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In reply to the discussion: Is Glenn Greenwald a liar? [View all]kfreed
(88 posts)Keeping up with Greenwald's lies (the archives): http://www.bobcesca.com/blog-archives/tag/glenn-greenwald
There is not room enough to post all of the experts who have refuted Greenwald's claims (not that any of Greenwald's devoted fans will entertain any contradictions). Cesca will direct you to some of them. Meanwhile, the internet is littered with a great many learned individuals who are constantly calling out Greenwald on his Gish Galloping lying. Learn to use Google.
Did anyone ever mention that the NSA Privacy Review Board completed its investigation and issued its final report (nothing illegal about it, though they do recommend added oversight):
Hardly the hair-on-fire anti-government hysteria for which Greenwald is known.
http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/PCLOB_Report.pdf
Moreover, Glenn Greenwald is not on the left and Ron/Rand Paul are not civil libertarians - The biggest lies of all
Here's what Glenn Greenwald really thinks about "socialist-collectivist pacifists" (that's Teabag/libertarian speak for the anti-war left):
Glenn Greenwald, Unclaimed Territory: Friday, November 04, 2005
"The reality of Latin American reaction to Bush
George Bush is here in Latin America this week, visiting Brazil and Argentina, and the standard reports of the American media are trying to depict a handful of isolated, juvenile socialist-organized "demonstrations" as some sort of sweeping, popular mass protest against Bushs visit, thereby suggesting, yet again, that the Administrations policies are flawed because people in other countries dislike Bush. As usual, the truth is vastly different than what the U.S. media is reporting (see UPDATE below) .
It is true that in this region (as is true for the U.S.), there remains a small, fervent band of left-wing fanatics with crazed enthusiasm for the worn-out, socialist/collectivist policies which have condemned millions upon millions of people throughout Latin America to poverty unimaginable to even the poorest Americans. These putative "mass demonstrations" in Argentina and Brazil are, in reality, nothing more than a few isolated spray-painting incidents of trite pacifist slogans in Brasilia, and a Cindy Sheehan-like "rally" of hard-core Socialists in Argentina led by an obese, Castro-idolozing, retired soccer player who found time away from his decade-old cocaine addiction to show up wearing an oh-so-clever t-shirt showing Bush's name spelled with a swastika."
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/11/reality-of-latin-american-reaction-to.html
Note: Greenwald, Bruce Fein, Julian Assange, Edward Snowden... all in the Ron Paul camp. Ron Paul happens to be a far right white supremacist whose supposed "anti-war" stance is in fact "anti-Jew": http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11/dark-side-of-paul-phenomenon.html
That's what Ron Paul's "New World Order conspiracy theories are about: Ron Paul's 1982 John Birch Society video: http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11/dark-side-of-paul-phenomenon.html
The Libertarian Party/John Birch Society: Kochs, Ron Paul, Phyllis Schlafly, Tim LaHaye: http://thepoliticalspectator.com/tag/ron-paul/
Are there a lot of "progressives" who tour college campuses in the sole company of white supremacists?
Political Research Associates:" Nullification, Neo-Confederates, and the Revenge of the Old Right"
http://www.politicalresearch.org/2013/11/22/nullification-neo-confederates-and-the-revenge-of-the-old-right/#sthash.8KfDWPmt.dpuf
Note that Koch's Cat Institute wrote the legal justifications for the War on Terror, warrentless wire-tapping, torture, under Bush 2.0:
http://www.thenation.com/article/independent-and-principled-behind-cato-myth/
Radley Balko profile: Koch shill with a history of racism and agitating for the total privatization of the NSA:
http://shameproject.com/profile/radley-balko/
Ron Paul and his white supremacist/Christian Right/militia network: academia.edu: "Chapter 20: Oath Keepers Networks With Tea Party and Patriots/Christian Right"
https://www.academia.edu/9716371/CHAPTER_20_OATH_KEEPERS_NETWORKS_WITH_TEA_PARTY_AND_PATRIOTS
****I, for one, want legal law enforcement surveillance of armed, violent white supremacist groups.
Ron Paul's 'South Was Eight' no-confederate speech in front of confederate flag:
Jacob Hornberger: "Hornberger has some pretty extreme libertarian views of his own that one assumes Greenwald must've not been aware of when he agreed to tour with him: Hornberger opposes civil rights laws banning racial discrimination, opposes minimum wage, opposes democracy, and argues that America's freest days were the pre-Civil War years, back in the halcyon days of plantation slavery (which Hornberger concedes was "an infringement"
"Despite slavery and other infringements of individual freedom, Americans in the 1800s lived in the freest society in history..."
https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/libertarian-bum-fights/
Ron Paul's ACTUAL legislative record (the opposite of civil libertarian): http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11/ron-pauls-record-in-congress.html
Greenwald's Obama = Bush talking points are a product of Koch/Libertarian party talking points from a 2009 press release: http://www.lp.org/news/press-releases/libertarians-release-top-10-disasters-of-2009-obama-administration
In fact, all of your anti-Obama talking points are the product of right-wing Libertarians/Koch:
https://www.google.com/search?q=libertarian+pary+obama+%3D+bush&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=libertarian+party++press+release+obama+%3D+bush
You've been rat-ferked by white supremacists. (BTW, I could go on forever exposing Greenwald and his white supremacist pals here here, but you know, space is limited.)
Last thing: Dialog International: German-American: "Ron Paul and the Neo-Fascists":
http://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2011/12/ron-paul-and-the-neo-fascists.html
You're welcome.