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LeftishBrit

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93. I have always thought that Counterpunch is an unselectively anti-establishment site that includes

Sat Jul 25, 2015, 02:54 AM

Jul 2015

both left-wing and far-right sources if they are against current leaders and policies.

Much of the establishment does need to be opposed; but not by something even worse.

Certainly, some of the writers are frankly RW, e.g. Paul Craig Roberts and William Lind. Related to this, it has contained lots of global warming denial. It has also included some frankly anti-Semitic stuff by the likes of the Christisons and Gilad Atzmon. What is perhaps less well known is that it has included articles that are quite vile about Bosnian Muslims, and very dismissive of the Srebrenica massacre.

I would not have a blanket rule of 'not linking to Counterpunch' in that I would not object to a link to an article by Chomsky just because it was posted on Counterpunch. However, if an article or its author is right-wing and/or racist, it doesn't belong on DU. Oh, and Paul Craig Roberts is a scumbag.

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Don't link to COUNTERPUNCH. It's a far-RW racist trojan horse (No Click On It) [View all] uhnope Jul 2015 OP

all the stuff on that site ericson00 Jul 2015 #1

No, thank you. I don't need a censor. I can make up my own mind. Octafish Jul 2015 #2

it's not a hard concept. Don't link to FOX, STORMFRONT either uhnope Jul 2015 #4

You should read more. CounterPunch gives you news and info you won't find anywhere else. Octafish Jul 2015 #8

What can we possibly learn from white supremacist authors? YoungDemCA Jul 2015 #25

+1 bravenak Jul 2015 #37

so Michael Hudson is a "white supremacist author"? n/t JustinL Jul 2015 #46

Please link to Michael Hudsons white supremacist writings. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #56

Or learning who thinks that kind of ugly, racist shit is worthwhile....? nt MADem Jul 2015 #102

Michael Hudson is topnotch Oilwellian Jul 2015 #34

"I've always admired his work and he's not even a white supremacist"? Ken Burch Jul 2015 #79

Errr.... Oilwellian Jul 2015 #91

No, the OP says that there are way more wingnut/racist pigs posting there than there are lefties. MADem Jul 2015 #103

Counterpunch - How crypto-fascists and white nationalists are infiltrating progressive circles kfreed Dec 2015 #158

Liars and Paid Liars both stink up the place. Octafish Dec 2015 #159

Yup, you sure do love Paul Craig Roberts, don't ya? zappaman Jul 2015 #12

I like what he wrote about Don Siegelman and the ''corrupt Bush administration.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #15

Thanks for confirming! zappaman Jul 2015 #16

I haven't confirmed shit for you. Nor have you shown where you posted once in support of Siegelman. Octafish Jul 2015 #18

Thanks for the re-confirmation, but it wasn't necessary. zappaman Jul 2015 #20

More emoticons. Octafish Jul 2015 #21

+ 1000 bahrbearian Jul 2015 #106

And if making up your mind is predicated in part on right wing and racist editorials LanternWaste Jul 2015 #148

No, just telling me to shut up is enough for me to see what kind of ''DUer'' posts, LanternWaste. Octafish Jul 2015 #149

K and R--and thanks riversedge Jul 2015 #3

Who would've guessed a Putin and Maduro apologia rag would be home to racist pieces of shit? NuclearDem Jul 2015 #5

Excuse me, but Maduro has nothing in common with Putin and is not racist. Ken Burch Jul 2015 #80

I wish I could rec your post a hundred times! herding cats Jul 2015 #6

VDare? Ugh! And PCR is an Infowars, JBS type. And unrepentant father of Reaganomics. Double Ugh. n/t freshwest Jul 2015 #7

And he's being promoted, right in this thread...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #39

I know! Everytime I see it, I post this image: freshwest Jul 2015 #42

There are DUers who are big fans of Paul Craig Roberts and Israel Shamir... SidDithers Jul 2015 #9

Posters who insist on linking to that shit after they've been told about it should be banned. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #10

Calling me an asshole again? Octafish Jul 2015 #17

You must be confused, the word "asshole" appears nowhere in my post. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #19

Never said it did. You must be used to putting words in other people's mouths. Octafish Jul 2015 #23

Propaganda technique. zappaman Jul 2015 #24

Coming from someone who literally just put the word "asshole" in my mouth NuclearDem Jul 2015 #26

Getting an asshole in your mouth is no fun jberryhill Jul 2015 #36

Well, among consenting adults, etc... nt COLGATE4 Jul 2015 #127

That's fine jberryhill Jul 2015 #144

You should delete this post leftynyc Jul 2015 #49

Absolutely--ND wins, OF comes off looking really bad, and JBerry gets a "Chuckles" prize for the MADem Jul 2015 #104

Sigh. REP Jul 2015 #50

I agree...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #40

maybe people calling for people G_j Jul 2015 #108

It's about time something was done about it. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #109

So hard to keep up with all the places we aren't supposed to look at or post n2doc Jul 2015 #11

Is there some reason you're interested in linking to a front for white supremacists? NuclearDem Jul 2015 #14

I love these threads MFrohike Jul 2015 #13

It makes one wonder why arikara Jul 2015 #29

Pretty much MFrohike Jul 2015 #31

Ramen to that! dixiegrrrrl Jul 2015 #118

This!^^^^^^10000! 2banon Jul 2015 #66

There is no wonder about it, everyone here has noticed that too and yet the narrative goes on. Rex Jul 2015 #81

I, for one, don't like being nanny'd in any way..... grasswire Jul 2015 #112

For me it is their obvious double standard they pretend doesn't exist. Rex Jul 2015 #121

+1000 G_j Jul 2015 #110

I have not seen this graphic elsewhere. JEB Jul 2015 #22

Where did that come from? Egnever Jul 2015 #41

Probably because it's complete BS? Recursion Jul 2015 #43

LOL! Ouch that gave them a sadz! Rex Jul 2015 #83

Censorship Posts... This Early ??? - Wow !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #27

Pointing out white supremacists is censorship? Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #35

Jeff Blankfort is NO White Supremacist! His name does belong on that list and should be 2banon Jul 2015 #68

Here are some alternative viewpoints on Mr. Blankfort TacoD Jul 2015 #88

Well you know how the Outraged here are always that way about others that are outraged! Rex Jul 2015 #84

I lulz'ed. KG Jul 2015 #28

BTW: The ''meldungen-aus-dem-exil.noblogs.org'' in the OP seems racist against Palestinians. Octafish Jul 2015 #30

Love Me, I'm A Liberal is a satirical song, Octafish. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #32

No nice try about it. Author smeared CounterPunch. Octafish Jul 2015 #38

You obviously missed the "parody/satire" tag on the website. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #54

Nice catch LittleBlue Jul 2015 #45

Love Me, I'm a Liberal is satire. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #52

An interesting contradiction in the linked article Jim Lane Jul 2015 #33

Isn't Howard Zinn dead? LittleBlue Jul 2015 #44

Yes, PCR is a white supremacist... Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #71

So, I should stop thinking for myself because one person tells me to. MattSh Jul 2015 #92

What? Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #96

To what 'one person' do you refer Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #136

Paul Craig Roberts Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #138

I see. Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #139

As I posted up thread. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #140

Yes, I can see an association between Mr. Roberts and the ideology Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #142

He helped fucking start VDARE Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #143

I observe. Ghost Dog Jul 2015 #157

Lists! Yes! Please add the New York Times to our Index Librorum Prohibitorum. Karmadillo Jul 2015 #47

Why are you guys so insistent on being able to link to white supremacists here? NuclearDem Jul 2015 #53

I like reading Counterpunch. Of course I choose the articles. delrem Jul 2015 #48

counterPUNCH. noam chomsky....Links............LOL Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #51

This is always a sad attempt to get people like Octa banned from this site Rex Jul 2015 #129

Authoritarians need to reaffirm for themselves occasionally their followers are still active and polly7 Jul 2015 #135

Spent some time reading articles there yesterday. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #55

Paul Craig Roberts, the first name on that list, is an anti-immigration white supremacist... SidDithers Jul 2015 #60

Other than not reading the author of this pieces tripe again. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #61

Counterpunch is definitely anti-Semitic and anti-American geek tragedy Jul 2015 #57

Anti-American? ROFL Lydia Leftcoast Jul 2015 #141

Uh, they missed some authors, Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #58

Ooops, forgot to rec this thread... SidDithers Jul 2015 #59

Oops. I forget to rec it too! bvar22 Jul 2015 #147

Wow , that's disturbing news indeed..... HickFromTheTick Jul 2015 #62

Welcome to DU... SidDithers Jul 2015 #70

Please Remove Jeff Blankfort's name. He is Far Left, he's not RW. I know him personally. 2banon Jul 2015 #63

It doesn't take a PhD in Political Science... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #64

The further you go from my perfectly centered views, delrem Jul 2015 #72

Todd is a dolt who couldn't complete college. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #73

Now now, watch your language!! delrem Jul 2015 #74

Please don't think I think that Beltway Wisdom is the center and that deviating from it makes ... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2015 #75

I don't think that!!! delrem Jul 2015 #76

Noam Chomsky and Amy Goodman ozone_man Jul 2015 #65

That's why they're listed under "left/progressive" in that chart. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #67

Yah, under a blazing title: delrem Jul 2015 #77

think before you post uhnope Jul 2015 #69

Most people can filter out what they find meaningful. ozone_man Jul 2015 #145

I'll make a deal. bvar22 Jul 2015 #78

Putin certainly seems to think Russians need a net nanny. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #82

We have different opinions about what is happening in the Ukraine. bvar22 Jul 2015 #85

Counterpunch has anti-Russian articles like Fox has liberal commentators. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #87

BS bvar22 Jul 2015 #90

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2015 #86

Scarey!!! polly7 Jul 2015 #89

Better yet, bvar22 Jul 2015 #97

Oooooohhhh .... that would be awesome! polly7 Jul 2015 #111

I have always thought that Counterpunch is an unselectively anti-establishment site that includes LeftishBrit Jul 2015 #93

Some racist articles on this week's sidebar eridani Jul 2015 #94

Israel Shamir is a disgusting anti-Semite, and was used as a source on this site to defend Assange. msanthrope Jul 2015 #95

Assange needs no defense. bvar22 Jul 2015 #98

Why did Assange feel the need then to have his employee write such a disgusting defense? msanthrope Jul 2015 #100

How do you know that Assange "felt the need to have his employee write..." bvar22 Jul 2015 #113

Dude.....this guy works for Assange....wouldn't Assange have fired him msanthrope Jul 2015 #119

NOw you are posting hypotheticals, and facts not in evidence. bvar22 Jul 2015 #122

what fact is not in evidence? what back is not in evidence? N t msanthrope Jul 2015 #125

Very few publications or organizations Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #99

It's a Paulbotter's delight, is what it is! nt MADem Jul 2015 #101

Counterpunch is a mix. You're wrong about 95perc leveymg Jul 2015 #105

Who the hell are those links JonLP24 Jul 2015 #107

epic fail for mendungen-aus-dem-exile blog... grasswire Jul 2015 #114

This just in: Howard Zinn is still dead. Efilroft Sul Jul 2015 #115

There are left/progressive authors on the site. tammywammy Jul 2015 #116

Let them link to those homophobic or anti-semetic posts, bvar22 Jul 2015 #123

It doesn't always work tammywammy Jul 2015 #124

+1 zappaman Jul 2015 #128

Are his views about the illegal imprisonment anti-semetic? bvar22 Jul 2015 #130

Oh obviously, not wanting Paul Craig Roberts posted on DU means I just looooove Karl Rove. tammywammy Jul 2015 #131

Just stick to the oligarch approved white bread corporate media. JEB Jul 2015 #117

Russia has net nannies arikara Jul 2015 #120

One of the best. Always thought provoking. JEB Jul 2015 #137

You are Wrong Gothmog Jul 2015 #126

Shouldn't it depend on who wrote the article edhopper Jul 2015 #132

Kickin' Faux pas Jul 2015 #133

Calling out white supremacist websites is just like the Holocaust and is anti-Democraticy! Major Nikon Jul 2015 #134

And book burning! Don't forget book burning! NuclearDem Jul 2015 #146

Because book burning is so funny it's satire or something. Octafish Jul 2015 #150

What exactly are you on about this time? NuclearDem Jul 2015 #154

Oh, linking to articles by left wing authors is legit. Warpy Jul 2015 #151

Presumably, if Stormfront published far Left Progressives, then linking to Stormfront.... shira Jul 2015 #152

To some it seems like as long as that specific article isn't racist/anti-Semitic/homophobic tammywammy Jul 2015 #155

The people crying censorship don't seem to understand how these sites make money. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #156

+1. Looks like CP took the place of the crap that used to get posted here from wsws. Tarheel_Dem Jul 2015 #153