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davidn3600

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32. It's typical of larger nations
Sat Jul 25, 2015, 05:14 PM
Jul 2015

When you look at history, larger countries have increasing problems maintaining unity.

Many of the socialistic-thinking countries in Europe are rather small, have stronger cultural bonds, and have stronger central governments. So those socialistic policies tend to be more successful there. The US by design has a weak federal system and a melting pot of various cultures. It's actually kind of amazing we have only had 1 civil war. Chances are there will be more in the future if our economy goes into the toilet. Our economics has largely been strong and stable enough throughout our history to maintain unity and keep people happy enough. But if the economy completely blows apart and people start starving, things can unravel very quickly.

There is the reality that perhaps a reason we have so much deadlock in Washington is some of our laws being passed on the federal level do is not being viewed that they benefit everyone equally. Gun control for example....the large urban centers see it as a way to reduce the crime rate and mass shootings. The rural areas though see it as the federal government trying to take their Constitutional rights. These are two fundamentally different beliefs that conflict. And that conflict results in deadlock. Lots of issues are the same way. And it's a reason Washington never seems to be able to get anything done anymore.

A person who grew up in rural parts of the south did not live the same life as a person who grew up in the center of Philadelphia. These two people have different life experiences. The bigger and more diverse the country gets, the harder it will be to get everyone to agree. No two people in this country think exactly the same way.

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Good. When do they leave? nt Xipe Totec Jul 2015 #1
Good question meow2u3 Jul 2015 #3
Maybe some of the states can split in two. passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #33
We need a constutional amendment that allows states to secede. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #2
It's actually not such a bad idea: Flying Squirrel Jul 2015 #20
If we had that amendment, we could shut up right wing Southerners for good. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #23
Yay! A legitimate voice is brave enough to speak... WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2015 #4
Hard to implement. I'm afraid he is right, though. AlinPA Jul 2015 #5
It works for me. I am beyond tired of the crazies; they need to have their Nay Jul 2015 #6
I'm one who believes eventually we'll break apart. KentuckyWoman Jul 2015 #7
So the likely result would be an east coast America, A West Coast America n2doc Jul 2015 #8
We Minnesotans would join up with Canada, I think. hifiguy Jul 2015 #12
At least northern Minnesota, Twin Cities, Duluth... n2doc Jul 2015 #24
What makes you think they'd have you? BillZBubb Jul 2015 #25
He wouldn't have beaten Wellstone, had Wellstone lived. hifiguy Jul 2015 #26
We also elected Paul Wellstone and Al Franken and Keith Ellison. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #27
I know, I was just having a bit of fun. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #29
Invade with what? jeff47 Jul 2015 #13
There are a lot of military bases in the South and west n2doc Jul 2015 #15
I'm not talking about money just for weapons. jeff47 Jul 2015 #17
That's not how they would see it n2doc Jul 2015 #22
More red states economies DEPEND on federal funds to exist, without federal funds they fall apart... uponit7771 Jul 2015 #18
Got me to thinking... WiffenPoof Jul 2015 #9
I think the division is urban v. rural, rather than state by state. snot Jul 2015 #10
I think there's a lot too what you said. Marr Jul 2015 #14
A bit like the India - Pakistan separation?...nt dougolat Jul 2015 #21
Federal government through USDA kept many blacks and Hispanics and Native Americans from farming uponit7771 Jul 2015 #19
They cannot leave soon enough. hifiguy Jul 2015 #11
They've always needed to be dragged (kicking and screaming) into the future. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #16
One Law For All. Baitball Blogger Jul 2015 #28
No no more of 2 nations in one country. That's what justified segregation HereSince1628 Jul 2015 #30
Scary! IphengeniaBlumgarten Jul 2015 #31
It's typical of larger nations davidn3600 Jul 2015 #32
Well, at least he has the gun fanciers pegged, except for roughly 2% who aren't like that (just Hoyt Jul 2015 #34
There are actually 3 Americas Hydra Jul 2015 #35
Would individuals who are liberal but stuck in a red state be bought out - so they can move!! patricia92243 Jul 2015 #36
If North/South split, how to get the rightwingers to move South daredtowork Jul 2015 #37
A bipolar nation WMDemocract Jul 2015 #38
And their is a third nation...the powerful elite. zeemike Jul 2015 #39
Illegal Immigration lobodons Jul 2015 #40
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