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edhopper

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51. Good post

Sat Jul 25, 2015, 08:50 AM

Jul 2015

I personally find the Manet less sexually provocative than the Titian or Botticelli to my modern sensibilities.
Recently viewing Sargent's Madame X again, it is strange to see what made public scandals in times past, Khardashians not withstanding.

Artistically, Manet, though thought of as the Father of Impressionism, is much closer in style to the Academic painters of the day than Monet, Renoir, Degas etc... or even Turner for that matter.

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Nudity, Art and Scandal in Paris! “Olympia” by Edouard Manet [View all] CTyankee Jul 2015 OP

Fascinating post, as always, my dear CTyankee! CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #1

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Really amazing post Hydra Jul 2015 #15

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The best artists are usually rebels Hydra Jul 2015 #73

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Oh, yes...that's it... CTyankee Jul 2015 #59

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