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MADem

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165. No, no, no--not you at all.

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 09:48 AM

Jul 2015

It was nine years ago last May that this original event happened. I didn't know if there was an ongoing feud or what, but I was speculating that the subject was brought up as an anniversarial reference (e.g. remember when you did this all those years ago?) in a more recent dust up.

I'm not seeing the full context here--all I know is that someone posted a "throwback" reference to that Rove (non) event. I remember when that happened--there were a dozen or more long (well, dial-up or slow shitty DSL long) threads about this matter and at some point harsh words were exchanged.

When I first read the story, all those years ago, I was in the "naive hoper" category--I was wishing for Fitzmas along with a lot of others. It was a bitter disappointment to learn that the story was so horribly sourced and, basically, a load of fertilizer. The upside is that it dialed up my skepticism meter by a hundred-fold. I want several sources before I buy off on a major tale like that one, especially one that raises my hopes, and they'd better not be aggregated sources, either!

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A few years later? Like 9? Where the hell did that come 7wo7rees Jul 2015 #6

because he once said something impolite about the president Scootaloo Jul 2015 #9

Impolite? He used the same language Ted Nugent uses, and has doubled and tripled geek tragedy Jul 2015 #13

No, Ted Nugent tells Obama "suck on my machine gun" while brandishing an assault rifle Scootaloo Jul 2015 #17

They both called him a "piece of shit" geek tragedy Jul 2015 #22

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Us? See that is it right there, your little group of friends made this too obvious Rex Jul 2015 #358

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Right backatcha!!!! nt. polly7 Jul 2015 #153

That post doesnt make any sense at all. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #155

Really??? polly7 Jul 2015 #157

And your version of events is still incorrect. But please continue. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #160

BULLSHIT. nt. polly7 Jul 2015 #161

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Your post spoke for itself. polly7 Jul 2015 #251

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Stop pretending and playing the martyr, OK? You know exactly what you did. stevenleser Jul 2015 #261

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Standing with polly7. Right back at you Leser! nt 7wo7rees Jul 2015 #196

It doesn't matter if one or one thousand believe something wrong, it's still wrong. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #209

Agreed. One of DU's worst. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #200

Ouch! That arrow hit the mark! nt MADem Jul 2015 #169

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+1. nt MADem Jul 2015 #247

What Skittles said. Octafish Jul 2015 #172

Yup, DU is full of assholes...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #180

How do you define asshole, SidDithers of DU? Octafish Jul 2015 #202

No... SidDithers Jul 2015 #208

Is that why you use those terms to smear me? Octafish Jul 2015 #217

I said you promote homophobes, racists and anti-Semites, octafish of DU... SidDithers Jul 2015 #220

I quoted articles they wrote to shed light on Bush crimes. Octafish Jul 2015 #230

Except, according to your self professed principles, you can't call them crimes. No convictions. stevenleser Jul 2015 #241

That was a nice smear, ''rapist apologist,'' stevenleser. Octafish Jul 2015 #248

Then answer. Why do you treat accused rapists different from everyone else? stevenleser Jul 2015 #249

Like I wrote and you could not figure out: the point is Justice. Octafish Jul 2015 #278

And as several of us have pointed out, that supposed principle is unevenly applied. stevenleser Jul 2015 #300

Of course I have. Journalists do not call suspected rapists, ''rapist.'' Octafish Jul 2015 #325

What, you want links to posts where you're promoting PCR, or Madsen, or Bollyn?... SidDithers Jul 2015 #245

No need to. I just posted them in Reply #217. Octafish Jul 2015 #250

I never claimed you were wrong, octafish of DU... SidDithers Jul 2015 #254

A 'propensity.' Octafish Jul 2015 #269

Semantics... SidDithers Jul 2015 #301

Keep digging, SidDithers of DU. Octafish Jul 2015 #321

This message was self-deleted by its author Long Drive Jul 2015 #497

why.... thank you for the compliment sid......nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #506

the racist, anti-semetic and homophobic sources you constantly link to here are all total assholes bettyellen Aug 2015 #511

Yep, You can always tell when they pucker up. nt raouldukelives Jul 2015 #337

I didn't mean to say all conservatives are assholes.. Zorra Jul 2015 #194

May you grow a thousand more legs, mighty Skittles. You'll need them. n/t winter is coming Jul 2015 #205

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When did THAT become the norm? sibelian Jul 2015 #399

They act like big game hunters Generic Other Jul 2015 #317

yep n/t n2doc Jul 2015 #346

Skittles cuts out all the unnessessary words and gets to the core of the matter. Rex Jul 2015 #359

You're so correct and a lot of them wear it with pride. neverforget Jul 2015 #392

Marry me! Marrah_G Jul 2015 #466

Results of your jury, dear Skittles Generic Other Jul 2015 #495

typical Skittles Jul 2015 #500

Yes indeed. Owl Jul 2015 #499

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Once the critical mass has been acheived... sibelian Jul 2015 #406

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From which side? dbackjon Jul 2015 #403

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Actually, I have seen it worse at times still_one Jul 2015 #54

Kentuck had at least one post this morning? question everything Jul 2015 #40

I guess someone better let Kentuck know, because everyone else in this thread seems to still_one Jul 2015 #55

Tonight's Kentuck post..... Elwood P Dowd Jul 2015 #62

That's Pitt's not Kentuck's... (nt) question everything Jul 2015 #211

Wait for the page to load Go Vols Jul 2015 #292

Thanks. Many posts there question everything Jul 2015 #391

Based on past history, I'd say that William Pitt will be back after a hiatus. Crunchy Frog Jul 2015 #41

Or after sleeping it off. n/t JTFrog Jul 2015 #225

Apparently, Will Pitt had his feelings hurt because of an old post someone dredged up. cwydro Jul 2015 #43

One of two things should happen IMO LiberalElite Jul 2015 #85

Succinctly put. nt cwydro Jul 2015 #91

Pitt has a few other issues than just being wrong about Rove mythology Jul 2015 #207

Excellent, universally applicable advice... Surya Gayatri Jul 2015 #87

yes, but I have to give kudos for the drama on this one Jersey Devil Jul 2015 #96

Over/under on the return thread is 260 recs alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #124

I wouldn't bet against that!! MADem Jul 2015 #176

Good grief people I go on vacation and people freak and leave DU underpants Jul 2015 #86

You know what, though? There is something about you that I STILL MISS!!!!!! MADem Jul 2015 #181

We just fall apart when we lose our underpants Oilwellian Jul 2015 #184

So they can bask in all the attention being paid to them. Codeine Jul 2015 #89

+1...nt SidDithers Jul 2015 #95

This has gotta happen every 5 years or so Jersey Devil Jul 2015 #94

Going to the mattresses? CTyankee Jul 2015 #100

You could also work "Ground Hog Day" into this one Jersey Devil Jul 2015 #105

I always miss the drama. CTyankee Jul 2015 #106

With meatballs, it's gravy. Ask any Italian who makes pasta and Sunday gravy. merrily Jul 2015 #108

Ah, yes. Gravy. CTyankee Jul 2015 #114

L'ombra lo sa! n/t DFW Jul 2015 #121

non lo so... CTyankee Jul 2015 #126

Bisogno domandare all'ombra! DFW Jul 2015 #131

io non domando... CTyankee Jul 2015 #139

My mom was Sicilian, she was the first generation born in the US. None of her family ever called seaglass Jul 2015 #127

I dunno. In Joisey it ain't gravy unless you add leftover pork chops or a piece of leftover steak Jersey Devil Jul 2015 #119

Brooklyn says Joisey. Joisey don't (sic) say it that way. Most of the Italians I know, merrily Jul 2015 #128

Well, my Dad used to say Boigenfield (Bergenfield), "Joisey" and would change the "earl" in his car Jersey Devil Jul 2015 #380

I have seen folks put a piece of a pork chop in the gravy and I think the bone CTyankee Jul 2015 #129

And when it's made with cornflakes, what's it called then? JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2015 #341

I give up, merrily Jul 2015 #348

My decision to revert to lurker status here deutsey Jul 2015 #112

Not here since 2001, but it sure has gone downhill since I joined. merrily Jul 2015 #132

Yes x 10. Thanks for stepping into the fray. 7wo7rees Jul 2015 #206

I have missed your voice Generic Other Jul 2015 #316

Thank you! deutsey Jul 2015 #470

Here's something I posted on DU of old, a loooong time ago, back when I was "baby_mouse"... sibelian Jul 2015 #331

Because this website... sibelian Jul 2015 #113

No, it's not. cwydro Jul 2015 #117

Yeah, not like it is these days. sibelian Jul 2015 #318

Nah, just the Primary cycle... JCMach1 Jul 2015 #215

Nah, there have been toxic posters stinking up the place consistently since I've been here. Maedhros Jul 2015 #298

A mob. Though some aspects of a relentless Greek Chorus are also present. merrily Jul 2015 #320

Less a mob, more a tribe. Maedhros Jul 2015 #333

This is no ordinary Primary cycle. sibelian Jul 2015 #398

They'll be back. One of them took some time off right after the last election, B Calm Jul 2015 #122

Asked but never answered. It's a mystery! randome Jul 2015 #125

Kentuck is progressive ? I didn't know that? treestar Jul 2015 #136

Kentuck will be a major loss to this community. Will be missed. nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #137

I think Kentuck was jesting in that thread. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #138

Wasn't his possible departure phrased in the form of a question? MADem Jul 2015 #195

Kentuck often posed things as rhetorical questions Armstead Jul 2015 #304

I will miss Kentuck. n/t tabasco Jul 2015 #150

Have they ever come off as self-absorbed flighty creative personalities with hurt feelings? Android3.14 Jul 2015 #167

Close the thread. Codeine Jul 2015 #197

All that's needed is a couple of "appreciation" threads with hundreds MineralMan Jul 2015 #233

The 'creative' part extends to liberally peppering one's posts with 'fuck' and 'shit'. randome Jul 2015 #236

Yep, Andy823 Jul 2015 #280

Kentuck is definetly NOT that Armstead Jul 2015 #289

They are welcome to return, the sooner the better. I understand their frustration and disappointment leveymg Jul 2015 #170

The more this website becomes a Rightwing/"Centrist" safe haven, the more people will leave. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #204

They seem not to want the left here at all Generic Other Jul 2015 #338

That seems to be the objective of a cadre of posters LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #343

Pitt was due for his annual temper tantrum theboss Jul 2015 #212

Will Pitt has left DU more times than I have fingers (and possibly toes) JCMach1 Jul 2015 #213

I don't get why people still fall for this routine theboss Jul 2015 #216

It's just Will JCMach1 Jul 2015 #221

Where there's a will, there's drama. Orrex Jul 2015 #257

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jul 2015 #218

DU has never pretended to be a news source, but a community... a community that reverts to a den of JCMach1 Jul 2015 #222

+1 merrily Jul 2015 #323

Pitt leaves every couple of years ... Myrina Jul 2015 #223

Perhaps the time has come avebury Jul 2015 #228

Want them to come back? Well, just start an "Appreciation Thread." MineralMan Jul 2015 #235

I read Will Pitt's postings to see what people were talking about three days ago. Orrex Jul 2015 #242

You could go to Alternet Capt. Obvious Jul 2015 #282

SHort version, because we have a school yard nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #279

probably because of crap like this. I would have deleted if some one had the decency to ask me Hiraeth Jul 2015 #285

Totally bogus hide. You posted his BUSINESS info, not his personal info. Coventina Jul 2015 #291

Thank you, Coventina for noticing the difference. Hiraeth Jul 2015 #309

No. DIFFERENCE. He is not a "public figure." He's a frigging dentist. MADem Jul 2015 #349

I did read the TOS: private/personal is NOT business info. Coventina Jul 2015 #351

Bullshit--police officers are "public servants." What did you think that MADem Jul 2015 #353

I didn't post the guy's information. I was only saying the poster who did got a bogus hide. Coventina Jul 2015 #354

YOU keep AVOIDING my question--would you like it? Would you want someone here who MADem Jul 2015 #356

OK fine, I wouldn't like it. But I am not a criminal either. If I were to commit a horrible crime Coventina Jul 2015 #357

We have a TOS here for good reason--it's because we're not animals. MADem Jul 2015 #363

People have been murdered in that way long before the internet existed. If some whack-a-doodle Coventina Jul 2015 #366

You are enabling bad behavior with your endorsement of this--can't you see that? MADem Jul 2015 #368

He posted the pictures HIMSELF! He comitted the crime. He chose to brag about said crime Coventina Jul 2015 #370

He didn't post his business address, his profession, and his telephone number, MADem Jul 2015 #372

I don't think you have to worry about the good dentist. If he was worried about his safety, Coventina Jul 2015 #373

I think you are being deliberately obtuse. And, as it turns out, you ARE wrong. MADem Jul 2015 #379

No, I understand your point, I just don't happen to agree with it. Coventina Jul 2015 #384

Well, the admins don't agree with you. So you'd better slow that roll. MADem Jul 2015 #385

I did take a look at it, thanks! Coventina Jul 2015 #388

I'm honestly not sure if that would be considered against the TOS or not. I wonder if Skinner would stevenleser Jul 2015 #367

It would be good to get clarification. Coventina Jul 2015 #369

Looks like Skinner thinks this was a nono. See link... stevenleser Jul 2015 #381

His reply still seems to indicate a gray area, although he deleted the post in question. Coventina Jul 2015 #386

This message was self-deleted by its author Orrex Jul 2015 #294

His same info is in another thread about this subject. cwydro Jul 2015 #295

IDK but, it would only be fair. I am not on here enough to keep on with all this. Thanks. Hiraeth Jul 2015 #307

i juried a different post that included the contact info fizzgig Jul 2015 #319

I can't understand why. We post business contact info here all the time. Coventina Jul 2015 #324

Maybe those particular jurors enjoy the hunting of sanctuary animals... cwydro Jul 2015 #339

It will be whack-a-mole. That info. is getting out. The more they hide, the more it will be posted. Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #328

That was ridiculous. That info. is all over the Internet. Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #326

Juror #1, YOU should be banned. Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #327

I posted an "Ask the Administrator" about this post because I honestly am not sure. stevenleser Jul 2015 #376

Skinner apparently agrees this post violated that portion of the TOS. stevenleser Jul 2015 #382

All someone had to do was ask me. Hiraeth Jul 2015 #393

Yeah, that doesn't seem fair. I wouldn't have known, like I said. stevenleser Jul 2015 #397

Thanks for understanding. Hiraeth Jul 2015 #449

DUs expert concern trolls seem to be really busy lately trying to run people off. Rex Jul 2015 #330

they have made up their minds. Time to move on. All the best to them. nt kelliekat44 Jul 2015 #344

DU has be ome Rolling Stone Magazine olddots Jul 2015 #402

I'm worried... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #419

I just noticed how perfectly formed my naval is XRubicon Jul 2015 #411

Naval .... vessel? A destroyer? An aircraft carrier? A submarine? MADem Jul 2015 #475

Thanks for the spell check XRubicon Jul 2015 #480

.......... MADem Jul 2015 #481

After reading through this thread and sub-threads Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #430

I hope Pitt comes back soon. 840high Jul 2015 #455

I don't think so Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #469

The Democratic party is splitting up. Betty Karlson Jul 2015 #457

I'd question how many of us still visit the same websites Fearless Jul 2015 #456

In a nutshell... malokvale77 Jul 2015 #503

Yeah, I mean only 98% of people are Sanders supporters. NuclearDem Aug 2015 #510