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haele

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40. White liberal here, too...but I am not afraid or feel guilty to admit there's a "tribal identity"
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 02:17 PM
Jul 2015

that can become a door rather than a window.

Being told there's "white privilege" can go several different ways.

It's either going to be a wedge, or it can be a "come together" realization.

Why is there white privilege should be the question? - Because there is. This country was built on white privilege, whether a person who is primarily Caucasian in background cares to take advantage of it or not.

See, the truth is, the very first thing that people notice will about you when they see you, even from a distance, or in dim light, is the color of your skin. Above gender, above age. I can't escape it. People know I'm white. You can't escape it, not from the distance, not due to the light.
Race is the first thing people are going to react to when they see you.
Example - it's evening and I'm visiting a friend in a middle class neighborhood I've never been to before and caught a glimpse of a black man in the next-door yard walking up to a window of the house with tools in his hand.
The automatic question that comes to mind with a lot of people, no matter the race of the observer - this is a nice neighborhood - does he live there, and is fixing the window screen - or is he a burglar?
I will admit thinking that, and then immediately banishing it as a stupid thought. Does that make me racist, or a product of the society in which we live?
My real guilty self-question would be - would I think the same if I caught a glimpse of a white man, or an Asian man, or a Hispanic man in the same situation?

What it comes to is that white people, or those who "pass" don't have to worry that the color of their skin is going to work against them when dealing with the law, or in other social interactions. They default to "normal" in Media. They're the target audience. They aren't going to be pulled over for DWB in a nice car, they're going to have to do more than that to get the attention of the cops.
While they might get shot, or targeted, their race won't be the prime reason they were noticed in the first place.
It is a privilege - not to have assumptions made against you because of your race. Well, except assumptions made against you from people who are actually being targeted initially because of their race...

And it's a bitter truth for a lot of white people to swallow. They want to be "better than that". I understand, I want to be better than a thoughtlessly reactive "default to racist" white "dude".
Blame society. Blame history. Blame whatever. But it's still a privilege granted us as light-skinned people solely due to our skin tone. So why don't we all just accept it - and move to work on the solution to it?

Solutions that include a better sense, more inclusive definition of community rather than tribe. Better training for police. Better adherence to the laws that protect the rights of all citizens.
Pointing out assholes that are trying to build a wall of words that they've co-opted and twisted to hide their greed, fear and guilt behind.

And we can still do all of this while working on the privileges of class and gender too. Inclusiveness shouldn't diminish.
Nothing in the world says we can't be inclusive - that we can't both walk and chew gum, is there?

Haele

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Nothing wrong with being "angry" about racist cops, Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #1
but some white people get more pissed off about the phrase "white privilege" or geek tragedy Jul 2015 #5
which is probably why it's a good idea to follow President Obama's example and avoid the term. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #6
but isn't a cruel irony that the first black president has to watch his words and watch geek tragedy Jul 2015 #7
In this case, I don't think so. Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #10
white privlege is a state of mind and fact heaven05 Jul 2015 #19
So do you think President Obama has made a mistake by never uttering the phrase "white privilege" Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #20
I know how free heaven05 Jul 2015 #23
You're welcome! (nt) Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #24
I cringe when he walked back calling the arrest of a black professor at his own home "stupid' Scootaloo Jul 2015 #29
not only a cop, but a white cop. black president criticizing a white cop geek tragedy Jul 2015 #31
no shit. some white people believe discussing noiretextatique Jul 2015 #38
^^^This.....nt artislife Jul 2015 #13
Incredibly powerful ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #2
"Let me not be silent in the face of uncomfortable truths" sheshe2 Jul 2015 #3
GREAT point. calimary Jul 2015 #4
Okay sheshe2 Jul 2015 #12
Well, the only point I was trying to make, in how-ever clumsy a fashion, was that calimary Jul 2015 #21
Actually, the size of the photo is right. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #22
... ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #15
Going to read the link now. Thanks for posting. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #8
It's amazing freshwest. sheshe2 Jul 2015 #11
K&R Solly Mack Jul 2015 #9
K&R brer cat Jul 2015 #14
When I try to understand the POC viewpoint chenildieu Jul 2015 #16
What a great response. YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #33
K & R !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #17
profound and so very, very true heaven05 Jul 2015 #18
What happened to Bravenak? nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #25
got some OP's and responses hidden in quick succession heaven05 Jul 2015 #26
Assholes awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #32
yep heaven05 Jul 2015 #35
frankly, i don't get the problem with sanders noiretextatique Jul 2015 #39
It is shocking to find that kind of push-back here, though. MADem Jul 2015 #27
"The entire discussion of race in America centers around the protection of White feelings" sufrommich Jul 2015 #28
Yup ismnotwasm Jul 2015 #30
Very powerful and thoughtful YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #34
Sorry, I find this sort of thing very divisive and disingenuous. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #36
White liberal here, too...but I am not afraid or feel guilty to admit there's a "tribal identity" haele Jul 2015 #40
I agree with just about everything you wrote. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #41
And that dear friends is called white fragility. craigmatic Jul 2015 #37
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