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84. NO The Constitutional Lawyers are quite correct!

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 02:55 AM

Jul 2015

You are correct that while conducting a traffic stop an officer can make a lawful order to exit the vehicle for his safety and a couple of other reasons. However in this case the stop was for all legal purposes complete. Encina had written the warning and all that was required was a signature. Had he asked her to sign it and she refused it could be a different story then he had cause to continue. Because he never asked her to sign and chose to instead harass her about a cigarette (He did not order her to put out, he asked her if she minded putting it out). From that point forward he was detaining her unlawfully. Flexing your muscle is not a legal reason to detain someone once the stop is complete!

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So many questions on what happened to Sandra Bland [View all] marym625 Jul 2015 OP

A friend of mine posted babylonsister Jul 2015 #1

Anonymous Says �Sandra Bland Was Murdered�, Calls For National �Day of Rage� noiretextatique Jul 2015 #2

When? PatrickforO Jul 2015 #5

i just provided a link eom noiretextatique Jul 2015 #6

There is no date and no place marym625 Jul 2015 #11

Yeah but those pics on the links were pretty graphic. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #14

I don't know marym625 Jul 2015 #15

the link is gone, where is the mugshot? Alameda Jul 2015 #55

Thursday noiretextatique Jul 2015 #25

That's last year marym625 Jul 2015 #30

I have actually skipped reading all the mugshot stuff marym625 Jul 2015 #3

i think the mugshots will be key to proving murder noiretextatique Jul 2015 #8

Was just checking that out marym625 Jul 2015 #13

just looked at the mugshot again ellennelle Jul 2015 #21

not sure about that either...why would she even have a bag? noiretextatique Jul 2015 #24

Since this morning marym625 Jul 2015 #32

one error here ellennelle Jul 2015 #16

No, thank you for the clarification! nt babylonsister Jul 2015 #17

I don't blame people for suspecting LE of anything underhanded, but this does seem unlikely. Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2015 #27

Yet another murder of a black person by cops. PatrickforO Jul 2015 #4

No question in my mind marym625 Jul 2015 #7

agreed. This is murder. Euphoria Jul 2015 #10

Trash can explanation: XemaSab Jul 2015 #9

so why does the gigantic trash can marym625 Jul 2015 #12

Where I work the trash cans have three or four liners hack89 Jul 2015 #18

I understand that marym625 Jul 2015 #31

In addition to stopping her for DWB, he then baited and badgered her into a confrontation. ColesCountyDem Jul 2015 #19

I do get it Dems to Win Jul 2015 #28

soul crushing marym625 Jul 2015 #34

+100% Enthusiast Jul 2015 #47

I won't believe it either marym625 Jul 2015 #33

additional questions ellennelle Jul 2015 #20

Good questions marym625 Jul 2015 #39

If there were 3 women in the cell across from her, have they been interviewed? snot Jul 2015 #45

At least one was marym625 Jul 2015 #54

Thx! snot Jul 2015 #70

Did the family get an independent autopsy? ALBliberal Jul 2015 #22

Yes cstanleytech Jul 2015 #37

I see you were answered marym625 Jul 2015 #40

What happened... zentrum Jul 2015 #23

absolutely. they are culpable in her death. marym625 Jul 2015 #41

"I want answers. What happened to Sandra Bland and why?" cstanleytech Jul 2015 #26

Whether or not anyone is unhappy with the answers, the questions need to be asked and Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2015 #36

Are you seriously asking me this? marym625 Jul 2015 #42

Actually we agree on some things. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #46

Didn't look like we disagreed on anything marym625 Jul 2015 #49

Murder? Perhaps not, but they surely killed her. immoderate Jul 2015 #60

Agreed, they did contribute to it provided they knew of her past suicide attempts and cstanleytech Jul 2015 #62

On your first question, passenger side approaches are the standard in most departments now. Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #29

If this is true, Dark n Stormy Knight Jul 2015 #35

Read down a little and I answered that Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #38

I appreciate your answers marym625 Jul 2015 #43

Off the side of the road is safest place really if you think about it, maybe they should cstanleytech Jul 2015 #48

I understand that marym625 Jul 2015 #50

Which is why I think police departments should consider adding more cameras for better cstanleytech Jul 2015 #61

I think it matters marym625 Jul 2015 #65

I think we will get lucky to just get him fired unless he screws up more cstanleytech Jul 2015 #69

I believe it will depend on if the DoJ and/or the ACLU marym625 Jul 2015 #77

360 degree camera coverage would be a great thing Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #74

If someone is acting either combative or like they may Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #71

Thank you marym625 Jul 2015 #73

Thank you Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #76

So Lee here is a question then. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #78

I don't know enough to say either way Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #80

Fair enough, perhaps I was to hasty on the firing I will have to think on it. cstanleytech Jul 2015 #81

I appreciate all your answers, marym625 Jul 2015 #79

Your "Constitutional lawyers" are wrong Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #82

I don't have time right now marym625 Jul 2015 #83

NO The Constitutional Lawyers are quite correct! gracielynn77 Jul 2015 #84

Incorrect Lee-Lee Jul 2015 #86

not according to Texas law. marym625 Aug 2015 #87

Could you cite the TX statute for that please? NT Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #89

K&R'd!!! snot Jul 2015 #44

Whether she strangled herself or not, she was murdered by police. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #51

Well, I would like to get whoever actually killed her marym625 Jul 2015 #52

The cop who pulled her over is guilty of at a minimum 2nd degree murder. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #53

I have said this before, marym625 Jul 2015 #56

Agreed. We have become numb to conditions that are mind boggling. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #57

There is absolutely no way we can know what it feels like marym625 Jul 2015 #58

I think we have been brought to numbness that is now evolving to rage on both sides. AllFieldsRequired Jul 2015 #59

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #63

Thank you! marym625 Jul 2015 #66

Too many questions and not enough answers, Uncle Joe Jul 2015 #68

Is drip drip drip character assassination the new thing? WhaTHellsgoingonhere Jul 2015 #64

It sure does marym625 Jul 2015 #67

K&R rbrnmw Jul 2015 #72

Thank you marym625 Jul 2015 #75

It struck me as ominous when he asked her to put out the cigarette... Ino Jul 2015 #85

Definitely marym625 Aug 2015 #88