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stevenleser

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137. There are legal questions here need answering. I honestly don't know the answer.

Reply to liberal N proud (Original post)

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 08:22 AM

Jul 2015

I am not in favor of wantonly shooting at something that isn't personally threatening you with bodily harm. Of course I am anti-gun so that would generally follow. But that opinion is irrelevant in face of the legal issues here.

1 - What is the amount of airspace around ones abode to which they are legally entitled to do what they want, if any. I saw someone post 83 feet above. That seems like a lot.
1a - Does this mean that outside of humans in that airspace (or perhaps even including humans entering that airspace), you can do anything you want to something coming into it?
1b - If the answer to 1a is that you can't do anything you want, what obligations do you have to other peoples property that might enter your property or the legally private airspace around your property. Can you destroy it at will?

2 - Is it OK to threaten people with shooting them if they go onto your property? My guess is the answer to this question depends on the state you are in. In the south, with stand your ground laws and other foolishness the answer is probably yes.

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Kentucky man shoots down drone hovering over his backyard [View all] liberal N proud Jul 2015 OP

This ammosexual needs to be arrested before he carries out his threat... stone space Jul 2015 #1

My anti gun side would tend to agree with you but... liberal N proud Jul 2015 #2

I have no sympathy for the drone. (AI hasn't come far enough for that!) stone space Jul 2015 #8

If you are going to post a rightious anger post, get the facts straight Telcontar Jul 2015 #11

Yep, to me they threatened him twice! A drone in his back yard, WTF, and then threatening him RKP5637 Jul 2015 #46

+1! I would have done the same thing except I would take the case up to get an appellate ruling if Dustlawyer Jul 2015 #70

I agree and there's more to the story... jakedsname Jul 2015 #77

I really can't blame him for what he did. n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #89

Ok, so the drone owners, who called the guy an asshole, are quickly losing "cred" here. MADem Jul 2015 #140

hey that is a good idea, shoot water at the drone.!! actually that is a lot safer then using a gun. Sunlei Jul 2015 #176

I think the drone operators were trying to get views of the teen girls in the house, so MADem Jul 2015 #184

In my opinion, those drone operators should be arrested as the peeping toms they are. (eom) Petrushka Jul 2015 #404

Neat! an anti drone water balloon gun mitch96 Jul 2015 #361

I hate all the gun violence, but I have to agree with you on this one CanonRay Jul 2015 #113

Exactly. If I saw one hovering over my property I would try to knock it out of the sky too.... peacebird Jul 2015 #368

But would you shoot them if they crossed onto your property to rertieve their dead drone? (nt) stone space Jul 2015 #416

No, nor did he. He never unholstered his handgun. peacebird Jul 2015 #422

Threatened him how? stone space Jul 2015 #415

Four guys roll up in a car and call you an SOB. CanonRay Jul 2015 #417

A big enough threat to shoot them if... stone space Jul 2015 #418

If four guys attacked me on my front lawn CanonRay Jul 2015 #419

Silly post. Not what happened. Strawman. peacebird Jul 2015 #423

Bingo! haikugal Jul 2015 #115

Agree totally hueymahl Jul 2015 #121

The guy also has a right to protect his property and himself Bluzmann57 Jul 2015 #211

and he had a 16 year old daughter awoke_in_2003 Jul 2015 #340

I agree. nt Mojorabbit Jul 2015 #402

Are you daft? sendero Jul 2015 #19

I have to agree with you on that, Mbrow Jul 2015 #32

Agree!!! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #47

I hate guns and threats and violence, phylny Jul 2015 #56

Damn right. (nt) paleotn Jul 2015 #60

Best reply. n/t tavernier Jul 2015 #141

Completely agree. The Green Manalishi Jul 2015 #160

Complete agreement. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #181

To shoot a gun in a neighborhood is wrong, unless there is threat to ones life. Sunlei Jul 2015 #183

There might be laws... sendero Jul 2015 #193

can't you shoot water at it with your garden hose? why think gun as first choice? Sunlei Jul 2015 #194

I don't know at what altitude it was hovering.. sendero Jul 2015 #206

the cheaper ones..1k? I don't know..don't fly very high or far Sunlei Jul 2015 #209

The owner claimed.. sendero Jul 2015 #213

one I want is about $7,000. to much for me to afford, but I can dream :) Sunlei Jul 2015 #214

Couple of thing, the threat in this story was from the four men that first A Simple Game Jul 2015 #35

Oddly enough, I agree with the homeowner. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #61

Some in this thread assume that the homeowner was a young strong lad able to fend off A Simple Game Jul 2015 #123

Agreed. n/t Adsos Letter Jul 2015 #312

If four angry men came to my house and cntrygrl Jul 2015 #54

You got that right. Their first words: "Are you the son-of-a-bitch..." would have raised.. BlueJazz Jul 2015 #68

angry enough to shoot them while they stood next to their truck on the public street? Sunlei Jul 2015 #196

I didn't finish the article GummyBearz Jul 2015 #240

I don't know. my context is I've had 'angry neighbors' drive up and yell. I didn't 'wave a gun' or Sunlei Jul 2015 #248

Really, you have had angry neighbors drive up and yell at you? djean111 Jul 2015 #330

'sounds like' you're misinterprting several messageboard posts by Sunlei Jul 2015 #333

No. Just pissed off enough to let them know that if they have come to attack/hurt/maim me, it ... BlueJazz Jul 2015 #251

Kinda' makes me want to get a shotgun... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #253

Did that happen? frylock Jul 2015 #345

He didn't threaten to shoot them on the public street. christx30 Aug 2015 #425

Aren't you guys forgetting that the FOUR guys are threatening him? jwirr Jul 2015 #246

Stay off other folks property... Positrons Jul 2015 #332

Four men who you have never met and are obviously pissed and heading toward you pipoman Jul 2015 #391

It was a total invasion of the mans privacy.. haikugal Jul 2015 #112

If the drone is low enough to "look" into my windows TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #127

Agree, I don't fault any of the actions or words of this homeowner....at all. nt haikugal Jul 2015 #147

but all your neighbors can see in your window with telescope or handheld camera zoom Sunlei Jul 2015 #200

Bright light outside. Dimmer inside. They can't see. TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #202

many camera drones and toy drones are dirt cheap and on sale. Get used to drones, they're legal. Sunlei Jul 2015 #207

Get used to more stories like this.. frylock Jul 2015 #347

lol, glad you're not my neighbor. get a taller fence if your Neighborhood regulators allow it. Sunlei Jul 2015 #352

if you approve of spying on neighbors with a UAV, then I don't want you as a neighbor either. frylock Jul 2015 #355

500 feet and lower is generally considered part and parcel of private property. LanternWaste Jul 2015 #229

No. Everything above the ground belongs to the FAA. jeff47 Jul 2015 #262

So if I string a tarp across the yard, attached to my house and some of my trees Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #353

You do. jeff47 Jul 2015 #384

No, everything does not "belong" to the FAA. James48 Jul 2015 #378

You better go let the FAA and NTSB know that they're wrong. jeff47 Jul 2015 #383

Depends on where you are, what you're doing and what you are doing it with. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #380

Yep, was using "own" in a vernacular sense instead of a legal sense. (nt) jeff47 Jul 2015 #385

I don't agree with the way the property owner handled the situation BUT I also believe that drones kelliekat44 Jul 2015 #7

There are now drones with weapons mounted on them for firing. It was posted recently. Here it is. RKP5637 Jul 2015 #50

"Flying guns are legal in Connecticut" alcina Jul 2015 #73

"Unless serious accidents or crimes made by gun-toting drones happen, it's unlikely FAA RKP5637 Jul 2015 #81

I think it is illegal to hunt animals from/with remote controled mounted guns. Sunlei Jul 2015 #136

I am glad that that video is up there, making the rounds. MADem Jul 2015 #153

OMG - and it'll happen, just a matter of time. "Invasion of the Drones," like a fifites RKP5637 Jul 2015 #169

Very well done kiva Jul 2015 #295

if i gave you a million dollars beergood Jul 2015 #409

Post removed Post removed Jul 2015 #10

He threatened them with murder. stone space Jul 2015 #12

Nope, not what he threatened at all Telcontar Jul 2015 #13

Threatening cold blooded murder with a gun in hand. stone space Jul 2015 #16

More factually incorrect statements Telcontar Jul 2015 #18

Wearing a gun. (nt) stone space Jul 2015 #24

The difference is key, gun in hand is brandishing, gun in holster is not Telcontar Jul 2015 #27

He threatened a shooting while armed. stone space Jul 2015 #31

Let me type this slow so you can understand Telcontar Jul 2015 #48

I like that. (type this slow) BlueJazz Jul 2015 #72

He told them he would defend himself skepticscott Jul 2015 #51

I am very anti-gun Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #158

And that was sufficient to send four potentially violent men packing Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #156

Self defense is not murder. The Green Manalishi Jul 2015 #164

Your interlocutor rejects the idea that a woman has a right to shoot an attacking rapist. Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #281

He's on ignore The Green Manalishi Jul 2015 #299

where did he post that? irisblue Jul 2015 #356

Manalishi wasn't speaking to Telcontar in the post I replied to. nt Nuclear Unicorn Jul 2015 #370

So when you said just above skepticscott Jul 2015 #53

Another shooting liberal N proud Jul 2015 #25

So what, exactly, do you suggest he was threatening to shoot, mr blur Jul 2015 #161

Idiot assholes threatening him with violence? frylock Jul 2015 #357

There was nothing cold-blooded about it, to be fair on that particular issue. Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #84

Earlier post refers to his daughter sunbathing in the backyard. 7962 Jul 2015 #101

what stops the next second story homeowner from looking out their window? Sunlei Jul 2015 #116

Depends if they're staking it ou like police surveillance!! Not just Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #120

people are allowed to sit at their window all day long if they want.I agree its creepy but its legal Sunlei Jul 2015 #128

There are peeping tom laws in most areas. And that is also why we have curtains and wooden jwirr Jul 2015 #270

Yes and no. xmas74 Jul 2015 #309

Homeowners do no not own a view. They often however, own the air space up to a few hundred feet LanternWaste Jul 2015 #232

was there a two story or better building nearby? eom yawnmaster Jul 2015 #396

Nuff said Joe Chi Minh Jul 2015 #122

I saw at least one mention of his 16 year old daughter sunbathing out back Blue_Adept Jul 2015 #102

Apparently he had a 16 yr old daughter who was laying out.... blackspade Jul 2015 #145

now he knows all his male neighbors were taking a peek at the teen next door. Sunlei Jul 2015 #226

You know, words MEAN THINGS. Please look up "cold blooded". Romulox Jul 2015 #130

True. Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #430

Um.. the gun was never in his hand Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #152

Just gonna point out that it's attitudes like this that make it so people like JoeyT Jul 2015 #398

No, he said there would be another shooting. djean111 Jul 2015 #22

That's a threat. stone space Jul 2015 #26

It's a warning skepticscott Jul 2015 #52

All he did was draw a line in the sand meeting threat with threat liberal N proud Jul 2015 #185

Stone, from your post, he did NOT threaten cntrygrl Jul 2015 #58

WRONG - Not murder, self defense hueymahl Jul 2015 #126

When the KKK tried to march on my family's farm, we threatened them with murder too. ieoeja Jul 2015 #166

No you didnt, you informed that you would protect yourself. No murder intended nt 7962 Jul 2015 #189

Nope. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #182

I'd say they threatened him first. Marr Jul 2015 #237

he threatened to defend himself against physical harm.. frylock Jul 2015 #349

^^^^^this is why I donate to the Brady campagin^^^^^^ and I say anyone donating to the NRA Fred Sanders Jul 2015 #138

Sorry, the NRA does NOT work for gun owner Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #150

So you are officially announcing yourself as a GOP supporter brentspeak Jul 2015 #220

Thanks for exposing yourself! Nt Logical Jul 2015 #254

Yup. Agschmid Jul 2015 #292

So you donate to right wing causes Bradical79 Jul 2015 #275

Wrong response Android3.14 Jul 2015 #34

Based on what? stone space Jul 2015 #36

Is your name Neo? Android3.14 Jul 2015 #129

Okay. Stop the thread. This response wins the internets for at least the next week... truebrit71 Jul 2015 #203

Normally I might agree with you... paleotn Jul 2015 #59

The gun on his hip is probably the only reason he wasnt attacked 7962 Jul 2015 #97

While I find stone's response bizarrre, you just wondered off into paranoid land. ieoeja Jul 2015 #173

Its not paranoia if they're really after you! 7962 Jul 2015 #403

if you read the story the man is not an "ammosexual". But HEY, you got to use a cool term KittyWampus Jul 2015 #144

That term is offensive on several different levels but, you know a jury would give it a pass. Hiraeth Jul 2015 #201

Agreed. And by "cool," I mean "bigoted." Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #215

You can get hidden using "hoplophobe," but not "ammosexual" Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #319

Here's more information on the topic--the shooter is calling for more drone laws! MADem Jul 2015 #163

You should start another thread with that link TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #208

You can, if you'd a mind to--I usually stay away from "gun threads" but MADem Jul 2015 #224

Talk about a stretch Reter Jul 2015 #247

it reminds me of a joke hfojvt Jul 2015 #258

Your tacit acceptance sarisataka Jul 2015 #301

Well, in this case, I'm with him. I hope lots of these invaders of people's privacy sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #351

Why are you defending assholes who fly drones - with cameras - into people's back yards? Matariki Jul 2015 #365

Considering Augiedog Jul 2015 #3

I would try and get it down any damned way I could. djean111 Jul 2015 #9

The guy could stop threatening to murder people with his guns for a start. stone space Jul 2015 #15

How would that prevent a drone from invading his property and privacy? djean111 Jul 2015 #30

Why don't you explain to us what part you think the four men played in this confrontation? A Simple Game Jul 2015 #39

He was one guy, confronted with FOUR guys, one of whom was angry & hostile. Demit Jul 2015 #41

If the drone only had a gun......... Fuddnik Jul 2015 #78

Which he didn't do. truebrit71 Jul 2015 #204

Or... hear me out, OR you could stop lying about him threatening murder. frylock Jul 2015 #359

so if someone peeks over 'their' fence, does that give you the right to shoot the fence? Sunlei Jul 2015 #71

This is about drones with cameras hovering in back yards. djean111 Jul 2015 #79

no, you call the police on them. Sunlei Jul 2015 #110

Call the police on whom? How is anyone supposed to know who owns a drone hovering KittyWampus Jul 2015 #154

those toys are line of sight. Its one of their next door neighbors. probably because the drone owner Sunlei Jul 2015 #172

This message was self-deleted by its author goonk298 Jul 2015 #406

The shooter is well aware of such things skepticscott Jul 2015 #107

sounds like he was ready & waiting for his neighbors 'toy' to cross over his side. Sunlei Jul 2015 #142

Do you know how prolific #8 birdshot is? Any upland bird hunter does. Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #320

What if a strawman peeks over your red herring? frylock Jul 2015 #360

peek a boo! Sunlei Jul 2015 #366

See post #50. I would be damn concerned too if some unknown drone were RKP5637 Jul 2015 #55

We're going to have to start tinfoiling our windows now. nt valerief Jul 2015 #4

here in Floriduh, we onethatcares Jul 2015 #33

I'm an anti-gun type Fortinbras Armstrong Jul 2015 #5

^^ This ^^ n/t KarenS Jul 2015 #14

He lost my sympathies the moment he pivoted from attacking a drone to... stone space Jul 2015 #20

I don't know where you got your law degree jberryhill Jul 2015 #40

Equating self-defense with "murder" skepticscott Jul 2015 #57

At no point did he threaten murder Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #167

Why do you continue to lie to support your stance? frylock Jul 2015 #362

It's hilarious; the way everyone thinks you're being serious. You had me going too, but I caught on. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #407

No one who has had to deal with him takes him seriously LostOne4Ever Jul 2015 #408

I was being totally facetious. n/t cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #420

Me too. LuvNewcastle Jul 2015 #28

I thought about wanting a drone for about 5 minutes. But after flying it up and down, Hoppy Jul 2015 #6

I want one for photography but the good ones cost to much :( Sunlei Jul 2015 #114

Have you tried attaching an old digital camera to a kite? woodsprite Jul 2015 #143

I love kites of all kinds, so many powerlines around my house along the easements. I'd Sunlei Jul 2015 #148

Yeah, we can't do it anyplace around home because of the space required. woodsprite Jul 2015 #151

I don't have a problem with someone taking out a spying drone A Little Weird Jul 2015 #17

I agree Locrian Jul 2015 #43

Agree! Well said! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #62

yeah it's all fun and games Locrian Jul 2015 #239

They invariably come out of hyperspace too close, though. A HERETIC I AM Jul 2015 #272

heh Locrian Jul 2015 #354

lol beergood Jul 2015 #410

Good for him. blackspade Jul 2015 #21

No excuse for this ammosexual to threaten murder while armed. (nt) stone space Jul 2015 #29

Your facts are off by a country mile on this. blackspade Jul 2015 #37

He was acting defensively. You're way off on this one. Demit Jul 2015 #42

So, you have no problem with people threatening murder while NOT armed? Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #171

Define the criteria in your imagionary law! Nt Logical Jul 2015 #257

Not sure what your asking. blackspade Jul 2015 #326

10 feet? 25 feet? 100 feet? nt Logical Jul 2015 #343

? blackspade Jul 2015 #367

You are the one that said "into people's back yards", not me. So you define what.... Logical Jul 2015 #371

So, you have no stance other than harassing me for my opinion. blackspade Jul 2015 #372

LOL, I guess you have no opinion. Just random thoughts with no basis. But to each their own. nt Logical Jul 2015 #374

LOL indeed. I stated my opinion. blackspade Jul 2015 #377

It was one question. Even you can come up with an answer to one question. nt Logical Jul 2015 #379

I'm really torn on this but something else too it could be an important case azurnoir Jul 2015 #23

Yeah, that "air space" two feet from my daughter's window TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #195

Currently the federal government sets the general limit at 500 feet in uncongested areas. Glassunion Jul 2015 #302

I have to say that if it was my backyard I would want to do the same, Or at least capture the drone. Ford_Prefect Jul 2015 #38

I would do the same thing to a drone invading my privacy . . . if I had a gun. Vinca Jul 2015 #44

sorry, but if I had a gun I'd shoot down a trespassing, hovering, videotaping drone too. magical thyme Jul 2015 #45

Drones, IMO, will become nothing more than mechanized Peeping Toms. djean111 Jul 2015 #49

The vast majority are remote control Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #67

yup - and that's why i am against them being flown in populated areas HFRN Jul 2015 #119

you may have just found your "million dollar idea". KittyWampus Jul 2015 #159

Here it is, the Drone Net Gun! RKP5637 Jul 2015 #69

I found this disturbing at that link... Moostache Jul 2015 #108

Yep, it sounded like protection from a drone invasion. I think I'm in that same time too, like RKP5637 Jul 2015 #124

That's a wildlife capture gun, repurposed!!! MADem Jul 2015 #190

Only $850 liberal N proud Jul 2015 #212

I know! Didn't they used to do the same thing with a few rocks tied to the corners of a net, and a MADem Jul 2015 #223

We need anti-drone drones Renew Deal Jul 2015 #86

Now yer talkin'!!!!!! djean111 Jul 2015 #94

How do we keep privacy invading drones out of our backyards? HooptieWagon Jul 2015 #63

Problem: RC drones count legally as planes. DetlefK Jul 2015 #64

Planes don't hover ten feet over the ground TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #85

Ok, if they're legally planes, according to FAA regulations.. Fuddnik Jul 2015 #91

Do you have a link to that regulation? I'm trying to understand the legal aspects of this. stevenleser Jul 2015 #146

FYI- if you own property, you own the right to build X feet up into the air. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #165

Doesn't matter if you can build there. jeff47 Jul 2015 #243

"I'm trying to understand the legal aspects of this." PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #177

Good stuff. Right off though, the summary in the first link includes this nugget stevenleser Jul 2015 #179

In February the FAA released 195 pages of proposed regulation... PoliticAverse Jul 2015 #188

Also this... stevenleser Jul 2015 #180

FAR 91.119 Minimum safe altitudes (general) (FAR-AIM FAA Publication) Fuddnik Jul 2015 #373

Political averses links break that out more. UAV are below 500 feet. They're not stevenleser Jul 2015 #375

Thanks to a link from someone else, I know that regulation only applies to fixed wing aircraft. stevenleser Jul 2015 #187

Exactly. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #210

RC planes. They have different rules than manned aircraft. jeff47 Jul 2015 #265

Every community has limits on how tall a house might be. So we do own the rights KittyWampus Jul 2015 #162

That's just the building-code. That doesn't mean you own the airspace. DetlefK Jul 2015 #168

legally, we don't even "own" land or airspace. What we own is the RIGHT to use it- KittyWampus Jul 2015 #178

Nope. You do not own the rights to the airspace above your property. jeff47 Jul 2015 #252

You are simply incorrect. One does have a right to airspace above one's house. How much, and how Romulox Jul 2015 #260

FAA regulations apply to all airspace. Even the airspace above your house. jeff47 Jul 2015 #264

You make a basic mistake: you assumed the definition of "airspace" Romulox Jul 2015 #266

Need a mirror? jeff47 Jul 2015 #273

Oh dear. *You* made a claim. You can't support it. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #279

I did support it. Again, the article has links to regulations and law. jeff47 Jul 2015 #283

No. That's not how legal proof works. Don't worry about it. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #286

So you apparently need me to copy-and-paste the links from the article for you. jeff47 Jul 2015 #287

Not exactly. They are subject to differenet regulations than manned aircraft. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #386

Ah...idiots with guns JackInGreen Jul 2015 #65

I see it as "Idiots with Drones"----hoping to capture something risque' to post on the internets. WinkyDink Jul 2015 #90

my little brother has tied a camera on his remote control truck & drives it on lawns Sunlei Jul 2015 #66

I would think it depends on how much in intrudes on others privacy? liberal N proud Jul 2015 #75

If he drove it into my back yard he might not get it back. n/t djean111 Jul 2015 #76

Totally agree! avebury Jul 2015 #80

yards are pretty close in most neighborhoods, what if his pet wearing camera vest climbed fence in Sunlei Jul 2015 #103

So, you are okay with little cameras invading property and privacy? djean111 Jul 2015 #109

well google map shows your backyard to the world. you ok with that? Sunlei Jul 2015 #111

So - are you really saying that everyone has a right to spy on others? djean111 Jul 2015 #117

he can't get his TOY into backyard because of fence, but some places use invisable fence for dogs. Sunlei Jul 2015 #139

Google does not take pictures INSIDE my house TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #217

any camera or telescope can look through your windows. be sure to tin foil and keep drapes closed. Sunlei Jul 2015 #221

Can you post your home address.. frylock Jul 2015 #363

follow the manure roller border collie of doom Sunlei Jul 2015 #421

Google also alters images showing people in their street view and maps liberal N proud Jul 2015 #411

Very true. christx30 Aug 2015 #427

Does it go into back yards and take pictures at windows? TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #88

OTHER people's lawns? Why? Let him play in his own damn yard. Unless, of course, it's okay for the WinkyDink Jul 2015 #93

False analogy hueymahl Jul 2015 #133

Hey--ladders and telephoto lenses are legal! Why not photograph your neighbors sunbathing with a giant ladder!!!! Romulox Jul 2015 #135

or mount a camera in your tree thats taller then the fence blocking the 'view'. Sunlei Jul 2015 #205

That would *also* be invasion of privacy. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #233

so call the police and have the VOYEUR arrested. but be prepared for them to say, I was photographin Sunlei Jul 2015 #238

No. I would likely engage in "self help" and let YOU (the peeper) call the police. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #250

Cuius est solum, eius est usque ad caelum et ad inferos paleotn Jul 2015 #74

Thank you azurnoir Jul 2015 #83

K&R! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #98

The SCOTUS in US v Causby rejected that doctrine as it applies to airspace. See political averse's stevenleser Jul 2015 #191

He was charged with Criminal Mischeif and Wanton Endangerment Renew Deal Jul 2015 #82

I'd take that one to trial if I were him. TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #92

Same here! n/t RKP5637 Jul 2015 #99

The wanton endangerment fails because he used bird shot. tclambert Jul 2015 #104

He needs to demand a JURY TRIAL. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #132

Am I supposed to side with the Drone-Boys? Because I do not. WinkyDink Jul 2015 #87

I think only one or two people here are siding with them. nt djean111 Jul 2015 #95

In a previous drone-thread, I was taken to task by a DU drone-owner. J/S. WinkyDink Jul 2015 #96

I agree with this guy's behavior, and I support what he did. NBachers Jul 2015 #100

I don't think people 'think' before they shoot. we have laws against peeping at people. Call 911. Sunlei Jul 2015 #105

And that is creepy. And just because Google does it, does not make it right. djean111 Jul 2015 #186

Google maps doesn't show real-time Kermitt Gribble Jul 2015 #324

on google street view you can see close in cars and thats interesting in russia street view lol. Sunlei Jul 2015 #325

Google maps use a combination of satellite and aerial imagery. Glassunion Jul 2015 #346

having recieved a death threat this year i have greater sympathy for the guy with a gun dembotoz Jul 2015 #106

Not a gun owner rosesaylavee Jul 2015 #118

If you take out the fact that the drone was involved flying_wahini Jul 2015 #125

Do you have a link to the applicable laws? I don't think it's that simple in this situation. stevenleser Jul 2015 #157

What happened to all the drone-defenders from the last thread??? nt Romulox Jul 2015 #131

The one where the guy with the baseball bat beat the drone on public property? jberryhill Jul 2015 #199

Yeah. The one where our "legal experts" posited that one may film into a persons' home, Romulox Jul 2015 #234

Yeah, that's right jberryhill Jul 2015 #236

No. It's not. Invasion of privacy is not solely dependent on the location of the camera. nt Romulox Jul 2015 #249

You are entitled to believe that jberryhill Jul 2015 #276

It's simply a fact. You want to muddy the waters, of course. Romulox Jul 2015 #285

I would have done something similar Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #134

Not owning a gun, I would have to find other means liberal N proud Jul 2015 #192

Again, paintball guns are perfect for drones Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #274

Your own drone? Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #323

Drone crash derby liberal N proud Jul 2015 #413

The foul ball fence for spectators will be a grand chicken coop... Eleanors38 Jul 2015 #424

I'd have been at bit at a loss. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #198

Well, ya need a paiunt ball gun for drone varmints Kelvin Mace Jul 2015 #268

That'd be fun! Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #294

There are legal questions here need answering. I honestly don't know the answer. stevenleser Jul 2015 #137

with your connections, I hope you find the answers. I find this topic incredibly interesting…. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #175

Re question 2, it's "yes" in virtually every state. sir pball Jul 2015 #278

I can't wait to see how many drones Amazon loses Blue_Tires Jul 2015 #149

A friend of mine shot down a drone near Greenville, SC. DemoTex Jul 2015 #155

He could sell the non-broken parts on E-Bay!! nt MADem Jul 2015 #174

I don't blame the home owner for blasting the drone. DawgHouse Jul 2015 #170

the people with the drones are gun owners too olddots Jul 2015 #197

Good point, olddots... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #228

Glad to see this conversation. oldandhappy Jul 2015 #216

Google does not take photos INSIDE of your house TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #219

Yes oldandhappy Jul 2015 #304

No apologies necessary! TexasMommaWithAHat Jul 2015 #308

Sounds like a righteous shooting ileus Jul 2015 #218

Good for him. Anyone using a drone with a camera is probably a pervert. Zorra Jul 2015 #222

roof inspection, solar panel inspection, power line inspection. camera drones are here to stay. Sunlei Jul 2015 #241

You forgot breast and vagina inspection. If they are here to stay, then a $100,000 Zorra Jul 2015 #313

lol, probably something police would love to have as law. just for private citizens. Sunlei Jul 2015 #315

The Sex Crime of Voyeurism Zorra Jul 2015 #321

yes, more then we need to assume about why the drone flew into the neighbors 'airspace' Sunlei Jul 2015 #322

I really, really don't like this guy. And those who think all drones are nefarious are...something. randome Jul 2015 #225

Firing a weapon at an aircraft is against federal law. He fired at a remote-controlled aircraft. jeff47 Jul 2015 #271

Not sure if it qualifies as an 'aircraft' but point taken. randome Jul 2015 #296

Nope, the FAA rules start at the end of whatever is attached to the ground. jeff47 Jul 2015 #298

So, theoretically, a drone could hover right in front of your face and legally you could do nothing. randome Jul 2015 #300

If it's close enough, you might be able to claim self-defense. jeff47 Jul 2015 #303

Airspace rules... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #307

What you wrote is for fixed wing aircraft only. Drones, what stevenleser Jul 2015 #335

I don't believe that differences in aircraft classification... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #339

There are links above that explain it all in greater detail. You don't have the right to stevenleser Jul 2015 #358

Maybe not... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #369

Wrong kind of aircraft. jeff47 Jul 2015 #382

That's true... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #387

Except the FAA says they can fly it there too. jeff47 Jul 2015 #390

Where do they say that RC aircraft... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #393

By not recognizing the concept of a landowner's private airspace. jeff47 Jul 2015 #394

The regulation... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #395

i am as anti gun as they come restorefreedom Jul 2015 #227

I kind of feel the same way liberal N proud Jul 2015 #230

totally. nt restorefreedom Jul 2015 #235

Please -- won't someone think of the drones? Buns_of_Fire Jul 2015 #231

Mr. Meredith had every right to do... slor Jul 2015 #242

Except he actually doesn't. jeff47 Jul 2015 #277

Good for him (nt) bigwillq Jul 2015 #244

Lol, great analysis as usual! Nt Logical Jul 2015 #261

Interesting comment thread here. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jul 2015 #245

Maybe it demonstrates that for many of us its about control of the guns liberal N proud Jul 2015 #256

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It is encouraging sarisataka Jul 2015 #297

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Hope he gets arrested, a night in jail would be good for him! Nt Logical Jul 2015 #263

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Ahhh, someone needs a nap! Nappy time! nt Logical Jul 2015 #284

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yeah I'm gonna buy me a shotgun to blow away them drones ! olddots Jul 2015 #259

Here is a pic of the nut Logical Jul 2015 #267

Would the conversation be different if he'd dropped it with a slingshot? lumberjack_jeff Jul 2015 #269

There are several facets to the issue, for me that would make one of them less "bad" stevenleser Jul 2015 #334

For anyone thinking of shooting down a drone, it is actually against the law to do so. jeff47 Jul 2015 #280

I would do the same thing. Throd Jul 2015 #289

I'm think I'm ok with this Bradical79 Jul 2015 #290

This is a rare instance where I also side with the guy with the guns DFW Jul 2015 #291

Obviously there's nothing new to be said here tularetom Jul 2015 #305

+1. The main learning outcome I see here is when shooting down a perv-drone, petronius Jul 2015 #342

We're going to need some Drone Rules at some point here. DirkGently Jul 2015 #306

Coming to your neighborhood soon - the anti drone drone. yellowcanine Jul 2015 #310

I so hope that this goes to court. Glassunion Jul 2015 #311

I don't see why trespassing laws wouldn't apply to remote controlled and automated devices... Humanist_Activist Jul 2015 #314

Is stalking. Which neighbor is keeping track of when you are there, and when your kid is alone? n/t jtuck004 Jul 2015 #329

Stalking is a crime that invariably requires more than one instance of bad behavior. stevenleser Jul 2015 #337

in texas flying adrone to conduct "survellance" is illegal rdking647 Jul 2015 #316

They passed that law after a drone captured footage of a business dumping illegally Major Nikon Jul 2015 #399

I have no ohheckyeah Jul 2015 #317

The homeowner is in the right here steve2470 Jul 2015 #318

Good. Nothing but a flying stalker - and the operator is threatening my family. n/t jtuck004 Jul 2015 #327

I knew people would start shooting them down. TNNurse Jul 2015 #328

I would have done the same thing, except used a slingshot or rocks to knock it down. Avalux Jul 2015 #331

no.pity for the drone owner Liberal_in_LA Jul 2015 #336

Kentucky holds a special place in my memories. saidsimplesimon Jul 2015 #338

I don't have any guns, LWolf Jul 2015 #341

If some yahoo flies a drone "in my face", jomin41 Jul 2015 #344

Mass marketing of drones, great idea!... Dont call me Shirley Jul 2015 #348

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Not sure what the applicable laws are... Mr_Jefferson_24 Jul 2015 #364

Finally a justified shooting. ruffburr Jul 2015 #376

I wouldn't shoot the drone down The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2015 #381

I agree with him shooting the drone down bluestateguy Jul 2015 #388

The threat of 4 angry men coming onto his christx30 Aug 2015 #429

He was completely justified in shooting down the drone and issuing the warning. the band leader Jul 2015 #389

For the record, I hate guns and I hope he walks Jack Rabbit Jul 2015 #392

Hey the NSA is spying on us all the time. What's a little drone spying? Hell what if it was a Amazon L0oniX Jul 2015 #397

Stand my ....er....air Sancho Jul 2015 #400

Snort. lonestarnot Jul 2015 #414

Good for him. LeftyMom Jul 2015 #401

Citing precedent-setting 2015 Idaho remote-controlled drone law... TeeYiYi Jul 2015 #405

Very helpful. It helps underline the words, phrases and concepts involved. KittyWampus Jul 2015 #412

I don't blame him one bit. Kali Aug 2015 #426

I agree with the sentiment, BUT AleksS Aug 2015 #428

I thought that when I first moved to our city liberal N proud Aug 2015 #433

UPDATE: New telemetry suggests shot-down drone was higher than alleged Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #431

Can a shot gun shoot straight in the air to that altitude with enough force to hit the drone? liberal N proud Aug 2015 #432