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kfreed

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95. Glenn Greenwald - King of the Gish Gallop
Tue Jul 28, 2015, 07:00 AM
Jul 2015

Keeping up with Greenwald's lies (the archives): http://www.bobcesca.com/blog-archives/tag/glenn-greenwald

There is not room enough to post all of the experts who have refuted Greenwald's claims (not that any of Greenwald's devoted fans will entertain any contradictions). Cesca will direct you to some of them. Meanwhile, the internet is littered with a great many learned individuals who are constantly calling out Greenwald on his Gish Galloping lying. Learn to use Google.

Did anyone ever mention that the NSA Privacy Review Board completed its investigation and issued its final report (nothing illegal about it, though they do recommend added oversight):

Hardly the hair-on-fire anti-government hysteria for which Greenwald is known.
http://media1.s-nbcnews.com/i/MSNBC/Sections/NEWS/PCLOB_Report.pdf

Moreover, Glenn Greenwald is not on the left and Ron/Rand Paul are not civil libertarians - The biggest lies of all

Here's what Glenn Greenwald really thinks about "socialist-collectivist pacifists" (that's Teabag/libertarian speak for the anti-war left):
Glenn Greenwald, Unclaimed Territory: Friday, November 04, 2005

"The reality of Latin American reaction to Bush

George Bush is here in Latin America this week, visiting Brazil and Argentina, and the standard reports of the American media are trying to depict a handful of isolated, juvenile socialist-organized "demonstrations" as some sort of sweeping, popular mass protest against Bush’s visit, thereby suggesting, yet again, that the Administration’s policies are flawed because people in other countries dislike Bush. As usual, the truth is vastly different than what the U.S. media is reporting (see UPDATE below) .

It is true that in this region (as is true for the U.S.), there remains a small, fervent band of left-wing fanatics with crazed enthusiasm for the worn-out, socialist/collectivist policies which have condemned millions upon millions of people throughout Latin America to poverty unimaginable to even the poorest Americans. These putative "mass demonstrations" in Argentina and Brazil are, in reality, nothing more than a few isolated spray-painting incidents of trite pacifist slogans in Brasilia, and a Cindy Sheehan-like "rally" of hard-core Socialists in Argentina led by an obese, Castro-idolozing, retired soccer player who found time away from his decade-old cocaine addiction to show up wearing an oh-so-clever t-shirt showing Bush's name spelled with a swastika."
http://glenngreenwald.blogspot.com/2005/11/reality-of-latin-american-reaction-to.html

Note: Greenwald, Bruce Fein, Julian Assange, Edward Snowden... all in the Ron Paul camp. Ron Paul happens to be a far right white supremacist whose supposed "anti-war" stance is in fact "anti-Jew": http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11/dark-side-of-paul-phenomenon.html

That's what Ron Paul's "New World Order conspiracy theories are about: Ron Paul's 1982 John Birch Society video: http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11/dark-side-of-paul-phenomenon.html

The Libertarian Party/John Birch Society: Kochs, Ron Paul, Phyllis Schlafly, Tim LaHaye: http://thepoliticalspectator.com/tag/ron-paul/

Are there a lot of "progressives" who tour college campuses in the sole company of white supremacists?

(April 2015 Ron Paul, Glenn Greenwald, Radley Balko (Cato Fellow), and Jacob Hornberger college "Liberty Tour" with Ron Paul's Young Americans for Liberty, sponsored by Koch-funded The Future of Freedom Foundation). ***In the video they are discussing nullification, among other things at UT Austin. What is nullification? "State's Rights":

Political Research Associates:" Nullification, Neo-Confederates, and the Revenge of the Old Right"
http://www.politicalresearch.org/2013/11/22/nullification-neo-confederates-and-the-revenge-of-the-old-right/#sthash.8KfDWPmt.dpuf

Note that Koch's Cat Institute wrote the legal justifications for the War on Terror, warrentless wire-tapping, torture, under Bush 2.0:
http://www.thenation.com/article/independent-and-principled-behind-cato-myth/

Radley Balko profile: Koch shill with a history of racism and agitating for the total privatization of the NSA:
http://shameproject.com/profile/radley-balko/

Ron Paul and his white supremacist/Christian Right/militia network: academia.edu: "Chapter 20: Oath Keepers Networks With Tea Party and Patriots/Christian Right"
https://www.academia.edu/9716371/CHAPTER_20_OATH_KEEPERS_NETWORKS_WITH_TEA_PARTY_AND_PATRIOTS

****I, for one, want legal law enforcement surveillance of armed, violent white supremacist groups.

Ron Paul's 'South Was Eight' no-confederate speech in front of confederate flag:


Jacob Hornberger: "Hornberger has some pretty extreme libertarian views of his own that one assumes Greenwald must've not been aware of when he agreed to tour with him: Hornberger opposes civil rights laws banning racial discrimination, opposes minimum wage, opposes democracy, and argues that America's freest days were the pre-Civil War years, back in the halcyon days of plantation slavery (which Hornberger concedes was "an infringement&quot . As Hornberger writes,

"Despite slavery and other infringements of individual freedom, Americans in the 1800s lived in the freest society in history..."
https://www.nsfwcorp.com/dispatch/libertarian-bum-fights/

Ron Paul's ACTUAL legislative record (the opposite of civil libertarian): http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2007/11/ron-pauls-record-in-congress.html

Greenwald's Obama = Bush talking points are a product of Koch/Libertarian party talking points from a 2009 press release: http://www.lp.org/news/press-releases/libertarians-release-top-10-disasters-of-2009-obama-administration

In fact, all of your anti-Obama talking points are the product of right-wing Libertarians/Koch:
https://www.google.com/search?q=libertarian+pary+obama+%3D+bush&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=libertarian+party++press+release+obama+%3D+bush

You've been rat-ferked by white supremacists. (BTW, I could go on forever exposing Greenwald and his white supremacist pals here here, but you know, space is limited.)

Last thing: Dialog International: German-American: "Ron Paul and the Neo-Fascists":
http://www.dialoginternational.com/dialog_international/2011/12/ron-paul-and-the-neo-fascists.html

You're welcome.





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Is Glenn Greenwald a liar? [View all] DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 OP
I'll pass. I'm afraid that if I said what I thought, MineralMan Feb 2015 #1
Like grandma always said, don't look a gift bump in the mouth. Or something about like that. nt DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #2
Is that what your grandma said? MineralMan Feb 2015 #3
Our grandmothers should've run for office. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #4
My grandmother would have said, "To Hell with that noise." MineralMan Feb 2015 #5
Ha! Well done! Number23 Feb 2015 #47
He really make you look very bad, so I don't blame you. He has always been excellent at tearing sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #72
You are so right, Sabrina Oilwellian Feb 2015 #79
That's for sure. They made it a mission to go to his blog, and he let them, intending to be tough sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #80
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To determine the truthiness of one's journalism, Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #6
That would be choice #2. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #7
You mean the Public Service award that is awarded to organizations, Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #8
I thank you for participating. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #9
I was getting around to it. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #12
Thanks for the links. I'll address each. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #14
Great response! n/t davekriss Feb 2015 #24
Thank you, DisgustipatedinCA. Octafish Feb 2015 #27
Hmmm...it got awfully quiet out.... truebluegreen Feb 2015 #34
Ykcutnek went on an unexpected vacation. Puglover Feb 2015 #37
Outstanding! truebluegreen Feb 2015 #41
It takes more than a suspension to keep a true maverick down. QC Feb 2015 #59
! Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #60
Oh Bobbi Puglover Feb 2015 #64
Meh, it fits. Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #65
Honestly I don't have a thing against you. Puglover Feb 2015 #78
As is probably another of their darlings. Puglover Feb 2015 #61
Generating fascist anti-Americanism around the globe kfreed Jul 2015 #96
No surprise to see a hit piece from that Kos blogger. Are you familiar with the history of that sabrina 1 Feb 2015 #75
I thought the question was of truthfulness not truthiness which is a made up term to TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #63
+1 treestar Feb 2015 #74
He's an advocate. moondust Feb 2015 #10
Fair point. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #11
I'd probably call it "advocacy journalism." moondust Feb 2015 #13
why does advocate on behalf of scumbag terrorists like anwar al awlaki. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #17
I'll reply to you once I'm in front of a real keyboard. Thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #20
He repeatedly lied in his efforts to make Anwar Al-Awlaki a poor innocent geek tragedy Feb 2015 #15
Yep. nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #16
Greenwald is s a lying liar who lies. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #19
Where did Greenwald lie? Octafish Feb 2015 #25
I hadn't read that Greenwald article before. Thanks for brining it to my attention. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #29
That is an example of Greenwald lying. geek tragedy Feb 2015 #39
You need to completely read Greenwald's and Priest's articles. This is all addressed. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #40
Where did Priest write that the Obama administration tried to kill Awlaki in 2009? geek tragedy Feb 2015 #43
here you go: DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #46
That's a very weak defense of Greenwald's mendacity geek tragedy Feb 2015 #48
Doesn't really matter to me if he has lied a couple of times... NCTraveler Feb 2015 #18
He lied several times regarding his partner being held. I already posted links KittyWampus Feb 2015 #21
Greenwald is a liar by omission. Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #22
Fair enough. Now using that standard who are the honest journalists and media outlets? TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #62
You are correct Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #66
Let me simplify part 2. Do you assert there are politicians and business people that meet your TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #76
Is "ethically-challenged, self-aggrandizing prick" the same as "liar"? 11 Bravo Feb 2015 #23
No, not in this context or any other that I know of. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #31
I have no idea. To be honest I didn't really follow the whole Snowden/Greenwald saga. hrmjustin Feb 2015 #26
Who's Glenn Greenwald? nt. jschurchin Feb 2015 #28
Founding member of The Monkees, invented the corkscrew. Thanks. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #30
Thought that was Davey Nesmith or Mickey Tork? :P n/t Chan790 Feb 2015 #44
come to think of it, Tork (Torque?) would be a great name for the inventor of the corkscrew. nt DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #45
He's very careful to not quite lie. jeff47 Feb 2015 #32
I appreciate the answer. I disagree with your conclusion, but there's no denying he's an advocate. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #33
Greenwald lying by ommission (how propaganda works) kfreed Jul 2015 #102
running 97% to 3% thus far DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #35
"Greenwaaaaaaaaaald!!!" whatchamacallit Feb 2015 #36
LOL! Puglover Feb 2015 #38
Greenwald is an opinion writer and not a journalist. Chan790 Feb 2015 #42
It's kind of difficult to catch Greenwald in an outright lie Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #49
Your post seems very similar to post #32 DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #50
That's the problem with "advocacy journalism" Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #68
Haven't seen you kick this in awhile... Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #93
Sure. Post those links. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #94
Not difficult, just time-consuming to correct all of them kfreed Jul 2015 #99
A few more before leaving Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #51
r.e. the "out and out" lie DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #53
The onus is on Greenwald to *prove* it Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #55
Mahalo for all this compilation of GG's *********, Blue Tires! Cha Feb 2015 #91
I really don't know. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #52
Fair enough. Thank you for the reply. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #54
probably, 99.99% of humanity are liars to a degree. Shoulders of Giants Feb 2015 #56
We are all liars. And anyone who says otherwise.... Smarmie Doofus Feb 2015 #57
precisely! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #67
Why does an advocate get the right of omission and not telling Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #58
A few more... Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #69
Good job. ucrdem Feb 2015 #71
Thank you SO MUCH for these links. betsuni Feb 2015 #89
Bookmarking this OP just for your links. nt stevenleser Feb 2015 #90
yeppers. ucrdem Feb 2015 #70
In all seriousness -- 55 DUers say GG has never been caught in dishonesty? Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #73
Funny that Bobbie Jo Feb 2015 #77
Is Greenwald a liar? Not necessarily. PragmaticLiberal Feb 2015 #81
Monday kick Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #82
Don't hold your breath. Andy823 Feb 2015 #86
Um. No proof has been posted. That's kind of what this thread is about. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #88
It's always surprising when you see how few shriekers there actually are. Marr Feb 2015 #83
I considered out conversation concluded when you told me the onus is on Greenwald... DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #84
I think you have me confused with someone else. Marr Feb 2015 #85
I'm sorry, Marr. I meant to reply to Blue_Tires. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #87
Oh no need-- I thought it must be a mispost or something. /nt Marr Feb 2015 #92
We get it, the supporters of the national security state don't like Greenwald. BillZBubb Jul 2015 #101
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