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TeddyR

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86. So

Tue Jul 28, 2015, 01:13 PM

Jul 2015

First, referring to someone as a "gun fetishist" or "gun nut" isn't going to make them inclined to listen to you. Setting that aside, I agree with some of your proposals -- like instant background checks for all sales -- but disagree with others because they don't do anything at all to address the problem (violence in America). For example, what is a "military weapon"? The AR-15 you can purchase from your local gun store isn't an automatic weapon but simply a fancy looking rifle with potentially large capacity magazine. And why a 10 round limit? Why not 15 or 5? I'd actually be ok with a 20-30 limit but don't think that any type of limit is going to have an impact. Also not sure I agree with your proposal that someone with a past mental illness should never be allowed to own a gun. For example, are you going to permanently ban former military members with a past diagnosis of PTSD from ever owning a firearm? What about someone who was treated for depression during a divorce of following the death of a loved one?

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The Rude Pundit - American Has Become a Second Amendment Death Cult [View all] meegbear Jul 2015 OP

I wish HassleCat Jul 2015 #1

Private individuals owning guns awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #36

And look at all the wonderful things the MIC has brought us. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #50

True, they need scaled back awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #72

America already has a massive Militia - armed with 320 million guns....illegally because where is the "well regulated" part?? Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #69

And the 2nd Amendment Death Eaters Are the Equivalent of Climate Deniers villager Jul 2015 #2

it's a great freedom dontcha know! Skittles Jul 2015 #6

I often wonder whether families whose beloved guns end up killing their child or other loved one tblue37 Jul 2015 #14

honestly, I think they are too stupid to "rethink" Skittles Jul 2015 #41

+1 2naSalit Jul 2015 #76

+1 Just like anyone who profits from the death and assured suffering of others. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #74

"revisit it to clarify or change"? louis-t Jul 2015 #3

In America it's all about $$$$$'s. Guns + ammunition = big $$$$$'s. So, it becomes cult behavior as RKP5637 Jul 2015 #4

This is really some of his finest writing n/t n2doc Jul 2015 #5

Yes, it is. And preferable by a degree to the ruder writings. Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #8

The lack of rudeness demonstrates Jeff Murdoch Jul 2015 #15

Totally agree angel823 Jul 2015 #17

Human history shows that each death cult is eventually overthrown ... by another death cult -- nt Freelancer Jul 2015 #7

This is a very well written piece, made stronger by his restraint mnhtnbb Jul 2015 #9

His best yet matt819 Jul 2015 #10

Outstanding work. Way to go, Rudester. (nt) Paladin Jul 2015 #11

the NRA's 5 million members and the Gun Manufacturer's are way more important NoMoreRepugs Jul 2015 #12

This is his best essay by far steve2470 Jul 2015 #13

Is it really about the children? Really? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #25

........ daleanime Jul 2015 #27

I guess children only count when killed by guns? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #28

If you want to make guesses.... daleanime Jul 2015 #32

It's been 2.6 years since Adam Lanza killed 20 children Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #35

"It's hard to attribute any sense of seriousness...." daleanime Jul 2015 #38

You make that claim while dismissing 11,000 lives over 20. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #40

Where are you getting that 11k number from? Because at most I'm finding 4.5k riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #45

4,300 x the 2.6 years since Sandy Hook Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #51

You're going after daleanime with bogus numbers - trying to compare riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #90

How many people are killed by semi-auto long guns yet it serves as the fixation for Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #91

And you guys have scarfed up millions more gunz that we will have to deal with sooner or later. Hoyt Jul 2015 #52

Disregard for society? Or disregard for police who aren't good for anything much more than Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #54

So now you are going to use your gunz to protect us from the police. NO THANKS and BS. Hoyt Jul 2015 #55

Derp! What a great way of summarizing something I never said. Deal with your incompetent goons Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #59

Plenty of ways to protect yourself without loading up on gunz and ammo. Hoyt Jul 2015 #62

But what about high capacity bean cans? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #63

Worked for me. You just can't believe people don't need a gun to sleep with, go to the store, Hoyt Jul 2015 #68

Cool story, bro. And then what happened? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #71

Why don't you tell us about using one of your many gunz to protect yourself, or intimidate others, Hoyt Jul 2015 #73

I don't have a story. I hope to never have one but that doesn't mean violent predators are myths. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #75

So in other words, you've been hoarding guns, carrying them, and promoting them, yet Hoyt Jul 2015 #79

Have I been hoarding guns? How many guns do I own, Hoyt? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #82

"I have a problem with cowboy, police wannabes..." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #77

We are talking about gunners playing Zimmerman and cowboys. Hoyt Jul 2015 #81

The police are the problem. How come you grabbers never appeal to the timeliness and conpentency of Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #84

You are a problem too. Next thing, you'll try to shift attention from ypur gun fixation to global Hoyt Jul 2015 #87

"showing off your latest lethal weapons acquisition" Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #88

You make a great point hueymahl Jul 2015 #64

underaged drinking is against the law treestar Jul 2015 #66

For this country, it is steve2470 Jul 2015 #29

The terms "common sense" and "reasonable" have become weasel words in the mouths of the Controllers. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #33

#33 sasquuatch55 Jul 2015 #48

USC Title 10, Section 311 Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #49

Exactly Krytan11c Jul 2015 #39

America libodem Jul 2015 #16

Idiot religion and incessant propaganda hifiguy Jul 2015 #34

Agree! libodem Jul 2015 #37

Religion has been an incredibly powerful tool of control by the powerful for centuries, Arugula Latte Jul 2015 #99

Sshhhh, stop being accurate shenmue Jul 2015 #42

Of course, that's if they have the money to go to the movie theater to be murdered, or are young and jtuck004 Jul 2015 #18

The rude one and I definitely share a brain on this one. nt stevenleser Jul 2015 #19

Um... beevul Jul 2015 #20

CDC says 88,000 a year from alcohol. Indydem Jul 2015 #23

Alcohol has a purpose outside of killing. Used responsibly it causes little problem. CBGLuthier Jul 2015 #57

Blah blah blah. Indydem Jul 2015 #61

I own several melm00se Jul 2015 #67

So guns cannot be used responsibly? hack89 Jul 2015 #95

And that number (10,000 gun murders per year) is about 50% lower than it was 25 years ago NickB79 Jul 2015 #24

The CDC is not allowed to study gun violence, per the gun nuts in Congress. alarimer Jul 2015 #56

Ipso facto not true as a gun control advocate cited CDC gun stats to me up-thread. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #60

"the United States is now a death cult built around the worship of guns." Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #21

sometimes I think that not only have we bbgrunt Jul 2015 #22

"A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free State." Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #26

The RP is more spot-on than he suspects. Check music videos: filled with death-cult imagery. Check WinkyDink Jul 2015 #30

NS, Sherlocks here, that people die from other causes. What's your point---that therefore we WinkyDink Jul 2015 #31

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #43

Brilliant. Thank you, fellow Southerner, for being a voice of reason. n/t FourScore Jul 2015 #44

Yep. It's a death cult. hunter Jul 2015 #46

"If we continue to do nothing, we are all mentally ill" n/t handmade34 Jul 2015 #47

Best Rude Pundit post ever (to me anyway) rurallib Jul 2015 #53

Excellent post Rudie malaise Jul 2015 #58

Why can't we have a War on Guns? That way the bloodythirsty ammosexuals can valerief Jul 2015 #65

The 15 billion a year spent on the War on Drugs could easily be slid over for the War on Guns. nt onehandle Jul 2015 #70

Because the majority of Americans TeddyR Jul 2015 #83

Most people don't have or want guns. Ignored forever. nt valerief Jul 2015 #93

Never happen -- sorry. This is America's lot, and we have to deal with it. Maybe gun-free zones? Freelancer Jul 2015 #85

You've convinced me we need a WAR on GUNS, especially since most valerief Jul 2015 #94

What about my honest reply deserves an "ignore forever"? I don't get this forum sometimes. -- nt Freelancer Jul 2015 #98

Let us know when YOU or your child(ren) sign up to fight in that "war", mmkay? friendly_iconoclast Jul 2015 #106

You call for a war but blame others for being bloodthirsty? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #108

I can see from your favorite group what you value most, and it ain't safety. Ignored forever. nt valerief Jul 2015 #109

Ignored forever = ran away forever Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #110

This is a particularly good one, RP. n/t DirkGently Jul 2015 #78

Gun fetishist rule this country. lark Jul 2015 #80

So TeddyR Jul 2015 #86

Yeah, true about the names. That's my frustration with so many unnecessary gun deaths. lark Jul 2015 #97

I love the fact that he's pissing off the ammosexuals in D.U. d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #89

Guns are regulated as well but you know that. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #92

If you're talking about army guns and clips d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #100

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Hemenway? Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #115

Guns are regulated hack89 Jul 2015 #96

Sure they are. That's why the Assault Rifle Ban was renewed! d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #101

So gun regulation starts and ends with the AWB? hack89 Jul 2015 #103

Never said that it starts with the AWB d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #105

You are wrong hack89 Jul 2015 #107

The CT AWB was molded after the Federal AWB and d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #113

Addressing reality while we try to change it... Freelancer Jul 2015 #104

the RP lost me melm00se Jul 2015 #116