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In reply to the discussion: "In a white supremacist society…" [View all]MrScorpio
(73,778 posts)15. What's being discussed here is the standardization of an image, the white image in America
Particularly, the fact that Trayvon needed to be beatified in order to receive the same amount of justice that would be available to any white victim in his shoes. That the first thing that the racist supporters of Zimmerman did to smear Trayvon was to use a form of "niggerfication" to justify his death.
That's something that usually won't happen to whites in this country, because to be white means that you're on the top of the hill.
And in regard to the current President, how many of his predecessors had to put up with this:
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/18/breitbart site were not birthers but heres a thing that says obama was born in kenya/
One of the Breitbart dopes has a SCOOP: Some sort of ancient press release says Barack Obama was born in Kenya. IMPEACH. Retroactively install John McCain, we have so much Iran bombing to make up for.
This particular dope Ben Shapiro, former boy-pundit Joel Pollak, some guy says he is totally not a birther, at all, whatever gave you that idea, but it is very important that this forgotten old publicity pamphlet from a literary agent for a book project that never happened be unearthed and heavily hyped now, because the president was not properly vetted in 2008. (The idea that the president is a secret radical whose secret radicalism was not properly explored by the mainstream media is a stupid conspiracy theory that is almost as ridiculous as birtherism, by the way. We have proof that the president is not a secret radical leftist, and it is his entire political career including his first term as president of the United States.)
One of the Breitbart dopes has a SCOOP: Some sort of ancient press release says Barack Obama was born in Kenya. IMPEACH. Retroactively install John McCain, we have so much Iran bombing to make up for.
This particular dope Ben Shapiro, former boy-pundit Joel Pollak, some guy says he is totally not a birther, at all, whatever gave you that idea, but it is very important that this forgotten old publicity pamphlet from a literary agent for a book project that never happened be unearthed and heavily hyped now, because the president was not properly vetted in 2008. (The idea that the president is a secret radical whose secret radicalism was not properly explored by the mainstream media is a stupid conspiracy theory that is almost as ridiculous as birtherism, by the way. We have proof that the president is not a secret radical leftist, and it is his entire political career including his first term as president of the United States.)
or this:
"The White House has been usurped by a Kenyan socialist named Barry Soetero, who hatched an elaborate plot to pass himself off as a citizen of the United States a plot the media refuse to even investigate. This president doesnt just claim the right to assassinate suspected terrorists who are beyond the reach of law enforcement he may be planning on rounding up his ideological opponents and putting them into concentration camps if he is reelected. He may have murdered a blogger who was critical of his administration, but authorities refuse to investigate. At the very least, he is plotting on disarming the American public after the election, in accordance with a secret deal cut with the UN and possibly with the assistance of foreign troops."
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/03/republican_fear_factor_salpart/singleton/
http://www.salon.com/2012/05/03/republican_fear_factor_salpart/singleton/
I've been around since the Kennedy administration and I don't ever recall any white president ever having his very citizenship questioned, do you?
Or the fact that membership in white supremacist organizations have gone way UP since the election of a black president. That's no coincidence.
These are the very issues that make of the discussion of white privilege in America.
It still exists.
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A "white supremacist society" would *never* elect a black man to the highest office in the land.
Nye Bevan
May 2012
#7
The election of a black president doesn't disprove that we live in a "white supremacist society"…
MrScorpio
May 2012
#9
A "white supremacist society" implies to me that most of the population is racist
Major Nikon
May 2012
#10
What's being discussed here is the standardization of an image, the white image in America
MrScorpio
May 2012
#15
Can you think of anything anti-Democratic Party that isn't concentrated in the South?
Major Nikon
May 2012
#99
Why not just say "racist society"? Why use a phrase, "white supremacist," that used to refer
HiPointDem
May 2012
#82
no it implies that whites get more of a benefit of the doubt than non whites
arely staircase
May 2012
#25
overt racists are social outcasts in america. most racism is unintentional
arely staircase
May 2012
#73
Most (white) Americans don't get edgy when a few young black males walk down their street?
alcibiades_mystery
May 2012
#52
Yes, but again, how does any of that challenge Clinton's very identity as an American?
MrScorpio
May 2012
#19
There are more black males aged 18-24 incarcerated, on probation or parole than
coalition_unwilling
May 2012
#65
of course race is still an issue in america, a big issue.that doesn't mean america is still a "white
HiPointDem
May 2012
#83
they spent boatloads of money to destroy marriage equality in california
arely staircase
May 2012
#72
Why would it be surprising that older whites would be less likely to vote for a black man than
HiPointDem
May 2012
#84
It was a secret plot by the white supremacists. Elect a black man president, so that we can pretend
Nye Bevan
May 2012
#13
Do you think we could have a national program for the mass incarceration of black men
EFerrari
May 2012
#64
Except the OP didn't say "white supremacist problem". It said "white supremacist society".
HiPointDem
May 2012
#85
I'm sorry, HiPointDem, but imo, that's a distinction without much of a difference. n/t
EFerrari
May 2012
#86
I think it's quite a big difference if one's intent is to get white people to hear the message.
HiPointDem
May 2012
#87
No disagreement that more people should be aware of the injustice in the "justice" system and be
HiPointDem
May 2012
#90
I don't remember the ad, but I came of age in the civil rights era. If you think a lot of white
HiPointDem
May 2012
#93
Hard to have a "white supremecist society" if nobody identifies as a racist, no?
Major Nikon
May 2012
#58
You are collapsing a number of things here but mainly, you're confusing objecting to racism
EFerrari
May 2012
#44
There is racism in this society, but it's not a white supremacist society as a whole.
Beacool
May 2012
#45
All white people are racist? The premise of the question is racist in and of itself
uponit7771
May 2012
#61
I didn't realize we did blood tests to determine race. Actually I didn't even realize there was a
HiPointDem
May 2012
#89
I think the fundamental good point is being lost with excess hyperbole.
lumberjack_jeff
May 2012
#67