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MineralMan

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108. To elaborate a little:

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 03:21 PM

Jul 2015

I really stopped reading Pitt's posts after the POSUCS thing. I wasn't around for the discussion mentioned in this thread, so I'm not much interested in it. Flying off the handle is sort of expected, I guess, but this website is called Democratic Underground. I've never been a fan of attacking a sitting Democratic President, especially using vile language to do so.

See, I see that as more than just "flying off the handle." I see it as destructive, politically. I understand the unhappiness with a family health situation, but it turns out that wasn't Obama's fault in any way, and there was a solution available. The habit some have on DU of attaching blame for things to the President seems completely out of place here, somehow.

I don't like it, but it's not my website, so when it happens, my tendency is to discount the posts of anyone who does so, especially in a completely unjustified way. .It costs a poster who does that any trust I might have in that poster's judgment.

I don't want to operate a discussion forum. I wouldn't like that job at all. I prefer just posting on one that is more or less aligned with my political point of view. I'm a Democrat, so DU is my choice.

Calling our sitting Democratic President a "piece of shit used car salesman" steps way beyond the "flying off the handle" level of discourse. I won't listen to such things, and I don't have to. Again, I don't run a discussion forum. If I did, such a thing wouldn't stand in the first place.

So, one poster has declared that he is leaving DU. My response is simple. It is "Seeya." I'll still be here, and I haven't been reading that poster's posts anyhow. I ignore them, the old fashioned way, by simply not clicking on them.

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"24 business hours" [View all] JonLP24 Jul 2015 OP

Wait- I'm confused Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #1

I'm confused simply by the incoherency of the OP's first sentence! kentauros Jul 2015 #122

A poster that the Op hates wrote an article predicting Rove's indictment Marrah_G Jul 2015 #141

Any idea what brought this on? arcane1 Jul 2015 #144

I agree with your assessment. Marrah_G Jul 2015 #155

"Nasty, disgusting, stalkerish behavior" it certainly is . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #153

Is this why Pitt posted a farwell note? (nt) question everything Jul 2015 #166

yes- his was the final straw for him Marrah_G Jul 2015 #167

Thanks. Too bad. This is the problem with people who charge forward waving the flags question everything Jul 2015 #170

He didn't say that. He just said his 'cork had popped' muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #217

I think I'd better clear my cache. Gidney N Cloyd Jul 2015 #2

Definitely! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #3

There are a few of us around who will pick up on this, but most will find this to be cryptic hlthe2b Jul 2015 #4

Huh? 11 Bravo Jul 2015 #5

Note below RobertEarl Jul 2015 #63

Yes, that's what's happening here pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #65

Does this relate back to 2006? Are you saying some 'leaks' are intended to make news sources Shrike47 Jul 2015 #6

Links to the story you're referencing and the 24 business hours remark would help pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #7

Here's the original story oberliner Jul 2015 #11

Thanks pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #12

Not sure why the poster brought up the topic oberliner Jul 2015 #14

I can't believe that I have been on this board so long that I knew just what Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #26

...to make us feel old? Warren DeMontague Jul 2015 #29

Mission accomplished oberliner Jul 2015 #30

Ah but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #35

You like the Byrds version better than Dylan's original? oberliner Jul 2015 #37

Same here pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #39

I saw Dylan and McGuinn perform it together oberliner Jul 2015 #40

I saw that on TV pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #41

OMG, that is just awesome! passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #247

It's still goddamn funny, I don't care who that burns alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #27

Agreed oberliner Jul 2015 #31

I actually bet a bunch of DUers at the time that the story was bullshit alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #36

Just read through some of that oberliner Jul 2015 #38

. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #50

Very often have so many been so wrong about something so obvious alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #64

And we have a GBCW for posterity's sake. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #85

Fair enough, but what was done by the Bush admin was a crime. And believing Rove was involved, since stevenleser Jul 2015 #127

Rove was of course involved alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #131

the most ironic thing was that the leak to Novak was from one of the few sane geek tragedy Jul 2015 #142

You are very gracious my friend considering the vitriol directed at you msanthrope Jul 2015 #172

Vitriol? Are there posts I'm missing? stevenleser Jul 2015 #177

I was necalling threads closer to the time...... and I think some long-standing grudges developed msanthrope Jul 2015 #178

"Fitzmas"! CTyankee Jul 2015 #150

Yes, we were all waiting for Fitzmas. tavernier Jul 2015 #185

Alcibades mystery was an oasis of common sense in a desert of hysteria. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #176

Ha! alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #180

"Dude that left will be back." And, with similar fanfare and self-promotion, I might add. Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #216

What is the new TruthOut story? Is it worth talking about? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #13

See oberliner's posts pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #16

Not quite sure what you are aiming at, but it is pretty obvious what happened with "Fitzmas" tritsofme Jul 2015 #8

One of the most entertaining months on DU. egduj Jul 2015 #9

Yes, it was oberliner Jul 2015 #19

I won a bet, I know that... alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #28

It was my first month at DU treestar Jul 2015 #66

Thanks for my first smile on an otherwise sad thread. merrily Jul 2015 #67

William Pitt: "I just got off the phone with Jason Leopold..." oberliner Jul 2015 #10

DU rec... SidDithers Jul 2015 #15

It's HUGH! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #17

Merry Fitzmas! oberliner Jul 2015 #20

It's series!. nt msanthrope Jul 2015 #169

. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #18

That thread... SidDithers Jul 2015 #22

I'm all up in that thread alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #33

From the original announcement thread: geek tragedy Jul 2015 #44

. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #45

LOL greytdemocrat Jul 2015 #51

"Big egos and bigger mouths"... SidDithers Jul 2015 #61

Indeed. merrily Jul 2015 #70

Yeah, and not the last time, unfortunately. :( Cha Jul 2015 #193

Elvis and Keith Richards said it SO well... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #218

No, it's not. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #181

Yeah, it is...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #186

well said, well said grasswire Jul 2015 #189

And, boom, something flies out of the memory hole with a mighty sound. aikoaiko Jul 2015 #21

not everything that goes into the memory hole stays there … eom ;P littlewolf Jul 2015 #24

If you were expecting to make someone feel better, you just did the opposite, I would think. randome Jul 2015 #23

"KARL ROVE HAS BEEN INDICTED" Nye Bevan Jul 2015 #25

Good old William Pitt oberliner Jul 2015 #34

. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #42

Has truth out scrubbed the story from their site?... SidDithers Jul 2015 #47

. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #49

LOL... SidDithers Jul 2015 #52

You and Octafish both rec'd it! nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #53

My good friend octafish of DU knows comedy gold when he sees it...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #54

The piece de resistance: geek tragedy Jul 2015 #55

I had never seen that... SidDithers Jul 2015 #60

Wow! Spazito Jul 2015 #106

I'm not your friend. Octafish Jul 2015 #129

Yes, because I support seeing Rove, Cheney and the BFEE in prison. Octafish Jul 2015 #125

I had forgotten this whole thing. cwydro Jul 2015 #68

I believe this particular drunken rant was deleted. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #69

Oh darn. cwydro Jul 2015 #71

this rant, directed at Skinner, copied in this Dkos diary is pretty geek tragedy Jul 2015 #72

But no way to link to it? cwydro Jul 2015 #75

deleted for obviously reasons. but it made quite a few ripples at the time nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #76

Ah, so now I understand the GBCW post. cwydro Jul 2015 #77

he's GBCWing again? I guess it had been a few years since the last one geek tragedy Jul 2015 #80

See geek's post #55 upthread...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #78

Oh dear. cwydro Jul 2015 #82

And the rest of us, including you, have never been wrong about anything. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #117

^^^^^^^^ grasswire Jul 2015 #183

More like jackals or buzzards.... awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #203

Plus a million, JD. Blue_In_AK Jul 2015 #213

If I remember correctly, Karl Rove refused to testify, refused to respond to subpeona. Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #79

it was a hoax. Rove was never indicted, and those who questioned the veracity geek tragedy Jul 2015 #91

So did you guys Ever get an apology? or just ".. haven't you ever made a mistake... blah blah.."? Cha Jul 2015 #195

Good times,good times. sufrommich Jul 2015 #32

I think the post quoted geek tragedy Jul 2015 #56

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #81

Your service and sacrifice will not be forgotten, brave internet flame warrior. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #83

You ought to make your living writing . . . Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #92

you're right, people who write stuff on the Internet should be above criticism nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #99

This is not just criticism. It is really ugly. Truly. There is a person Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #214

+1. merrily Jul 2015 #221

Word! MelissaB Jul 2015 #231

if people expect special treatment because they're semi-famous, they have to geek tragedy Jul 2015 #236

You are bringing up "special treatment" as some sort of defense. Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #237

ugly mob behavior? It's people yukking it up over perhaps the all-time geek tragedy Jul 2015 #238

You are being coy and I suspect you know it. Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #239

You would have to ask the OP--who generally tends towards the leftmost wing of this site's geek tragedy Jul 2015 #240

I am not talking about the op..I am commenting on the contents of the thread. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #241

there is much about the behavior in that episode that can be rightfully mocked. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #243

Well then enjoy yourself. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #244

The flame warrior has flamed out...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #233

and now his watch has ended. geek tragedy Jul 2015 #234

Previously banned alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #235

... Cal Carpenter Jul 2015 #43

Scooter and Judy and The Aspens Octafish Jul 2015 #46

And in other news... pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #48

Now would be a good time to check on Abe. Rex Jul 2015 #58

Fish lives! pinboy3niner Jul 2015 #59

Abemen! Rex Jul 2015 #62

+1bazillion! marym625 Jul 2015 #198

Yeah I remember that, he did strongly suspect. Rex Jul 2015 #57

Round up all the usual [strike]sadists [/strike] suspects. merrily Jul 2015 #73

GBCW posts are always subject to comment. MineralMan Jul 2015 #86

These are not comments on a GBCW thread, though. merrily Jul 2015 #89

He does have a way with words, certainly. MineralMan Jul 2015 #95

I disagree. I don't think many DUers have a way with words. merrily Jul 2015 #97

OK. We all see the world differently, I suppose. nt MineralMan Jul 2015 #98

To elaborate a little: MineralMan Jul 2015 #108

I stopped when he threatend Texasgal Jul 2015 #140

Did that really happen? cwydro Jul 2015 #224

Yes he did. Texasgal Jul 2015 #245

I read his temper tantrum rant to Skinner. cwydro Jul 2015 #246

Once enough people are ''shut up'' there'll be new words. Octafish Jul 2015 #136

I'm so with you, except that I believe that those Democrats and words already exist. merrily Jul 2015 #138

The personal attacks by the Tag Team are getting traction, dividing DU and Democrats. Octafish Jul 2015 #139

Any idea what's causing all of this, suddenly? arcane1 Jul 2015 #143

good question grasswire Jul 2015 #184

But not bored enough to stick around and partricipate in the thread. arcane1 Jul 2015 #188

"disgusting sadists" you have a very low opinion of those who do not embrace geek tragedy Jul 2015 #101

When I saw that, I wondered, "Is that poster talking about me?" MineralMan Jul 2015 #109

apparently, "disgusting sadists" doesn't include geek tragedy Jul 2015 #111

I'm not sure, either. MineralMan Jul 2015 #112

this is not his first GBCW. He'll be back. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #113

OK. I've been skipping his threads, ever since the POSUCS MineralMan Jul 2015 #114

Admirable pledge: "I promise that if I leave...there won't be a GBCW post announcing it." Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #222

Jury results. merrily Jul 2015 #74

Was there an explanation given by the alerter? muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #93

Not how I read the OP or this thread AT ALL. It's all attacks on Will Pitt. merrily Jul 2015 #96

I can't see the OP as an attack. muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #103

Sorry. Right now, I am grieving Will's departure. merrily Jul 2015 #105

I expect he'll be back sometime muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #107

You hold a minority opinion about this thread's not being the reason for his departure. merrily Jul 2015 #124

It might be this thread, but I think people are guessing muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #145

+1 n/t markpkessinger Jul 2015 #156

Are you forgetting the attacks on those of us that didn't believe the 24 business hour bullshit? Goblinmonger Jul 2015 #159

Am I forgetting something that happened years before I joined? merrily Jul 2015 #160

No, I was discussing *the OP* with you, not the thread as a whole muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #219

indeed. hifiguy Jul 2015 #168

He has had 3 books published and has been on the NYT Best Seller List. merrily Jul 2015 #208

Picked up _The Greatest Sedition is Silence_ a couple months ago. delrem Jul 2015 #223

You usually are a high quality poster here. bluedigger Jul 2015 #84

I think this person was trying to defend "24 business hours" nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #87

From what? bluedigger Jul 2015 #88

I have no idea why anyone with an ounce of sympathy for that poster geek tragedy Jul 2015 #94

Well, I'm glad you're on the inside. bluedigger Jul 2015 #104

best to avoid names to avoid getting hides for callouts geek tragedy Jul 2015 #110

Good summary. There were also awful attacks on anyone who DARED to question to story. PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #115

including a vicious attack on Skinner himself! nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #116

Yup, like I posted in the other thread: PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #119

"There's never been any explanation..." THAT'S a big reason that "24 business hours" lives on alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #118

accountabilty is for politicians, not writers nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #123

Politicians are accountable? Who can tell? merrily Jul 2015 #132

they're supposed to be, according to writers, nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #134

Ah, if only things worked in reality as well as they should in theory. merrily Jul 2015 #135

indeed. nt geek tragedy Jul 2015 #137

I saw it unfold. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #179

Well alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #182

That was my contention at the time. A deliberate disinformation job. I still wonder... stevenleser Jul 2015 #90

Out of curiosity, was there any aftermath to this? DanTex Jul 2015 #152

Nothing, which I think made it worse. Everyone's imagination was allowed to run wild. stevenleser Jul 2015 #175

I'm not sure how the journalistic ethics surrounding burning sources work. DanTex Jul 2015 #228

Well, IMHO, if a source lies, they get burned. In practice, I would have to know for sure that they stevenleser Jul 2015 #229

I hope one of my inaccuracies from seven years ago is brought up when I get home tonight... LanternWaste Jul 2015 #100

I love the oldies too. Starry Messenger Jul 2015 #102

Shitty crappy thing to post. Marrah_G Jul 2015 #120

exactly shanti Jul 2015 #242

joined in 2008 - so predictable - this was the turning point around here DrDan Jul 2015 #121

Would not be unprecedented. I still have my copy of this: closeupready Jul 2015 #126

I wonder if they could have carried Missouri oberliner Jul 2015 #130

It's a good question - Gephardt was better-known at the time closeupready Jul 2015 #133

Those were glorious times theboss Jul 2015 #128

what the hell is this shit? ibegurpard Jul 2015 #146

It's called bullying. nt City Lights Jul 2015 #147

Stalkerati dickishness at it's most petty. HughBeaumont Jul 2015 #151

+1 nt hifiguy Jul 2015 #171

Hillary supporters showing their true colors again in this thread LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #148

Pretty sure the person who runs this site is a Hillary supporter oberliner Jul 2015 #149

Sure you do LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #194

Skinner is a Hillary Supporter and his colors are Red White and Blue. I always thought the OP Cha Jul 2015 #196

Despicable OP . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #154

Yep. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #164

+1 leftstreet Jul 2015 #174

Agreed! MelissaB Jul 2015 #192

The OP is clearly meant as a defense of the poster in question melman Jul 2015 #199

Beyond despicable? oberliner Jul 2015 #200

It amounts to shit-stirring . . . markpkessinger Jul 2015 #212

What's the f'ing deal? JEB Jul 2015 #157

This is really odd. A "post-and"run" from a DU'er who has never been this way... madinmaryland Jul 2015 #158

Why this? Why now? Hekate Jul 2015 #161

Wow...this thread is a fucking disaster. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #162

I concur. This is high school shit. HughBeaumont Jul 2015 #191

Some of y'all are fecking pathetic. demmiblue Jul 2015 #163

Toxic. RiverLover Jul 2015 #165

This mugging is vile and so Republican like sellitman Jul 2015 #173

I really miss Unrec. City Lights Jul 2015 #187

+1000 grasswire Jul 2015 #190

Yep... And Look At All The Call-Outs In This Thread... Unbelievable... WillyT Jul 2015 #204

No, there is no rule about calling people out on DU3 muriel_volestrangler Jul 2015 #220

What is going on? suffragette Jul 2015 #215

Well my Ignore List just grew by 1 Le Taz Hot Jul 2015 #197

Oh Look... Our First Pre-Grave Dancing Thread !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #201

Meh...I wonder whatever happened to bobolink...? nt ChisolmTrailDem Jul 2015 #202

WTF prompted this? joshcryer Jul 2015 #205

I think some people dislike Will Pitt and they take every opportunity to attack him. akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #209

So it was random? joshcryer Jul 2015 #210

No, I did not say that. I was pissed at Mr. Pitt for calling the fucking President of the US, a used akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #211

You are disgusting. You really bringing this shit up to akbacchus_BC Jul 2015 #206

that's true grasswire Jul 2015 #226

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #207

Who was Jason' source? Do we know? I found that whole episode fascinating. yodermon Jul 2015 #225

... Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2015 #227

And people still wonder why our circle is shrinking? raouldukelives Jul 2015 #230

Some people are just assholes donheld Jul 2015 #232

Hey --- your rock is missing you. rosesaylavee Jul 2015 #248