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Johnny Rico

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116. I agree. As a general rule, one "gimme" per story.

Reply to 4th law of robotics (Reply #115)

Fri May 18, 2012, 10:46 AM

May 2012

Have you read the The Peshawar Lancers? Kinda steam-punk alternate history.

I have; I rather liked it, though as I recall there was an extra "gimme" in that as well (the young girl who had visions of alternate timelines).

Turtledove is another author who, in my opinion, can do really decent alternate history *if* he limits himself to a few books. After that it just comes across as tired.

He does seem to be getting into a rut lately; how many times can he re-fight WW2 (this time, with *magic*!)? While his latest book about the Yellowstone supervolcano is a departure for him, I can't recommend it. It seems like he phoned it in...we learn fare more about the character's love affairs then the actual eruption and its effects!

your name isn't by any chance a starship troopes reference is it?

It certainly is!

10,000 internet bucks if you can guess where I got mine.

Hm...obviously a take on Asimov's Three Laws of Robotics...as I recall, in one of the later Foundation novels featuring the Robot Daneel (sp?) he managed to "invent" a Fourth Law, but I don't remember what it was.

Wikipedia!

A robot may not harm humanity, or, by inaction, allow humanity to come to harm.

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Is "Prepping" Practical Or Paranoia? [View all] NNN0LHI May 2012 OP

72 hours. rrneck May 2012 #1

I prefer having enough supplies for a month. Johnny Rico May 2012 #51

Or if we have another "Brownie" running FEMA. nt rrneck May 2012 #65

I would go a bit longer than that 4th law of robotics May 2012 #67

You really should have more than 72 hours. TheWraith May 2012 #123

Yep, get 'em now! RKP5637 May 2012 #2

EMPs is among Gingrich's favorite scams. immoderate May 2012 #3

Hate to break it to you B2G May 2012 #22

Really? From whom? immoderate May 2012 #30

From whomever has the ability to explode a nuke over our heads B2G May 2012 #32

Will that prevent us from vaporizing the culprit? immoderate May 2012 #35

The idea is B2G May 2012 #39

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I have... B2G May 2012 #59

My sister is listening to the audio version right now. Johnny Rico May 2012 #64

+1 4th law of robotics May 2012 #74

We have the nuclear subs! immoderate May 2012 #60

and I'm will to bet that B2G May 2012 #66

Yeah, and look how that brought about the end of the world. progressoid May 2012 #101

Why wouldn't they just nuke us? Because an EMP attack could kill far more Americans. Johnny Rico May 2012 #75

Not only that... B2G May 2012 #77

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I doubt that it would be that successful. TheWraith May 2012 #132

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Funny thing about being able to retaliate . . . 4th law of robotics May 2012 #76

So should we nuke them first -- based on science fiction? immoderate May 2012 #92

Love your tagline...so appropriate. B2G May 2012 #93

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My main idea is an EMP attack is ridiculous. No one will attempt it. immoderate May 2012 #118

Crashing a plane in to a building is ridiculous. No one will attempt it. 4th law of robotics May 2012 #119

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"if a bunch of camel jockeys can hijack some planes" 4th law of robotics May 2012 #127

We know electromagnetic pulses happen and work because of science. TheWraith May 2012 #124

I didn't say impossible. I said ridiculous. immoderate May 2012 #125

It was "unpredictable" in 1962 when we didn't know anything about it. TheWraith May 2012 #126

I think the poster you are responding to is profoundly ignorant on this subject 4th law of robotics May 2012 #128

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I knew I had read some articles on it earlier.Thanks for the links. nt Mojorabbit May 2012 #43

Scary stuff, eh? RobertEarl May 2012 #45

He Does ProfessorGAC May 2012 #54

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I've read all the draka series 4th law of robotics May 2012 #115

I agree. As a general rule, one "gimme" per story. Johnny Rico May 2012 #116

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