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Doctor_J

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5. What bizarre pruning of the facts

Reply to Recursion (Original post)

Sat Jul 25, 2015, 10:28 PM

Jul 2015

As noted below, their gun ownership is largely due to their well regulated militia.

As for the healthcare, 1. Everyone pays the same amount. 2. The companies are forbidden from making a profit on the basic insurance (unlike mine, which reaped record profits last year). 3. The annual deductible is $184 (unlike, say, mine, which is $8350). 4. Their cost is capped at 8% of their income, unlike mine, which is 25% for new people at my employer.

Your post will undoubtedly get many recs, but it's largely bullshit.

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Let's look at a country with high gun ownership, privatized healthcare, and no minimum wage. [View all] Recursion Jul 2015 OP

Numbers 1 and 5 are the most critical differences. hifiguy Jul 2015 #1

K&R +1 newblewtoo Jul 2015 #2

When discussing Swiss gun ownership Swiss conscription must be taken into account. Electric Monk Jul 2015 #3

^^THIS^^ nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2015 #4

That's what I understood as part of the requirement of Swiss gun ownersip London Lover Man Jul 2015 #9

So does that mean it's the people, not the guns, that are the problem? (nt) Recursion Jul 2015 #17

See the subthread beginning with reply #21 Electric Monk Jul 2015 #28

What bizarre pruning of the facts Doctor_J Jul 2015 #5

You're almost right Recursion Jul 2015 #6

+1 an entire shit load. Enthusiast Jul 2015 #7

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #10

Name one thing false in that post (nt) Recursion Jul 2015 #16

Isn't Switzerland working on passing the Mincome? daredtowork Jul 2015 #8

It failed at a referendum Recursion Jul 2015 #15

Health insurance companies are non-profit in Switzerland BainsBane Jul 2015 #11

Sort of. The companies are for-profit, their plans are actuarially neutral Recursion Jul 2015 #13

In addition to other comments, I'd question points 2 and 3 DFW Jul 2015 #12

They didn't want to keep it low forever, sure Recursion Jul 2015 #14

For sure, cantonal taxes vary widely, and the Swiss include them when considering their tax burden DFW Jul 2015 #20

So good labor helps. joshcryer Jul 2015 #18

Labor unions do more than labor laws, this would lead me to believe Recursion Jul 2015 #19

About that "high gun ownership"... Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #21

No, automatic weapons are not banned Recursion Jul 2015 #22

Private ownership of full-auto weapons is banned in Switzerland. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #23

Banned for non-servicemembers? Recursion Jul 2015 #24

Members of the militia do not own their issued weapons. Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #25

But they can buy ammunition privately Recursion Jul 2015 #26

No, they can't Spider Jerusalem Jul 2015 #27

Private health insurance regulated to the hilt by the government Crunchy Frog Jul 2015 #29

A key quote in the OP that highlights the tradeoff between social and economic progressivism AZ Progressive Jul 2015 #30

I've always felt education was the only real way forward. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #31