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marym625

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Sun Jul 26, 2015, 11:27 AM Jul 2015

So many questions on what happened to Sandra Bland [View all]

These questions are mine and Dark n Stormy Knight's from this thread post. http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027009409 I am linking to it because there are a few videos that are important in the OP and articles, the Intercept in particular, that raise more questions.

Knight's questions:

Why did he go to the passenger side of her car at first? Maybe that's not unusual, but I've never seen it before. 

2. How does anyone not see the unnecessary power tripping of the cop in the following exchange? He is supposed to be the professional in this situation. 

TROOPER: "You OK?" 

BLAND: "I'm waiting on you. This is your job. I'm waiting on you. What do you want me to do?" 

TROOPER: "You seem very irritated." 

BLAND: "I am. I really am. Because of what I've been stopped and am getting a ticket for. I've been getting out of the way. You've been speeding up, so I move over and you stop me. So yeah, I am a little irritated. But that didn't stop you from giving me a ticket." 

TROOPER: "Are you done?" 

BLAND: "You asked me what was wrong and I told you. So now I'm done, yeah." 

TROOPER: "OK, OK." 

(Pause) 

TROOPER: "Do you mind putting out your cigarette, please?" 

BLAND: "I'm in my car. Why do I have to put out my cigarette?" 

TROOPER: "Well, you can step out now."



He prods her about why she's irritated. She speaks for approximately 10 seconds and he impatiently asks, "Are you done?," as if she's just gone on and on. Her response to this, that he asked and she told him, pisses him off. He suddenly finds her cigarette offensive. And when she asks why she can't smoke in her own car, he orders her out of the car. Just because she asked why. He is clearly feeling the need to flex his power muscles simply out of ego, not necessity. 

And of course, this is where things escalate. He clearly loses his cool in this moment, which causes her to lose respect for him. She cannot trust him to behave professionally. At first, she was irritated at being pulled over for such a minor, inconsequential infraction. Now she's fearful. It's not that hard to see why she'd be hesitant to get out of the car. She knows many people, particular PoC, have been injured or killed by angry cops. (I want to add that his question was asked to the first person we see that was pulled over, also an out of state person, but it was asked in a completely different tone. The first person he's laughing "are you okay? " like oh it's nothing to worry about. With Sandy Bland, it's obviously asked like a challenge.

3. It's bad enough the video resolution is so low, but why even have dash cams if the cop can just move the interaction out of the camera's line of sight? 

4. Does the cop have the legal authority to order a bystander who is recording the incident to leave for no clear reason? 

I added:

He sped up to catch up with her. You can see it happen and she had not changed lanes until he was already on her ass. Why did he chase her down? 

Why take her glasses off? I feel like he did that because he had every intention of smashing her head into the ground. 

Why didn't they get her any medical attention? She requested EMS. They not only didn't take her, they lied and said she didn't request any medical attention. 

If the pictures of the cell were taken immediately after her death, and nothing was touched, why is there a brand new trash bag liner in the gigantic can in her cell? Why is that can in her cell at all? 

Why is the video of the cell when EMS is called to her actually a video of the monitor and not what was recorded? Why is there a pause in the video and nothing showing what happened while we watch a freeze frame? You can see that the monitor is still being recorded but the recording of what is on the monitor is frozen for many seconds. Could be a full minute. What was going on then? I suspect a garbage can is being put into the cell. 

Why was she brutalized so badly that a leaf was still in a cut in her back? 

What happened when she asked how to use the phone an hour before she was murdered? 

Why is there no video that actually looks into the cell or at least a better look at the cell? I don't believe that's the only angle or camera. 

Why is the DoJ not involved? The FBI infiltrated BLM. They cannot be trusted in this anymore than the local police can be. 

Why is the trooper still working? He was so bad that police departments in the Chicago area are using the dashcam video as a training tape of what NOT to do. 

Why hasn't there been any admonishment for telling whoever got the video on their phone to leave and stop recording? 

Why was the first posted dashcam video altered? Why remove it if it wasn't?

Here's an article in Vice that shows some inconsistencies. They also have the video of the 9 minutes right before they took her lifeless body out of the cell..it's obviously a video of the monitor. That alone is suspicious to me.

https://news.vice.com/article/sandra-blands-arresting-officer-details-alleged-assault-before-her-arrest

Vice has more than a few articles on the "arrest" and death of Sandra Bland. They're worth the read.

This thing stinks to high heaven. The DoJ should be involved. There's no reason that they shouldn't be.

I want answers. What happened to Sandra Bland and why?

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A friend of mine posted babylonsister Jul 2015 #1
Anonymous Says ‘Sandra Bland Was Murdered’, Calls For National ‘Day of Rage’ noiretextatique Jul 2015 #2
When? PatrickforO Jul 2015 #5
i just provided a link eom noiretextatique Jul 2015 #6
There is no date and no place marym625 Jul 2015 #11
Yeah but those pics on the links were pretty graphic. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #14
I don't know marym625 Jul 2015 #15
the link is gone, where is the mugshot? Alameda Jul 2015 #55
Thursday noiretextatique Jul 2015 #25
That's last year marym625 Jul 2015 #30
I have actually skipped reading all the mugshot stuff marym625 Jul 2015 #3
i think the mugshots will be key to proving murder noiretextatique Jul 2015 #8
Was just checking that out marym625 Jul 2015 #13
just looked at the mugshot again ellennelle Jul 2015 #21
not sure about that either...why would she even have a bag? noiretextatique Jul 2015 #24
Since this morning marym625 Jul 2015 #32
one error here ellennelle Jul 2015 #16
No, thank you for the clarification! nt babylonsister Jul 2015 #17
I don't blame people for suspecting LE of anything underhanded, but this does seem unlikely. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2015 #27
Yet another murder of a black person by cops. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #4
No question in my mind marym625 Jul 2015 #7
agreed. This is murder. Euphoria Jul 2015 #10
Trash can explanation: XemaSab Jul 2015 #9
so why does the gigantic trash can marym625 Jul 2015 #12
Where I work the trash cans have three or four liners hack89 Jul 2015 #18
I understand that marym625 Jul 2015 #31
In addition to stopping her for DWB, he then baited and badgered her into a confrontation. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #19
I do get it Dems to Win Jul 2015 #28
soul crushing marym625 Jul 2015 #34
+100% Enthusiast Jul 2015 #47
I won't believe it either marym625 Jul 2015 #33
additional questions ellennelle Jul 2015 #20
Good questions marym625 Jul 2015 #39
If there were 3 women in the cell across from her, have they been interviewed? snot Jul 2015 #45
At least one was marym625 Jul 2015 #54
Thx! snot Jul 2015 #70
Did the family get an independent autopsy? ALBliberal Jul 2015 #22
Yes cstanleytech Jul 2015 #37
I see you were answered marym625 Jul 2015 #40
What happened... zentrum Jul 2015 #23
absolutely. they are culpable in her death. marym625 Jul 2015 #41
"I want answers. What happened to Sandra Bland and why?" cstanleytech Jul 2015 #26
Whether or not anyone is unhappy with the answers, the questions need to be asked and Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2015 #36
Are you seriously asking me this? marym625 Jul 2015 #42
Actually we agree on some things. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #46
Didn't look like we disagreed on anything marym625 Jul 2015 #49
Murder? Perhaps not, but they surely killed her. immoderate Jul 2015 #60
Agreed, they did contribute to it provided they knew of her past suicide attempts and cstanleytech Jul 2015 #62
On your first question, passenger side approaches are the standard in most departments now. Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #29
If this is true, Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2015 #35
Read down a little and I answered that Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #38
I appreciate your answers marym625 Jul 2015 #43
Off the side of the road is safest place really if you think about it, maybe they should cstanleytech Jul 2015 #48
I understand that marym625 Jul 2015 #50
Which is why I think police departments should consider adding more cameras for better cstanleytech Jul 2015 #61
I think it matters marym625 Jul 2015 #65
I think we will get lucky to just get him fired unless he screws up more cstanleytech Jul 2015 #69
I believe it will depend on if the DoJ and/or the ACLU marym625 Jul 2015 #77
360 degree camera coverage would be a great thing Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #74
If someone is acting either combative or like they may Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #71
Thank you marym625 Jul 2015 #73
Thank you Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #76
So Lee here is a question then. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #78
I don't know enough to say either way Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #80
Fair enough, perhaps I was to hasty on the firing I will have to think on it. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #81
I appreciate all your answers, marym625 Jul 2015 #79
Your "Constitutional lawyers" are wrong Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #82
I don't have time right now marym625 Jul 2015 #83
NO The Constitutional Lawyers are quite correct! gracielynn77 Jul 2015 #84
Incorrect Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #86
not according to Texas law. marym625 Aug 2015 #87
Could you cite the TX statute for that please? NT Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #89
K&R'd!!! snot Jul 2015 #44
Whether she strangled herself or not, she was murdered by police. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #51
Well, I would like to get whoever actually killed her marym625 Jul 2015 #52
The cop who pulled her over is guilty of at a minimum 2nd degree murder. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #53
I have said this before, marym625 Jul 2015 #56
Agreed. We have become numb to conditions that are mind boggling. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #57
There is absolutely no way we can know what it feels like marym625 Jul 2015 #58
I think we have been brought to numbness that is now evolving to rage on both sides. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #59
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #63
Thank you! marym625 Jul 2015 #66
Too many questions and not enough answers, Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #68
Is drip drip drip character assassination the new thing? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2015 #64
It sure does marym625 Jul 2015 #67
K&R rbrnmw Jul 2015 #72
Thank you marym625 Jul 2015 #75
It struck me as ominous when he asked her to put out the cigarette... Ino Jul 2015 #85
Definitely marym625 Aug 2015 #88
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