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FourScore

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93. No. And you are right to ask that question, as my comment does sound that way. What I mean is:
Mon Jul 27, 2015, 08:37 PM
Jul 2015

(and did not say) This was a one-sided interview. It is purely from Cenac's perspective.

If things were really as Cenac describes them, then that is disappointing to me. I would've held Stewart to a higher standard. However, even if it were true, I question Cenac's judgement in airing dirty laundry like this, especially right when Stewart is saying goodbye. The question is, did he only blow up at Cenac or did he do it to others? Cenac makes it sound racial. Maybe it's just prima donna-ish. Or maybe Cenac was pushing buttons in ways that were counterproductive to those trying to put a show together in a matter of a few hours. Who knows? The interview was one-sided.

Still, Cenac owes his current fame to Stewart. Unfortunately, by speaking out publicly, I am afraid that he has harmed his own career. I used to work in the film industry. People who are famous are accused of all sorts of crazy shit. It's frowned upon when stars do it publicly to each other or to a producer or writer or director, etc. You deal with it internally. That's why magazines so often quote a good friend. The star may green light the "friend" to talk to the reporter, but they won't do it themselves. Then there is always a blanket of protection. People won't be so eager to hire Cenac if he doesn't understand this. They will question his judgement and wonder if he will do the same to them.

Each time I see a star complain publicly, I think, "What the hell did you just do that for?" because they are shooting their own career down, not the person they are attacking. I can give countless examples, but the entertainment industry is sort of like a family, you just don't air the dirty laundry through the press.

Also, the enormous stress of putting together a nightly 30-minute comedy show based on current events is so hard. I have always been in awe of Stewart (and Colbert) for what they are capable of doing. Such stress is so enormous, you have no idea. If people blow their stack every now and then, I get it. Is it right? No. Is it part of it? I don't see how it couldn't be.

Anyway, my comment before was stupid and inarticulate and only a fraction of what I was thinking. Thank you for calling me out on it, Feron, and forcing me to do it right.

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Now the outrage spreads to Jon Stewart! ForgoTheConsequence Jul 2015 #1
Cool, that Cenac plans to be at the last show, to which Jon has invited him. cilla4progress Jul 2015 #2
This is a good example gollygee Jul 2015 #3
seems to be a better example of something else hfojvt Jul 2015 #73
Jon Stewart is an artist. That's no excuse, but a volatile temper is all too often a sort of JDPriestly Jul 2015 #4
I tend to agree with you on this brush Jul 2015 #5
I never have believed that a person is justified in being an asshole because of some talent. nt Logical Jul 2015 #8
It does come with the baggage. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2015 #10
Yeah, the greatest artist of the 20th century was Picasso and he was . . . brush Jul 2015 #13
Pablo Picasso was never called an asshole. 6000eliot Jul 2015 #38
I just did and I'm a fan of his work, but . . . brush Jul 2015 #45
I was quoting the song I linked to. 6000eliot Jul 2015 #56
+1 lol Beartracks Jul 2015 #55
Not in New York Matariki Jul 2015 #82
Nope, I think it is their way to justify being an asshole. nt Logical Jul 2015 #22
You are right. A bad temper is never justified. It just is. And people who get carried JDPriestly Jul 2015 #29
Do you have any evidence of Stewart's assholery ... 11 Bravo Jul 2015 #35
I was addressing the excuse to behave that way. I have no idea if he is an asshole. nt Logical Jul 2015 #39
"Volitile" yes. oasis Jul 2015 #11
Yeah, I remember that. He was right to do that though brush Jul 2015 #17
Hulk Hogan and Dog the bounty hunter ARE racists. Stewart's PC chops may oasis Jul 2015 #21
that was pre-planned... lame54 Jul 2015 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author vaberella Jul 2015 #26
why do you think he should apologize? hfojvt Jul 2015 #75
From the OP: "Mr. Stewart later apologized to his staff" arcane1 Jul 2015 #76
If Jon is a racist, Wyatt, why did he hire you? GreatCaesarsGhost Jul 2015 #6
racism doesnt stop or start at association uponit7771 Jul 2015 #12
exactly nt Quayblue Jul 2015 #20
Don't think he said "he" was a racist brush Jul 2015 #18
I think you need to step back here. Cenac never made an accusation of JS being racist. n/t vaberella Jul 2015 #23
did he say jon was a racist ? JI7 Jul 2015 #30
Ah, the circular firing squad TheSarcastinator Jul 2015 #7
"it's never been a secret that he's an asshole" City Lights Jul 2015 #9
Hey, I'm sure that poster has spent ... 11 Bravo Jul 2015 #37
Gee, Jon Stewart yelled at a black guy. He must be a racist. Comrade Grumpy Jul 2015 #14
Who said anything about racism? Where do you see that in the post? vaberella Jul 2015 #24
Did you not even read the excerpt provided? oberliner Jul 2015 #51
It's in the OP's title: "Jon Stewart told Daily Show writer to 'f*** off' after racial conversation" Beartracks Jul 2015 #54
"...Mr. Stewart later apologized to his staff...", everyone has a bad day uponit7771 Jul 2015 #15
Here's the segment that started it madville Jul 2015 #16
Yeah, the "I do not like to read." can be perceived as having racist overtones. vaberella Jul 2015 #25
Of course, because "you don't like to read" is a classic racist taunt. GaYellowDawg Jul 2015 #49
Please step off your high horse. vaberella Jul 2015 #57
LOL Skittles Jul 2015 #70
Herman Caine is the ONE who doesn't like to read. People reading it as all black people don't like Ed Suspicious Jul 2015 #78
"looking for something to bitch about" is becoming very common on DU lately Skittles Jul 2015 #92
You are almost right. GaYellowDawg Jul 2015 #86
I agree. cwydro Jul 2015 #66
Stuart isn't channelling Kingfish. He's using Cain's own faux folksy speaking style. Monk06 Jul 2015 #34
I LOVE Jon Stewart! jazzimov Jul 2015 #19
Deplorable Behaviour on this thread. I'd like to point out something I noticed from posters here: vaberella Jul 2015 #27
"It's never been a secret that he's an asshole" Skittles Jul 2015 #41
What does that have to do with my post? vaberella Jul 2015 #58
comments like that Skittles Jul 2015 #71
"I never liked Jon....asshole......blah blah." ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #42
This is not from the article. vaberella Jul 2015 #59
When one includes their own personal comments on an article in an OP.... ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #63
Oh, come on. GaYellowDawg Jul 2015 #52
I don't care about what Jon Stewart has done or not. vaberella Jul 2015 #60
Of course you don't. GaYellowDawg Jul 2015 #87
I agree, but at the same time I think it's hard to judge either way whether this was racism davidpdx Jul 2015 #53
Vaberella!!!!! Number23 Jul 2015 #89
Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #28
Yeah wheniwasincongress Jul 2015 #31
am I on Free Republic?...did you just say Jews are difficult people???? Demonaut Jul 2015 #32
A jury just took care of it, unanimously by the way still_one Jul 2015 #33
Results... Major Nikon Jul 2015 #43
Good still_one Jul 2015 #44
Cenac was rarely funny... Positrons Jul 2015 #36
Couldn't disagree more-- I thought he was hilarious. Marr Jul 2015 #61
i dont know what show you watched but wyatt cenac was hillarious La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #65
Meh... Positrons Jul 2015 #67
stewart has done more on race, but he IS A COMIC. pansypoo53219 Jul 2015 #40
has done more on race than whom? La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #85
i imagine there is some stress around there restorefreedom Jul 2015 #46
This happened in 2011 wheniwasincongress Jul 2015 #47
oh. never mind then. i saw the date on the link. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #48
horse manure spanone Jul 2015 #50
this reminds me of something Louis CK said La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #64
Where exactly was it said Stewart claimed to be more of an expert on race ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #68
read the whole story. it's about race, specifically blacks. nt La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #84
I did read the whole article, it's why I asked you ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jul 2015 #88
Herman Cain Aerows Jul 2015 #97
it came up now because of a podcast in which Cenac was asked a question La Lioness Priyanka Jul 2015 #98
I can't speak for "you people" Aerows Jul 2015 #100
I spent the weekend watching Dean Martin Roasts on DVD MosheFeingold Jul 2015 #69
That's a wonderfully unsupported allegation. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #72
The OP'ers commentary at the bottom ot their post is totally UNSUBSTANTIATED. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #74
Of course shenmue Jul 2015 #77
Wyatt Cenac would be a nobody if it weren't for Jon Stewart. FourScore Jul 2015 #79
So shut up and take abuse from someone? Feron Jul 2015 #91
No. And you are right to ask that question, as my comment does sound that way. What I mean is: FourScore Jul 2015 #93
Sometimes it's the only appropriate response. [nt] Jester Messiah Jul 2015 #80
His Herman Cain voice was pretty close to the line, I guess theboss Jul 2015 #81
This message was self-deleted by its author wheniwasincongress Jul 2015 #83
This doesn't surprise me at all. But I give props to the Producers at the Daily Show that openly Number23 Jul 2015 #90
I worked with Jon Stewart... meaculpa2011 Jul 2015 #94
Hush! wheniwasincongress Jul 2015 #95
This is bullshit Aerows Jul 2015 #96
+1 DawgHouse Jul 2015 #99
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