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ljm2002

(10,751 posts)
3. Oh here we go again...
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 11:02 AM
Jul 2015

...funny how you always fail to mention Lloyd Blankfein, whose division at Goldman Sachs engineered the deception in the first place. And how you fail to mention that it was a conservative Greek government who engineered Greek's deception to gain entry to the EU.

You do not seem to grasp a basic tenet of finance, to wit: Any debt that CANNOT be paid, WILL NOT be paid. The IMF has already determined that Greek's debt CANNOT be paid. The austerity measures so far have decreased Greece's economy by 25% and have INCREASED the already unpayable debt, with untold suffering for the population, the vast majority of whom had nothing whatsoever to do with the original deception, but who are shouldering the burden nevertheless. So the current "solution" is to grant Greece another loan, all of which goes right into the coffers of the banks, NOT into programs to assist Greece and its people in any way; and which comes with strings attached, namely: more austerity measures guaranteed to decrease their economy even more, and selling off Greece's priceless heritage. This will result in more suffering by the Greek population, and the end result will be MORE debt, not less.

Yeah, that's the ticket.

Greece has lied to EU about its finances since the year 2000. DetlefK Jul 2015 #1
Those poor, lying Greeks. Have you no sense of compassion?? randome Jul 2015 #2
Oh here we go again... ljm2002 Jul 2015 #3
1. I have no idea why they chose austerity as a strategy. DetlefK Jul 2015 #6
Again: Any debt that CANNOT be paid... ljm2002 Jul 2015 #7
It was Greece that asked Goldman Sachs for help! DetlefK Jul 2015 #9
First idea: ljm2002 Jul 2015 #10
The exchange is pointless because you aren't willing to admit that the Greek people caused this mythology Jul 2015 #13
I don't believe for an INSTANT that the "Greek people" caused this... anymore than "I" caused OUR PassingFair Jul 2015 #16
. ctsnowman Jul 2015 #19
Because saying something was widespread means literally all? mythology Jul 2015 #27
You must have missed this part of my post: ljm2002 Jul 2015 #17
Second idea: Don't give Greece any f**king money. DetlefK Jul 2015 #15
And yet... ljm2002 Jul 2015 #18
So, which German bank do you work for? KamaAina Jul 2015 #24
The big shadowy one with an island lair shaped like a skull. DetlefK Jul 2015 #28
Oh, that's just too good! randome Jul 2015 #30
That doesn't narrow it down a whole lot. KamaAina Jul 2015 #32
Another principle of finance: cemaphonic Jul 2015 #22
Apparently we're supposed to either forget that part or assume that mythology Jul 2015 #12
You mean, "The Greek elites wanted a lifestyle... ljm2002 Jul 2015 #20
Greek pensions started earlier than other countries mythology Jul 2015 #26
I get it. ljm2002 Jul 2015 #29
Comparing nations to your friends is a great indication that you should be ignored Taitertots Jul 2015 #4
But the EU still has to work with the numbers Greece provides to them. DetlefK Jul 2015 #5
"Trust"? The pseudo-moralist position has no basis in reality. Taitertots Jul 2015 #8
Why help Greece in any way if you can't trust it? DetlefK Jul 2015 #14
Were the numbers falsified? ljm2002 Jul 2015 #21
Oh, they were falsified before Goldman Sachs ever entered the stage. DetlefK Jul 2015 #23
The Greeks upheld austerity when they refuse to reign in corruption and their tax evaders. kelliekat44 Jul 2015 #11
Unbalanced? Selfish? randome Jul 2015 #25
I'll throw in some naive questions/observations... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #31
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