusting. Can we throw lone wolf white people in there too? n/t Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #2
Not what he said. elleng Jul 2015 #5
That is NOT what he said. Please change the headline, DonViejo. elleng Jul 2015 #3
No. I used the published headline from the web site responsible for publishing the DonViejo Jul 2015 #6
As this is not LBN, it is not necessary to use the published headline here at DU. elleng Jul 2015 #8
yes this came through my facebook newsfeed with the same headline earlier! nt m-lekktor Jul 2015 #25
KICKING THIS. Raine1967 Jul 2015 #32
That IS what he said. Scootaloo Jul 2015 #11
Correct. He said it. closeupready Jul 2015 #23
What exactly did he say? I am not able to listen to audio on this computer... madinmaryland Jul 2015 #47
He didn't suggest internment camps at all, mad, elleng Jul 2015 #48
This is what really scares me about this comment... madinmaryland Jul 2015 #49
Man oh man libodem Jul 2015 #7
He didn't say it, but OP insists on using misleading headline. elleng Jul 2015 #10
Yes he did, starting at 59 seconds. closeupready Jul 2015 #22
I did libodem Jul 2015 #29
Good plan, Herr General! HassleCat Jul 2015 #12
Maybe that is what you would like to do, HassleCat, elleng Jul 2015 #14
Ok, then HassleCat Jul 2015 #16
Thanks elleng Jul 2015 #19
Listen at 59 seconds. He says it. closeupready Jul 2015 #20
What a disappointment. Words fail me. closeupready Jul 2015 #15
Please listen carefully to what he said, closeupready. elleng Jul 2015 #24
I know you from here, elleng, and I respect you. closeupready Jul 2015 #31
Serious question sub.theory Jul 2015 #36
Do you realize what the term 'free society' means? closeupready Jul 2015 #38
What do we do with the true believers? sub.theory Jul 2015 #40
You subscribe to a solution in search of a problem. closeupready Jul 2015 #41
Aw, why not? We all ready have pre-emptive war. snappyturtle Jul 2015 #45
I'd think Clark would know history better than that. hughee99 Jul 2015 #17
He KNOWS history, elleng Jul 2015 #26
He said it. Watch video beginning at 0:59 seconds. closeupready Jul 2015 #18
He was also talking about white and Christian terrorists in America, the Dylan Roof types: Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #21
Yes, Fred Sanders, and it worked, elleng Jul 2015 #27
How does he propose to identify lone wolf radical Muslims? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #28
He doesn't suggest how such might be done. elleng Jul 2015 #30
Don't think so - he is extremely smart, but he has often had a problem filtering his ideas before karynnj Jul 2015 #34
The title of the TPM article is misleading This is not what he is saying. Raine1967 Jul 2015 #33
I agree it's a bad idea but once they identify potentially violent radicals redstateblues Jul 2015 #35
I don't know. Right now identifying them and arresting them seems like the most viable option. Raine1967 Jul 2015 #37
Oh, I see Glitterati Jul 2015 #43
Do you really believe that I just said what you think I said when Raine1967 Jul 2015 #44
If they have broken a law, arrest them. ladyVet Jul 2015 #58
Thanks for doing the research, Raine, elleng Jul 2015 #42
Like that would ever happen here. Octafish Jul 2015 #39
I observe that nobody who claims Clark's DIDN'T say what he's accused of saying... brooklynite Jul 2015 #46
He's saying that radicalized young men who do not support our country but who aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2015 #50
Radical Christians have the same views about the same people. ladyVet Jul 2015 #59
Radical Christians aren't killing thousands and thousands of people throughout the world aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2015 #61
"Let's Throw Radical Muslims Into Internment Camps"?! Who said that? Sparkly Jul 2015 #51
"segregate them from the rest of the community" Android3.14 Jul 2015 #52
Thank you for posting. I knew something just wasn't right with Wesley considering his actions Purveyor Jul 2015 #53
No suprise Reter Jul 2015 #54
kick. Ilsa Jul 2015 #55
Isn't that what we were supposed to be doing with GITMO? Erose999 Jul 2015 #56
Yikes. marmar Jul 2015 #57
And there were people on this board in 2004, Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #60
They are in this very thread! Rex Jul 2015 #62
Operation Pastorius aint_no_life_nowhere Jul 2015 #63
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