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ret5hd

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2. Why is it fraud if the IRS says it is legal?

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:20 AM

May 2012

not stating a position on whether it SHOULD be legal but:

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What does the IRS have to say about all this?

The agency sent WTHR a statement, defending its policy of paying tax credits to illegal immigrants.

"The law has been clear for over a decade that eligibility for these credits does not depend on work authorization status or the type of taxpayer identification number used. Any suggestion that the IRS shouldn't be paying out these credits under current law to ITIN holders is simply incorrect. The IRS administers the law impartially and applies it as it is written," the statement said.
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Massive tax fraud by undocumented workers in Indiana [View all] True Earthling May 2012 OP

Sure. No wonder Indiana is blood red. sinkingfeeling May 2012 #1

Why is it fraud if the IRS says it is legal? ret5hd May 2012 #2

It's illegal to report children living in a false address in Indiana True Earthling May 2012 #4

If the children live in a trailer on some farm acerage Vanje May 2012 #54

Rich people use tax loopholes all the time to get benefits and people get upset about that 4th law of robotics May 2012 #6

It is fraud because the children don't exist. former9thward May 2012 #7

The IRS doesn't say it's legal, quite the opposite. dems_rightnow May 2012 #9

Don't you need a obnoxiousdrunk May 2012 #3

I had a return rejected by the IRS sadbear May 2012 #35

Interesting that 30k outrages you, but 65 million from the Facebook guy doesn't merit a post from Pisces May 2012 #5

Both, I think are outrageous 4th law of robotics May 2012 #8

ITIN filers claimed $4.2B in tax credits in 2010 True Earthling May 2012 #14

That's quite a bit of money 4th law of robotics May 2012 #18

I didn't see the thread. Obviously Severin's crime is worse True Earthling May 2012 #10

Fraud, no matter how you try to spin it. zzaapp May 2012 #11

Fail GeorgeGist May 2012 #12

This is old news jehop61 May 2012 #13

You can get a tax refund even if you paid zero federal income tax Major Nikon May 2012 #16

Tax credits. The-Roof-Is-On-Fire May 2012 #23

The exact same story showed up in and about Alabama a few weeks ago. RW Astro-turf? trof May 2012 #51

Are those undocumented workers driving their welfare cadillacs to coalition_unwilling May 2012 #15

Do you believe they deserve the tax credits? True Earthling May 2012 #17

They deserve the tax credits as much or more than 1% of the country's coalition_unwilling May 2012 #24

So as long as there is a 1% it's ok to break the law True Earthling May 2012 #29

Well you know how it goes, 'monkey see monkey do'. Rex May 2012 #30

Capital (and capital gains) are generally taxed at a far lower rate (15%) than coalition_unwilling May 2012 #37

So you have no problem with those who do not pay taxes or defraud the gov't? True Earthling May 2012 #40

I have a problem with a society where 80% of the wealth is controlled by 10% coalition_unwilling May 2012 #41

Not at all. True Earthling May 2012 #46

As the 19th-century French novelist Balzac put it, "Behind coalition_unwilling May 2012 #47

No and not so much advocating it as realizing Bakunin might have been onto something. :D n/t Chan790 May 2012 #55

Did you know pot use was associated with aggression? Hell Hath No Fury May 2012 #19

What does that have to do with this thread? True Earthling May 2012 #21

The only thing pot use made me aggressive about was eating coalition_unwilling May 2012 #22

Supporting government subsidies for low wage earners 4th law of robotics May 2012 #20

Oh please. Your specious logic and race-baiting national coalition_unwilling May 2012 #25

Specious logic: 4th law of robotics May 2012 #27

Reality check: if the government somehow magically (speaking of magic) got coalition_unwilling May 2012 #38

So any explanation as to how having 10+ million illegal workers helps the lot of American workers? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #43

There's no such thing as an 'illegal worker' (or "illegal human being" for that matter), except coalition_unwilling May 2012 #48

There's no such thing as an 'illegal worker' 4th law of robotics May 2012 #58

Out of curiosity; what are your thoughts on outsourcing 4th law of robotics May 2012 #28

If capital is allowed to move freely across borders (what you call coalition_unwilling May 2012 #39

So just to clarify: you are pro-outsourcing 4th law of robotics May 2012 #42

Straw man alert. Did you bother to read what I wrote? - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #49

I don't think you even understand how your policies are harming workers 4th law of robotics May 2012 #59

You clearly DID NOT READ what I wrote. I said, "IF capital is allowed coalition_unwilling May 2012 #60

You side with the owners who seek near slave labor 4th law of robotics May 2012 #61

Funny that you say I side with owners when I favor expropriating coalition_unwilling May 2012 #62

Exactly. Government subsidizes cheap labor, hammering working people and enriching the 1%. nt Romulox May 2012 #26

Who is the source for this story? EFerrari May 2012 #31

'unnamed sources' Major Nikon May 2012 #32

Unnamed undocumented workers. EFerrari May 2012 #33

I had already heard the story from two different wingnuts Major Nikon May 2012 #34

If it ever reaches the extent of corporate fraud, I'll allow it due consideration... LanternWaste May 2012 #36

Abberration? 2.3M returns - over $4B paid True Earthling May 2012 #44

appears you're inferring sentiments simply that don't exist. LanternWaste May 2012 #45

There was a similar issue in Maryland Blue_Tires May 2012 #50

people cheating on their taxes? and you act surprised? CreekDog May 2012 #52

Viral 'Tax Loophole' Video is Misleading. (Forbes) trof May 2012 #53

So THATS why our economy is sunk... Vanje May 2012 #56

THAT'S IT! Hissyspit May 2012 #57