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haele

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32. Couple reasons so far as I can see -
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 12:16 PM
Jul 2015

1. If the person identifies with "heritage" or some other such tribal organization, it's because they automatically view people who aren't with their tribe as threats and/or criminals, and those non-tribe members are animals who don't deserve any rights or due process.

2. If the person is uncertain about people other than him or herself, yet claims to be educated, liberal or a "live and let live" type, they would not tend to question profiling or bullying based on race - (or added for the sake of those who complain about the term "privileged", any other obvious characteristic that could reflect a different social status than "normal people&quot - because they don't want to admit they are afraid of people that aren't like them, and don't realize that because they are afraid of people who aren't like them, the automatic reaction is that those people are a threat to them, and thus somehow deserve whatever they get.

and finally 3. The average person don't understand that police, judges, supervisors, politicians, pastors - or any other persons who are in legal positions of power or authority - are people first, and the job second.
Positions of power are attractive not only to the helpful do-gooders who really like people and want to make the world a better place (the idealized "default" person for the above type of work), but to people who are control freaks, cowards, or otherwise looking for a position that they don't really have to work hard at for the reward they seek once they get the job.
People who are naturally not thinking about the make-up of other people doing the dirty work governing and policing will typically think of those people as "Andy Griffith", "Barney Miller" or "Judge Harry T. Stone (Night Court)" - the genial, fair minded grown-ups who are the type of people you could sit down and comfortably catch a ball game or have a beer with. This is especially true for your average middle class dude and dudette, doing their fairly stable 9-to-5, raising their 2.5 kids, and unconsciously living with the privilege of being considered "normal US citizens".
The legal authorities they typically identify as Andy, Barney, and Judge Harry aren't:
- dealing with the latest round of frustrating personal issues that can be transferred onto the next person they have to deal with on the job rather than taking care of, or
- either should have stayed home sick, hung-over or hopped up on steroids or some other substance instead of plopping themselves into a patrol car, on a court bench, or behind a government-provided desk, or
- are so full of themselves and their own sense of importance that any bit of resistance to their "awesomeness" needs to be met will overwhelming total force...
- and aren't employing a method of profiling in which potential criminality threat begins with "looks like most criminals around here (profile - race)", then goes to "acting impaired (profile - acts impaired or lost)", then goes to "doesn't belong (profile - appearance;"out of area" markers like license plates, accents, or style)", then ends up with "looks like a potential prey or someone who can be bullied (profile - gender or class)"

Unlike for "normal" people who don't stand out and meet enough of the above profile markers to have to interact with the law, to the general population of all the "others" Andy, Barney, and Judge Harry are fiction, and their reactions and interactions are as scripted as a politician's speech.
And to most people who aren't prone to thinking much about almost everything that crosses their path, if they didn't experience it, it doesn't exist. Bringing up some other group of people's problems in comparison to what they would experience in pretty much the same situation does not sync up in their brains, causes a conflict which causes a discomfort, which can be perceived as a direct attack, even if it is simply a legitimate statement of a problem for that other group of people.
Frankly; because White people (and I include myself here) don't usually start at the beginning of the profile queue, most don't understand how race tends to be the primary method of all legal profiling, because they don't experience it.
White people start getting profiled at the second level, not the first. So unless there's a personal connection to something that pisses off or attracts the police, prosecutor, judge, social worker, or any other person in authority, we don't get noticed unless we do something that actually has the potential to be of legal concern.

We don't get pulled over for DWB because the automatic assumption due to the skin color is that we belong to the Crips or the Bloods - or that we stole the car; we white people get pulled over for no apparent reason when we look like out-of-towners or slacker hippy dope fiends, or because the cop was bored or needed to make his/her ticket quota and we committed a minor traffic violation.

Just my two cents.

Haele

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Because, let's face it, we grow up in a culture afloat in racism. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #1
Yes!! gollygee Jul 2015 #2
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Why can't the cops treat blacks EXACTLY like they treat whites? Ken Burch Jul 2015 #14
Because the responses aren't exactly the same. Igel Jul 2015 #25
This was an excellent use of objective reason tymorial Jul 2015 #26
I was with you until you said "African Americans kill more" brush Jul 2015 #28
"Lack of opportunity, poverty, begets crime." I don't think this is an immutable law. While jonno99 Jul 2015 #29
Okay, family structure is part of it, but lack of opportunity and poverty . . . brush Jul 2015 #31
Seems like a chicken-and-egg question. Who are those who move from jonno99 Jul 2015 #35
What about Hispanics? Noid Jul 2015 #43
So what is your point? nt brush Jul 2015 #56
wish I knew how to create a link, but this former racist explains it pretty much Solomon Jul 2015 #6
Not just blacks. jury duty in GOP area. dembotoz Jul 2015 #10
The most direct answer is conditioning via white supremacy... MrScorpio Jul 2015 #13
Well, Fox News and hate speeches don't help. mmonk Jul 2015 #15
Because of the investor class. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #16
Equal parts anti-hero worship and racism aikoaiko Jul 2015 #17
Where in the world do you live? cwydro Jul 2015 #18
Parts of this country are close to 100% white. Vermont, for example (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #23
Yes, I think there are more totally white areas up north or out west, but cwydro Jul 2015 #24
Northern Arkansas. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #27
Wow, I didn't know that. cwydro Jul 2015 #57
Eastern Tennessee Nevernose Jul 2015 #34
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statistically he is completely right. while your own experience may differ La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #42
I have this same perspective Egnever Jul 2015 #55
Outside of this site, I don't know any whites that defend our In-Justice system especially cops. 2banon Jul 2015 #20
just look at the comments section of any newspaper article on cops/racist shooting or La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #45
Should have said "in person", people in my community, music and art circles. 2banon Jul 2015 #47
they don't exist in my friends circle either, but that cos i screen for racism La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #48
if it makes you feel better, restorefreedom Jul 2015 #22
Great post B_Mann Jul 2015 #30
Couple reasons so far as I can see - haele Jul 2015 #32
Probably because there are so many whites who don't live around black people. NYT recently reports ancianita Jul 2015 #33
They're prejudiced rock Jul 2015 #36
They are conditioned by our racist culture to fear black people, to see them as a threat YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #38
people tend to generalize from their personal experience La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #40
Great points. YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #41
thanks. i study and teach classes on prejudice and racism La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #44
LEO fondlers JonLP24 Jul 2015 #46
Because we don't have bad experiences treestar Jul 2015 #50
Because of a heavy investment in the notion that "the system works" Scootaloo Jul 2015 #51
Try to form an opinion on each reported incident independently and as I see them liberal N proud Jul 2015 #52
Who are you hanging around with? JimDandy Jul 2015 #53
Cop shows on TV, especially "Cops," overwhelmingly show POC as perps Warpy Jul 2015 #54
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