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jberryhill

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35. Did she leave him dead or not?
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 03:23 PM
Jul 2015

"ask for the police first, to get advice on what the law says"

That's not what the police do.

You have no, none, zero, zip, obligation or responsibility to call 911 if some person unrelated to you is in distress. The claim here is that he was in distress and specifically said he did not want 911 called.

But if someone over whom I have no legal responsibility is dying of a heart attack, I can stand there, take selfies, and send them to all my friends if I want to, and then just walk away. Now, I wouldn't do that, but as I've often said - what's legally required of someone is a poor guide to morality.

"And if she thought he died so soon after becoming unresponsive, I would think she would still have a legal obligation, not to mention an ethical one, to report the death."

Well you had charged her with manslaughter, as if she had caused his death.

Every version of this story is so horribly written, it is difficult to figure out the sequence of events. It's not clear to me whose car they were in, either.

But, in general, if someone (to whom you have no legal responsibility) drops dead in your presence, you are free to carry about your business in whatever manner you see fit.

before you can say 'no foul play'

I'm sure there will be an investigation. Again, I was responding to you claiming she should be charged with manslaughter. The way things work is that you need evidence of a crime before charging someone with one. Not the other way around.

I did not say "no foul play". I said, taking the story as true (pace the horrible writing about the sequence of events) on the facts given, I don't see a crime. Sure, one might come up as the details become clearer. But you don't get "manslaughter" out of walking away from someone who is in some sort of terminal distress.

(on edit: states vary wildly on failing to report an actual death or location of a corpse. It just recently because a misdemeanor in Michigan, for example: http://archive.freep.com/article/20130102/NEWS06/130102065/Failure-to-report-dead-body-becomes-misdemeanor-under-new-Michigan-law - "Failure to report dead body now a misdemeanor under new Michigan law" )

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Really weird. A curiosity. nt PufPuf23 Jul 2015 #1
Curiouser and curiouser... n/t Little Tich Jul 2015 #2
Wow - truth is indeed BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #3
Coming soon to SyFy: Alien Gun-nado! nt pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #4
Did I mention........... Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #5
heheh blm Jul 2015 #32
I thought so at first - season one was a very hard act to follow- but I am starting to get into it. djean111 Jul 2015 #6
Have to agree about the most BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #40
An underwater car? Tanuki Jul 2015 #7
Yep, you can get a snorkel for lots of SUVs. jeff47 Jul 2015 #19
Very common in flood prone areas jberryhill Jul 2015 #26
So the fiancee is going with the "I'm a moron" defense muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #8
Was he dead when she left? jberryhill Jul 2015 #27
If not, then she might be looking at manslaughter muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #28
Let's take those alleged facts as true jberryhill Jul 2015 #29
That doesn't say he talked after he was dead muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #34
Did she leave him dead or not? jberryhill Jul 2015 #35
No, it's the police who have already said 'no foul play' despite not having a cause of death muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #37
"Failure to report a death seems to be illegal in most places, to me." jberryhill Jul 2015 #38
Take a look a this report jberryhill Jul 2015 #36
Not Florida Man strikes again. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 #9
I'm betting he has drug cartel or other organized crime links Amishman Jul 2015 #10
if he was connected to any of that stuff... Javaman Jul 2015 #18
I think so, too Warpy Jul 2015 #30
Aliens among us! Baclava Jul 2015 #11
Doing his best to keep guns off the streets of America. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #12
I'm betting on category: nutcase trustafarian n2doc Jul 2015 #13
no trust fund ... mother didn't know where he got the money Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #23
We shall see if that proves correct n/t n2doc Jul 2015 #33
He was an upper middle class kid from Westchester Warpy Jul 2015 #31
What a strange story malaise Jul 2015 #14
DANGER ZONE!!!!!! Brickbat Jul 2015 #15
That's just weird. Calista241 Jul 2015 #16
The sheer volume argues against that theory metalbot Jul 2015 #24
Eh, you're probably right. I just know several gun guys, and i just can't fathom that level of Calista241 Jul 2015 #25
Great, even Martians can easily get guns. Darb Jul 2015 #17
'When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.' mmonk Jul 2015 #20
Wow Glassunion Jul 2015 #21
Maybe a gun-runner in the California legislature? Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #22
Must be where the gov keeps all the ammo nuts claim it was buying up, causing a shortage. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #39
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