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mvymvy

(309 posts)
20. Current System is Precarious
Thu Jul 23, 2015, 06:41 PM
Jul 2015

The precariousness of the current state-by-state winner-take-all system of awarding electoral votes is highlighted by the fact that a shift of a few thousand voters in one or two states would have elected the second-place candidate in 4 of the 15 presidential elections since World War II. Near misses are now frequently common. There have been 7 consecutive non-landslide presidential elections (1988, 1992, 1996, 2000, 2004, 2008, and 2012). 537 popular votes won Florida and the White House for Bush in 2000 despite Gore's lead of 537,179 (1,000 times more) popular votes nationwide. A shift of 60,000 voters in Ohio in 2004 would have defeated President Bush despite his nationwide lead of over 3 million votes. In 2012, a shift of 214,733 popular votes in four states would have elected Mitt Romney, despite President Obama’s nationwide lead of 4,966,945 votes.

After the 2012 election, Nate Silver calculated that "Mitt Romney may have had to win the national popular vote by three percentage points on Tuesday to be assured of winning the Electoral College."

Most Americans don't ultimately care whether their presidential candidate wins or loses in their state . . . they care whether he/she wins the White House. Voters want to know, that even if they were on the losing side, their vote actually was equally counted and mattered to their candidate. Most Americans think it would be wrong for the candidate with the most popular votes to lose. We don't allow this in any other election in our representative republic.

The National Popular Vote bill would guarantee the Presidency to the candidate who receives the most popular votes in all 50 states and DC.

The bill ensures that every vote, in every state, will matter equally in every presidential election.

The bill has been endorsed by organizations such as the League of Women Voters, Common Cause, FairVote, the ACLU, DEMOS, and the Brennan Center for Justice.

The bill has passed a total of 33 legislative chambers in 22 states.
The bill has been enacted by 11 jurisdictions possessing 165 electoral votes—61% of the 270 electoral votes necessary to activate it.

see http://www.NationalPopularVote.com

People forget that Perot's support had dwindled to a trickle by election time. Chemisse Jul 2015 #1
his support didn't "seem" to come from both sides, ericson00 Jul 2015 #3
Clinton did not win a majority in 1996 either. former9thward Jul 2015 #2
How many elections in the last 125 years have a different popular vote & electoral vote winner? ericson00 Jul 2015 #5
Intersting you use "125 years" former9thward Jul 2015 #7
did you read the post? ericson00 Jul 2015 #8
Current System is Precarious mvymvy Jul 2015 #20
pork-barrel spending will never allow a national popular vote ericson00 Jul 2015 #21
Only 7 Swing States Expected in 2016 mvymvy Jul 2015 #35
AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #11
GOP talking points are disruptive ericson00 Jul 2015 #12
Still sore about it, huh? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #23
Its not different than "I am not a scientist" ericson00 Jul 2015 #25
Republicans can shut their f'ing mouths ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #27
its amazing how on progressive blogs the myth is almost as popular ericson00 Jul 2015 #28
You hate election facts. former9thward Jul 2015 #32
also he did win a majority, a "relative majority", a synonym for plurality ericson00 Jul 2015 #37
Nice try but i don't buy that 1992 was a realigning election for a minute. craigmatic Jul 2015 #4
you sound like a Republican ericson00 Jul 2015 #6
1994? 1939 Jul 2015 #9
I'm talking about Presidential elections here ericson00 Jul 2015 #10
1800, 1828, 1932, 1980, 2008 those were realigning elections. If Clinton changed the electorate so craigmatic Jul 2015 #13
you can't win 'em all. And Gore was a media unsavvy gaffe machine. ericson00 Jul 2015 #14
The reason the republicans stopped winning so many electoral votes is because craigmatic Jul 2015 #15
Your definition of realignment leaves out 1968 ericson00 Jul 2015 #16
Most people don't consider 1968 realigning because policy didn't really change neither did craigmatic Jul 2015 #17
"most people?" ericson00 Jul 2015 #18
We'll just never agree on Clinton's importance. craigmatic Jul 2015 #22
Ruth Bader Ginsberg and Stephen Breyer ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #24
The electoral votes of CA, DE, MD, IL, ME, NH, VT, PA, MI, NJ, CT, ericson00 Jul 2015 #26
SCOTUS justices are the bare minimum of what we expect of a democratic president. craigmatic Jul 2015 #33
and so ought to be electoral votes. The guy who fought ericson00 Jul 2015 #34
EVs are important but so are coalitions and more importantly policy. craigmatic Jul 2015 #36
Also, if you, like me, are offended by the smear against the facts the Clintons, ericson00 Jul 2015 #19
If anyone has a WSJ account, ericson00 Jul 2015 #29
Rachel covered this tonight Gothmog Jul 2015 #30
I know! She was epic ericson00 Jul 2015 #31
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