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Hissyspit

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Tue Jul 28, 2015, 02:14 AM Jul 2015

READ THIS: Janis Ian's Facebook Post Tonight About New York Magazine's Bill Cosby Victims Cover... [View all]

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This is a publicly embeddable Facebook post, so I am reproducing it all here:

[/script][div class="fb-post" data-href="https://www.facebook.com/janisianpage/posts/880241212062598" data-width="500"][div class="fb-xfbml-parse-ignore"][blockquote cite="https://www.facebook.com/janisianpage/posts/880241212062598"][p]http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.htmlDo I have a stake in this issue? Yes. Of course....

Posted by [a href="https://www.facebook.com/janisianpage"]Janis Ian[/a] on [a href="https://www.facebook.com/janisianpage/posts/880241212062598"]Monday, 27 July 2015[/a]

http://nymag.com/thecut/2015/07/bill-cosbys-accusers-speak-out.html

Do I have a stake in this issue? Yes. Of course. Outside of being female, outside of knowing women aren't "heard" as loudly as men are heard, outside of firmly believing that if women were treated equally around the world, many if not all of the world's problems would no longer exist - outside of all that... I have a personal stake.

No, I was not sexually bothered by Bill Cosby. We met because he was curious about me.

My song "Society's Child" was climbing the charts and creating a great deal of controversy. The Smothers Brothers took a huge gamble and had me on their hit television show. I was just sixteen years old when we taped it. I'd been on the road for months, doing press and one-nighters. My chaperone/tour manager, a family friend six or seven years older than me, was doing everything in her power to make sure I was protected and getting as much rest as possible.

Remember. I was sixteen. Still in high school. Fairly naive, including about my own sexuality. For months on the road, my chaperone was the only consistent face I saw. Everyone else was a complete stranger - radio personalities, newspaper reporters, magazine photographers, audiences, promoters, disc jockeys, all strangers. So I clung to my chaperone.

We'd never been to a big-time TV taping. We had no idea we'd have to be inside from early early morning until whenever they called for me. There were only a couple of chairs for us on the set - I was pretty low on the totem pole, way lower than Jimmy Durante or Pat Paulsen or Mason Williams (all of whom were wonderful to us). And I was exhausted. I'd been having nightmares for weeks, the result of the controversy surrounding "Society's Child" and the death threats I was receiving daily. I needed to sleep. So I fell asleep in my chaperone's lap. She was earth motherly, I was scared. It was good to rest.

We taped the show. I had a ball. (You can see it on Youtube, in fact. That's me, looking scared, in the green dress. My friend Buffy from East Orange, where I'd started high school, made it for me. I treasured it.) Then we went back to New York, and I went back to school.

A while later, my manager called me into her office. "What happened at the Smothers Brothers show?!" I had no idea what she was talking about, and said so. "Well, no one else on TV is willing to have you on. Not out there, anyway." Why? I wondered. And was told that Cosby, seeing me asleep in the chaperone's lap, had made it his business to "warn" other shows that I wasn't "suitable family entertainment", was probably a lesbian, and shouldn't be on television.

Again, a reminder. I was 16. I'd never slept with a man, I'd never slept with a woman. Hell, I barely been kissed, and that in the middle of the summer camp sports area, next to the ping pong table.

Banned from TV. Unbelievable. Bless Johnny Carson and his producer Freddy de Cordova, one of the nicest men I've ever worked with, because they didn't listen. Or maybe they didn't give a damn. I don't know. I do know that they broke the barrier Cosby tried to create.

There's a lot to bother a sensible person about this. The years these women were ignored. The years they were derided. That the story finally really "broke" because a male comedian named Hannibal Buress kept bringing it up, kept calling Cosby a "rapist". Not because woman after woman after woman went to the police, to the press, to anyone who'd listen, with horribly similar stories.

Let me be snarky for a moment. Interesting that there are so few women of color in the New Yorker photo. Interesting that the ones in the photo all appear to be light-skinned. Perhaps darker skinned women have not come forward yet? Perhaps they're among the other 12 women who've accused him but aren't pictured?

Or perhaps not. I have to wonder if this rapist has some issues with his own race.

Continuing the snarkiness, I find it horrifying that his wife is still insisting it was all consensual. That she sounds more upset by "the invasion of privacy" than the rapes.

People seem to be confused because she continues to stand by him. I have just two words for that - money, honey. According to the press, she's his manager, and has been for years. And his "business manager", eg the person who handles the money. So if there were pay-offs, she saw the checks. She is complicit.

If it was consensual, why pay anyone to be silent?

If it was consensual, why are there so many women who do not want money, who do not need fame, who are by turns ashamed, violated, exposed, vulnerable, and still continue to speak out?

Cosby was right in one thing. I am gay. Or bi, if you prefer, since I dearly loved the two men I lived with over the years. My tilt is toward women, though, and he was right about that.

But what an odd thing, that a black man who slept with so very many white women chose to take my possible lesbianism away from our one meeting, rather than the message I tried to get across with "Society's Child." How pathetic. How truly, truly pathetic.
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Here's that very video..... MADem Jul 2015 #1
When she said 'green,' she meant GREEN. Hissyspit Jul 2015 #2
Yep--I think you could be color blind and still see that green!!! nt MADem Jul 2015 #4
great song - ahead of its time samsingh Jul 2015 #31
I used to love to quote some of Cosby's iconic riffs... "These aren't the people who 1monster Jul 2015 #38
This song still gives me goose-bumps. Lifelong Protester Jul 2015 #35
She was a very talented young woman. Those were the days before everyone had an MADem Jul 2015 #37
She was an amazing talent passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #47
She still is. She looks like someone's auntie nowadays, but she's still kicking! MADem Jul 2015 #50
Yes, I had to look up images of her passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #53
I love Janis. Glad she's still around. tblue Jul 2015 #3
100% true shenmue Jul 2015 #7
Thanks for posting this. avaistheone1 Jul 2015 #5
How did Cosby get by with this for so long? JDPriestly Jul 2015 #6
So true. SheilaT Jul 2015 #9
Thank you. It is very difficult to talk about our experiences in this area because JDPriestly Jul 2015 #10
Yes, it is difficult to talk about these things. SheilaT Jul 2015 #11
Very similar to Jimmy Savile -- "everyone knows" celebrities. But they really don't. hunter Jul 2015 #30
I think his fame and popularity had a lot to do with it passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #48
"The Nail That Sticks UP Gets Hammered DOWN." MADem Jul 2015 #52
Janis Ian has become one of my heroes. SheilaT Jul 2015 #8
Janis reads a story on the audiobook of 'Rogues' a collection of short stories edited by George RR Bluenorthwest Jul 2015 #13
Kick for morning readers. nt Hissyspit Jul 2015 #12
What a truly nasty man he must be. cwydro Jul 2015 #14
I read something a while back by a woman that went to interview him. leftyladyfrommo Jul 2015 #20
I'm sure he thinks cwydro Jul 2015 #22
Just when I thought my opinion of Cosby couldn't get any lower... bullwinkle428 Jul 2015 #15
So very true... blue neen Jul 2015 #19
Really, to try and ruin that talented young woman's career! BuelahWitch Jul 2015 #23
That song still moves me to tears. MindPilot Jul 2015 #16
And another thing...... MyOwnPeace Jul 2015 #17
Watching the Smothers Bothers was a big part of my political awakening. nt JEB Jul 2015 #24
^^^. How true. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #27
...! KoKo Jul 2015 #42
k&r... spanone Jul 2015 #18
k and r. the more we see and hear and read, the more it is clear that the dr. huxtable niyad Jul 2015 #21
Wow marym625 Jul 2015 #25
That's just it, he knew gay people and thus learned they were not a "threat." Dustlawyer Jul 2015 #45
LIked this part AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #26
I'm a 62 year old man and I still get a lump in my throat when I hear, At Seventeen. Snotcicles Jul 2015 #28
I'm just a few years behind you bvf Jul 2015 #33
That was beautiful thanks for sharing. I've never heard that before. nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #34
Still love this song, too. Lifelong Protester Jul 2015 #36
+1.nt Snotcicles Jul 2015 #40
wow - cosby's depth of indecency gets deeper samsingh Jul 2015 #29
Beauty, brilliance, and the voice of an angel. colorado_ufo Jul 2015 #32
This just takes my breath away, that he could look on such innocence... Hekate Jul 2015 #39
Ah, but she was unavailable to him passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #49
You mean like, "If I can't have you, nobody can"? It would figure. Nt Hekate Jul 2015 #51
YEP passiveporcupine Jul 2015 #54
I think we can at least be somewhat confident that jomin41 Jul 2015 #41
k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #43
A follow-up post by her in response to a commenter: Hissyspit Jul 2015 #44
how could anybody do such a thing? what a disgusting creep. So long since I thought of Janis Ian magical thyme Jul 2015 #46
kick love_katz Jul 2015 #55
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