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jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
38. "Failure to report a death seems to be illegal in most places, to me."
Fri Jul 24, 2015, 04:28 PM
Jul 2015

Whether something is illegal is not up to you, it's up to the statutes. As I had pointed out above, it only became a misdemeanor in Michigan two years ago, and I've been looking for a corresponding CA statute. I have not, as yet, found one.

But even that brings me back to whether he was dead when she left him. Even if there is a CA misdemeanor of failing to report a death, he'd have to be dead when she left him. No version of the story I have read is unambiguous on that point. If someone is in physical distress and says they don't want 911 called, they don't want to go to the hospital, just leave me alone, and you leave, then you haven't even "failed to report a death" because one hasn't happened yet.

And by having "legal responsibility", I mean under any condition that might impose one, not some formal arrangement. For example, you have responsibilities to passengers in your car, guests in your home, etc., that inhere under those sorts of circumstances.

But, again, absent someone coming up with a CA statute on failure to report a death, then it is not a matter of opinion whether it "seems to be illegal" or seems that way to anyone in particular. There may be one, and there are in many states, but I have not found one in California.

Another problem here is that if she believed he was an alien lizard being, then even if she thought he was dead, that's not the death of a person. Perhaps she might have known of the death of an alien lizard being, and would have otherwise reported it if she believed he was human.

But, again, (a) I can't find a California statute on point (there's a whole lot about reporting child abuse, injury and death) and (b) I'm not clear on what was his condition when she left him.

There is a general bias - in civilized countries - to not impose criminal penalties for "failure to act" absent specific kinds of legal relationships. Criminal law generally looks at what people affirmatively do, and not things that they don't do but "should".

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Really weird. A curiosity. nt PufPuf23 Jul 2015 #1
Curiouser and curiouser... n/t Little Tich Jul 2015 #2
Wow - truth is indeed BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #3
Coming soon to SyFy: Alien Gun-nado! nt pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #4
Did I mention........... Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #5
heheh blm Jul 2015 #32
I thought so at first - season one was a very hard act to follow- but I am starting to get into it. djean111 Jul 2015 #6
Have to agree about the most BlueMTexpat Jul 2015 #40
An underwater car? Tanuki Jul 2015 #7
Yep, you can get a snorkel for lots of SUVs. jeff47 Jul 2015 #19
Very common in flood prone areas jberryhill Jul 2015 #26
So the fiancee is going with the "I'm a moron" defense muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #8
Was he dead when she left? jberryhill Jul 2015 #27
If not, then she might be looking at manslaughter muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #28
Let's take those alleged facts as true jberryhill Jul 2015 #29
That doesn't say he talked after he was dead muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #34
Did she leave him dead or not? jberryhill Jul 2015 #35
No, it's the police who have already said 'no foul play' despite not having a cause of death muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #37
"Failure to report a death seems to be illegal in most places, to me." jberryhill Jul 2015 #38
Take a look a this report jberryhill Jul 2015 #36
Not Florida Man strikes again. nt Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2015 #9
I'm betting he has drug cartel or other organized crime links Amishman Jul 2015 #10
if he was connected to any of that stuff... Javaman Jul 2015 #18
I think so, too Warpy Jul 2015 #30
Aliens among us! Baclava Jul 2015 #11
Doing his best to keep guns off the streets of America. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #12
I'm betting on category: nutcase trustafarian n2doc Jul 2015 #13
no trust fund ... mother didn't know where he got the money Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #23
We shall see if that proves correct n/t n2doc Jul 2015 #33
He was an upper middle class kid from Westchester Warpy Jul 2015 #31
What a strange story malaise Jul 2015 #14
DANGER ZONE!!!!!! Brickbat Jul 2015 #15
That's just weird. Calista241 Jul 2015 #16
The sheer volume argues against that theory metalbot Jul 2015 #24
Eh, you're probably right. I just know several gun guys, and i just can't fathom that level of Calista241 Jul 2015 #25
Great, even Martians can easily get guns. Darb Jul 2015 #17
'When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro.' mmonk Jul 2015 #20
Wow Glassunion Jul 2015 #21
Maybe a gun-runner in the California legislature? Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #22
Must be where the gov keeps all the ammo nuts claim it was buying up, causing a shortage. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #39
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