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sabrina 1

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266. I didn't, but could probably guess who and what was involved. No need to pollute

Wed Jul 29, 2015, 04:36 PM

Jul 2015

one's mind when it isn't necessary. I like this thread, and the people who have contributed. More like the old DU as I remember it.

I haven't used ignore, for the same reasons, but have developed a way of skipping past those who I know will add nothing of value to discussions. Sometimes as in this case, I am glad I stopped and read something I normally would have passed by.

DUers like WP, who has his faults as we all do, deserve better than what that OP intended.

The price of speaking out against the status quo can be high. Which is why most of us don't go outside our safe places.

But I do feel obligated to support those who do go public with the truth, as WP did re that Bush war criminals, while others were consorting with the 'enemy'.

Thank you for comments, I appreciate them.

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A Sincere Tribute To DUers Who Kept US Sane During the Bush Era. Will Pitt For One. Add Others! [View all] sabrina 1 Jul 2015 OP

i think with all these appreaciation threads, the medium is becoming the message HFRN Jul 2015 #1

I think you are right, but when people see a good DUer being mocked sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #7

I see no reason to delete ybbor Jul 2015 #29

Just to be clear, the only reason I posted this one, and I believe others who sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #52

I had no idea ybbor Jul 2015 #133

Thank you, deception and 'carefully chosen words' in order to further deceive has always sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #146

If that's the case, and I'm now thinking that it was, I was fooled Babel_17 Jul 2015 #156

It was the case, I'm sorry. The words were 'carefully chosen' a quote from the author of sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #160

It was a mocking. Thank 840high Jul 2015 #197

It was a mocking. Change has come Jul 2015 #201

Seeing WP go probably ranks as one of his highlights, OnyxCollie Jul 2015 #218

I would call it Meta, since it was intended as such. And for a host, didn't know that btw, to sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #236

Yes, by a host, which makes it all the more appalling. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #257

You're very concerned about this topic. Change has come Jul 2015 #195

and you seem very concerned about me HFRN Jul 2015 #222

I agree with Change. For someone who doesn't know anyone here, you do seem to have developed sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #234

well, if 2 agree, that's a consensus HFRN Jul 2015 #237

Actually no, we don't have a bond. We share an opinion, that is all. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #247

an opinion, in and of itself, can be a bond nt HFRN Jul 2015 #250

And, as in the case of Change and me, we do not have a bond, we share an opinion as I sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #269

'I'll leave you to your own devices.' HFRN Jul 2015 #270

And tiptonic Jul 2015 #265

Yes, RIP Bartcop! He was a shining light during those dark times. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #289

catwoman, UTUSN, Octafish, nothingshocksmeanymore, bobdadrumma, SwampRat, karynnj, ProSense, blm Jul 2015 #2

Thank you, I remember every one of them and always made sure to read their sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #3

The primary threads are turning into a major paininthe@ss�. blm Jul 2015 #38

Yes, they are. I want to spend that energy promoting the person I think is best sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #82

I miss SwampRat. nt awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #56

Me too! His images were worth the words of 1,000 others MadLinguist Jul 2015 #152

I loved his work...miss him too! nt haikugal Jul 2015 #253

re: "bobdadrumma" and ProSense, you're trolling here? Electric Monk Jul 2015 #182

No - I don't troll. blm Jul 2015 #228

Thank you for adding all of those familiar names. And Bartcop. So sad to learn sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #259

K&R... MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #4

I second that emotion! BeanMusical Jul 2015 #86

And I third that. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #185

Yes! BeanMusical Jul 2015 #5

Khephra. n/t 11 Bravo Jul 2015 #6

Thank you. He pretty much WAS Late Breaking News. I read his posts before joining DU sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #10

Yeah, he was a fave. I also forgot newyawker99 ... 11 Bravo Jul 2015 #14

Yes, another great one. People used to do that then, welcome you to DU. I sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #19

kef and ny�.. blm Jul 2015 #39

She was so good Nite Owl Jul 2015 #205

+1! arcane1 Jul 2015 #84

I had come to DU in October of 2004 with high hopes that John Kerry would be CTyankee Jul 2015 #8

That was the year I first discovered DU, the night of the election, I followed a link sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #16

Kerry Did Win billhicks76 Jul 2015 #110

Yes, he did and we watched them change the numbers on TV. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #111

Saw It With My Own Eyes Too billhicks76 Jul 2015 #113

All I can do is return the compliment, I have always known you to be honest sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #114

I remember sitting in the MIRC chat room that night Marrah_G Jul 2015 #281

Ditto to everything you said. progressoid Jul 2015 #37

I honestly don't know how we managed emotionally...do you? CTyankee Jul 2015 #42

Exercise was probably a good idea. progressoid Jul 2015 #67

+1000 . . . Thank you! Faryn Balyncd Jul 2015 #9

Skinner, EarlG, Elad and the Plaid Adder for giving us DU TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #11

Plaid Adder, yes, one of the names I looked for always. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #18

Plaid Adder and WillPitt lapfog_1 Jul 2015 #34

Meant to acknowledge Weighliftinglady who I remember also. Don't know sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #199

I miss her too. Javaman Jul 2015 #223

She is doing very well Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #224

Thank you, that's good to know ... sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #248

That's really good to know Marrah_G Jul 2015 #282

She is pretty amazing. n/t Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #287

Don't leave us! libodem Jul 2015 #12

Don't you leave either! I'm not going anywhere, unless of course I am sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #20

. libodem Jul 2015 #232

Many I would mention have passed on The Straight Story Jul 2015 #13

K&R JEB Jul 2015 #15

So much this^^^ hifiguy Jul 2015 #275

Jeb, another great DUer, Autumn, Aerows ... kind, thoughtful and sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #276

K&R! In_The_Wind Jul 2015 #17

Will Pitt liberal from boston Jul 2015 #27

Will Pitt did a lot to keep me sane over the years. I'll be watching for his return. In_The_Wind Jul 2015 #35

nostjam Lars39 Jul 2015 #21

nostamj LWolf Jul 2015 #68

I knew that didn't look right somehow. Lars39 Jul 2015 #71

Forkboy and Swamp Rat Flying Squirrel Jul 2015 #22

Swamp Rat. Does anyone know what happened to him? He never said why he left. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #24

Swamprat's neon graphics always brightened up a thread! progressoid Jul 2015 #41

Here is a utube montage depicting the Bush 'crime family' with Swamp Rat's sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #47

Wow, that's really cool! BeanMusical Jul 2015 #60

Another Oilwellian great: PeoViejo Jul 2015 #76

OMG...that's one of the first videos I did... Oilwellian Jul 2015 #90

I think it is a great video. Not being technical at all, I don't see what you probably see. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #95

Thank you, Sabrina Oilwellian Jul 2015 #104

Thank you Oilwellian. It is nice to go back and remember all those great DUers. Honest, sincere sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #150

The last I remember of Swampy... Oilwellian Jul 2015 #176

I hope he made it to Brazil also. I'm sure wherever he is, it's interesting. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #178

He is brilliant. nt haikugal Jul 2015 #254

+1000 for SwampRat!! HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #115

I remember that, and hoped he really was okay. Wish he would check in again. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #118

yes G_j Jul 2015 #32

Forkboy is a blast from the past. ozone_man Jul 2015 #144

Forkboy is one of my favorites Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #145

I really enjoyed Forkboy's posts. WorseBeforeBetter Jul 2015 #200

I miss them all too. bvar22 Jul 2015 #23

bvar and Octafish and Woo and so many others. I do understand why DU's best are moving on sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #26

Octafish has left?! Please tell me it's just a joke. And a shame to lose Will and Kentuck too. nt Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #51

No, Octafish is still here, thankfully. I was referring to the OP sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #53

Thanks sabrina! Some nasty people have come here over the years for sure. Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #55

Yes, it was a great Progressive Site back then. I despise deception and see no reason for it. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #89

I miss them too. It can never be the same here again. I am so grateful for all that I have learned Mnemosyne Jul 2015 #171

That's very nice of you to say Mnemosyne. You are one of my favorite DUers also. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #206

Excluding Manny and yourself, you just listed my three other favorite DU posters. Efilroft Sul Jul 2015 #177

That is very nice of you to say, Efilroft Sul. Thank you! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #180

I adore all of them as well Oilwellian Jul 2015 #181

This thread deserves a link to (the 1st) Seven Days Underground by Skinner TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #25

Lol, I love this part: sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #44

Wow, thanks for that link. It's like time travel. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #63

SwampG8r, W.C.Green, GoddessofGuiness. TexasProgresive Jul 2015 #28

OMG, W.C.Green...RIP dear sir...how we loved you... CTyankee Jul 2015 #43

I separated those who left and those who died. blm Jul 2015 #124

WCGreen was the voice of calm and intelligent discussions, always. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2015 #73

Yes, WCGreen. Another great DUer, like yourself as someone below stated. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #97

You've been a great friend to him, a great comfort to him and his family. merrily Jul 2015 #210

I agree with you,sabrina 1. gademocrat7 Jul 2015 #30

Tinoire -- Hell Hath No Fury Jul 2015 #31

Willy T, Woo Me With Science, bvar of course H20 Man, Tinoire, yes and Proud Patriot sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #49

TINOIRE - absolutely adored that fine lady. blm Jul 2015 #126

She is one of the names I remember when I first came here. She was a sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #198

Tinoire LWolf Jul 2015 #66

Right back at ya! arcane1 Jul 2015 #87

All of those and Eloriel hedda_foil Jul 2015 #190

Yes, we ordinary people did know they were lying. And you are right, a lot of important work sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #207

Very well said Hedda...I remember! We CAN do this!! haikugal Jul 2015 #256

Sid Dithers, Nance Greggs, EarlG, Prosense. Dr Hobbitstein Jul 2015 #33

+1 n/t JTFrog Jul 2015 #109

H2O Man, G_j Jul 2015 #36

Yes, definitely H20 Man, mentioned him in the OP. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #50

Jackpine Radical. Zorra Jul 2015 #40

Yes, I really miss him a lot. He was so thoughtful, smart and witty and RIGHT sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #149

Opihimoimoi Octafish Jul 2015 #45

Will was most helpful to me, providing links, etc. when I first came onboard, 2002. oasis Jul 2015 #57

Opihimoimoi. Great pic. He was an excellent host to Hawaii DUers. oasis Jul 2015 #65

Great to read you, oasis! Octafish Jul 2015 #88

Greetings and well wishes to you Octafish. oasis Jul 2015 #100

geez�oasis�haven't seen you in ages�. blm Jul 2015 #130

I recently returned to DU after retiring again not to long ago. oasis Jul 2015 #135

heheheh�... blm Jul 2015 #138

That's the ticket. Again, glad to see your still an oasis Jul 2015 #141

That's my trigger since the 80s�.. "Bush". blm Jul 2015 #142

What a wonderful story, Octafish. I am so glad you got to go meet him. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #119

((Opi)) blm Jul 2015 #129

ah yes, opi shanti Jul 2015 #85

Opihimoimoi has passed. Octafish Jul 2015 #94

oh no! shanti Jul 2015 #99

I just read your post down thread that Opi passed away Octafish! What sad news. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #105

Oh my - what a blast to read his name again!!!! blm Jul 2015 #128

Love Octafish! Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #147

Awwww... I miss him! calimary Jul 2015 #191

DURec leftstreet Jul 2015 #46

Thanks sabrina for your post with so much heart. nt 7wo7rees Jul 2015 #48

oneighty ornotna Jul 2015 #54

Thank you for that, ornotna. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #208

oneighty passed in 06 ornotna Jul 2015 #240

I'm so sorry. That is two sad passings of DUers I have learned about sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #246

K&R. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #58

So many who used to do the research Generic Other Jul 2015 #59

Speaking of which.. PeoViejo Jul 2015 #120

In recent years I switched to GOTV activist�. blm Jul 2015 #132

That is what DU should be about Generic Other Jul 2015 #139

Kick for truth sabrina. hifiguy Jul 2015 #61

Great post, sabrina 1! Thank you! City Lights Jul 2015 #62

Catwoman, Matcom, IrateCitizen, Estimated Prophet DinahMoeHum Jul 2015 #64

K&R nt riderinthestorm Jul 2015 #69

Will is a DU staple. Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #70

K&R! Thank you Sabrina 1. Owl Jul 2015 #72

Thank You, Sabrina 1, because your post is True about why Will Pitt has and deserves support! KoKo Jul 2015 #74

Thank you for your post. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #77

Thank you Koko, you are another DUer who brought people TO DU during those awful times sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #79

You're a shining gem on DU, Koko Oilwellian Jul 2015 #184

Thank you for your posts. You are another of the greats here. Sad that a small handful can ruin it rhett o rick Jul 2015 #186

YES!!!! Thank you KoKo! nt haikugal Jul 2015 #258

I rarely post anymore because so many of those posters who kept me sane then are gone. robertpaulsen Jul 2015 #75

((robert)) blm Jul 2015 #131

Hey! You too! robertpaulsen Jul 2015 #271

Robert Paulson, a name I loved to see because I knew I was going to learn something sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #211

Thanks sabrina, that really touched me. robertpaulsen Jul 2015 #272

I just got some time to read your link. The 10th anniversary of the Plame outing. All I can say sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #280

This message was self-deleted by its author PeaceNikki Jul 2015 #78

K & R deurbano Jul 2015 #80

Wasn't The Magistrate here then? I miss him. nt Nay Jul 2015 #81

Yes, I haven't seen him around for a while. I hope he is okay. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #83

I miss Magistrate. NuclearDem Jul 2015 #101

CaliforniaPeggy! And she still does. pnwmom Jul 2015 #91

Oh yes, California Peggy, definitely. She is such a kind person and definitely makes DU sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #96

Peggy rocks underpants Jul 2015 #162

So many no longer with us. :( Solly Mack Jul 2015 #92

Yes, I remember the first time we heard that someone we had come to know online sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #102

Solly and annabanana are two of the most solid minds posting here�. blm Jul 2015 #136

Annabanana, who is still here I believe, and I think Solly also. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #249

Just remembering back to a whole other time here at DU. blm Jul 2015 #262

This venue saved my sanity realFedUp Jul 2015 #93

Those truly were the worst years ever. samplegirl Jul 2015 #98

Now this is a REAL appreciation thread. LaurenG Jul 2015 #103

I thought a SINCERE Tribute from people who mean it, was needed. Thank you sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #107

I have to give kudos to Nance Greggs LiberalLovinLug Jul 2015 #106

Yes...a warrior against Bush Gloria Jul 2015 #127

jiacinto forevah! alcibiades_mystery Jul 2015 #108

Well when you put it THAT way... chknltl Jul 2015 #112

nadinbrzezinski is another DUer who brings so much to the forum. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #116

So are you EOM nadinbrzezinski Jul 2015 #137

Newyawker99 for welcoming each newbie and acknowledging birthdays and livetohike Jul 2015 #117

Someone described her as DU's Den Mother. Always kind and welcoming. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #155

I think I read she passed. Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #277

Oh no, I hope that is not true. I just came across one of her posts while following a link sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #278

Well I hope she is doing well Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #279

Kick and R BeanMusical Jul 2015 #121

What a magnificent post malaise Jul 2015 #122

Thank you malaise, another DUer who makes it worthwhile to still come here. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #123

I had the honor of being in the acknowledgment of his book on Iraq Gloria Jul 2015 #125

Thanks for contributing so much to helping get the truth out. It was so hard to do sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #154

I found DU because of Will Pitt Skittles Jul 2015 #134

I think a lot of people found DU because of him. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #151

I did too. Actually on Free Republic underpants Jul 2015 #161

Catherina, Tahiti-nut, FFerrari, Scarletwoman, Dixxxiechick, to name a few. Tierra_y_Libertad Jul 2015 #140

Yes, Catherina, EFerrari, I still see here on Social Media, doing a great job sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #143

EFerrari is on Facebook Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #148

I miss Catherina hifiguy Jul 2015 #274

tonight in class NJCher Jul 2015 #153

Excellent recommendation. People should read this book now as it all turned out to be true. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #158

yes it did NJCher Jul 2015 #159

Yes, they did get him in the end. He was on the Donahue Show sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #204

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #157

Right There With You, Uncle Joe !!! - And Yes... Thanks Sabrina !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #163

WillyT!! Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #166

You're welcome underpants Jul 2015 #164

Lol, yes, I noticed your, em, unusual name when I first logged on to DU. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #168

You too sabrina1 underpants Jul 2015 #172

I don't log on that often anymore unapatriciated Jul 2015 #165

Thank you. It was THAT deceptive OP that prompted this one. I felt, and I see other DUers sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #174

Didn't always agree with will but understand unapatriciated Jul 2015 #175

Andy Stephenson. <3 coffeenap Jul 2015 #167

Andy, yes. I remember Andy. I had not been here for more than a year, when sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #169

YES !!! WillyT Jul 2015 #173

Kicked and recommended! Thank you, Sabrina! Enthusiast Jul 2015 #170

Shoutout to EFerrari and Skidmore Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #179

I had no idea, Horse, I am glad though that you are in recovery and want to add YOUR name to sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #252

Thank you. Although I haven't added much here but I enjoyed when I was here Horse with no Name Jul 2015 #267

That is fantastic news! And you definitely did add something. I remember your name eg, sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #268

K&R laundry_queen Jul 2015 #183

Thank you again sabrina. They may be able to run some of us off, but they can't run all of us off. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #187

No problem Rhett, I know DU wasn't always perfect, but at least it was sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #189

Makes one wonder if the Admins really want to run off the progressives. By IMO progressives rhett o rick Jul 2015 #192

Well, if that were the case I would certainly hope they would be honest about it. I certainly sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #193

recommended! Thank you, Sabrina! Ichingcarpenter Jul 2015 #188

Kick with an addition of Dr. Fate with his eerie mask. oasis Jul 2015 #194

Lol, yes, I remember the 'eerie mask'. Wasn't there someone here called 'Death' sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #196

Dr. Fate had a red skull for his insignia. I've been absent from DU oasis Jul 2015 #203

I remember his name very well. I was a lot quieter back then, in awe of so many great sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #213

wait, what happened to Opi? grasswire Jul 2015 #217

Hi Grasswire Trajan Jul 2015 #231

Oh heck grasswire Jul 2015 #242

You, Sabrina! tblue Jul 2015 #202

Kickin' BeanMusical Jul 2015 #209

Not around early, but I miss Lasher and woo me with science fiercely. merrily Jul 2015 #212

Merrily, another great DUer. Lasher, thank you for remembering. I miss woo me with science sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #214

My pleasure, sabrina 1. I wish I were more familiar with some of the others noted on this thread. merrily Jul 2015 #216

Better Believe it. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #220

He still is nxylas Jul 2015 #215

10 years 12 hour days proud patriot Jul 2015 #219

Kick, kick, kick!!! Heidi Jul 2015 #221

I have to chime in here, too.... loudsue Jul 2015 #225

Great thread. CanSocDem Jul 2015 #226

DuctapeFatwa, bemildred, Jack Rabbit, the Magistrate, Poll Blind and Aidoneus... Violet_Crumble Jul 2015 #227

Hey Vi. bemildred Jul 2015 #264

bemildred! It's been a while since we've crossed paths... Violet_Crumble Jul 2015 #283

Mostly I watch now. bemildred Jul 2015 #286

Minstrel Boy, seemslikeadream, WillyT, Octafish, scarletwoman, eridani, Jefferson23, Fuddnik, manny nashville_brook Jul 2015 #229

seemslikeadream! Another great DUer who was tombstoned, cuz, uh, oligarchsunderground. nt Zorra Jul 2015 #238

+1000000000 nashville_brook Jul 2015 #239

Thanks, Sabrina1 Thespian2 Jul 2015 #230

DUrec. PowerToThePeople Jul 2015 #233

If it weren't for DU. Surviving the Bush decade would have been much harder. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #235

K&R! DeepModem Mom Jul 2015 #241

Anyone here remember "arwalden"? Hint below. . . DinahMoeHum Jul 2015 #243

Lol, that's cute but no, I am sorry, that is not familiar to me. But I do remember sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #255

I do! Lars39 Jul 2015 #285

This message was self-deleted by its author bluesbassman Jul 2015 #244

I did not see, and probably won't bother to look what caused Will to make the decision sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #251

This message was self-deleted by its author bluesbassman Jul 2015 #263

I didn't, but could probably guess who and what was involved. No need to pollute sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #266

I miss Skittles. Armstead Jul 2015 #245

Just wanted to add Elizabeth Edwards who was a DUer for a while. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #260

It was a privelege to have her among us. lpbk2713 Jul 2015 #273

Years ago I got my sanity back-and I've got the back of all that love the truth here. NGU DUers n/t bobthedrummer Jul 2015 #261

Same thing for a lot of people, and yours is another name I remember. Wish I could list them sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #290

A-Schwarzenegger LiberalAndProud Jul 2015 #284

Thank you and someone reminded me of Truth Is All and I want to add sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #288

Fitzmass! arely staircase Jul 2015 #291

Bob Boudalang! sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #293

Polly 7, just wanted to add her to the list. And Raindog, who I learned sadly, from Uncle Joe sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #292