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MrScorpio

(73,778 posts)
15. What's being discussed here is the standardization of an image, the white image in America
Fri May 18, 2012, 04:44 PM
May 2012

Particularly, the fact that Trayvon needed to be beatified in order to receive the same amount of justice that would be available to any white victim in his shoes. That the first thing that the racist supporters of Zimmerman did to smear Trayvon was to use a form of "niggerfication" to justify his death.

That's something that usually won't happen to whites in this country, because to be white means that you're on the top of the hill.

And in regard to the current President, how many of his predecessors had to put up with this:

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/18/breitbart site were not birthers but heres a thing that says obama was born in kenya/

One of the Breitbart dopes has a SCOOP: Some sort of ancient press release says Barack Obama was born … in Kenya. IMPEACH. Retroactively install John McCain, we have so much Iran bombing to make up for.

This particular dope — Ben Shapiro, former boy-pundit Joel Pollak, some guy — says he is totally not a birther, at all, whatever gave you that idea, but it is very important that this forgotten old publicity pamphlet from a literary agent for a book project that never happened be unearthed and heavily hyped now, because the president was not properly “vetted” in 2008. (The idea that the president is a secret radical whose secret radicalism was not properly explored by the mainstream media is a stupid conspiracy theory that is almost as ridiculous as birtherism, by the way. We have proof that the president is not a secret radical leftist, and it is “his entire political career including his first term as president of the United States.”)


or this:

"The White House has been usurped by a Kenyan socialist named Barry Soetero, who hatched an elaborate plot to pass himself off as a citizen of the United States – a plot the media refuse to even investigate. This president doesn’t just claim the right to assassinate suspected terrorists who are beyond the reach of law enforcement – he may be planning on rounding up his ideological opponents and putting them into concentration camps if he is reelected. He may have murdered a blogger who was critical of his administration, but authorities refuse to investigate. At the very least, he is plotting on disarming the American public after the election, in accordance with a secret deal cut with the UN and possibly with the assistance of foreign troops."

http://www.salon.com/2012/05/03/republican_fear_factor_salpart/singleton/


I've been around since the Kennedy administration and I don't ever recall any white president ever having his very citizenship questioned, do you?

Or the fact that membership in white supremacist organizations have gone way UP since the election of a black president. That's no coincidence.

These are the very issues that make of the discussion of white privilege in America.

It still exists.


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They are going to use mactime May 2012 #1
Ignorant black power ramblings? Solomon May 2012 #2
How is this ignorant or black power ramblings? nt MrScorpio May 2012 #3
Do you disagree with the OP's assesment? arcane1 May 2012 #4
What? MineralMan May 2012 #5
There's ignorance in this thread, but not in the OP. marmar May 2012 #6
Three jurors thought your comment was OK. Robb May 2012 #49
Yikes. BlueIris May 2012 #50
Welcome to my Ignore list, troll - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #63
Pizza is delivered. Odin2005 May 2012 #79
Whiskey Tango Fuck you? Taverner May 2012 #101
A "white supremacist society" would *never* elect a black man to the highest office in the land. Nye Bevan May 2012 #7
The election of a black president doesn't disprove that we live in a "white supremacist society"… MrScorpio May 2012 #9
A "white supremacist society" implies to me that most of the population is racist Major Nikon May 2012 #10
What's being discussed here is the standardization of an image, the white image in America MrScorpio May 2012 #15
I'm not sure whose standard you're referring Major Nikon May 2012 #23
The birthers are concentrated in the South. Odin2005 May 2012 #81
Can you think of anything anti-Democratic Party that isn't concentrated in the South? Major Nikon May 2012 #99
Why not just say "racist society"? Why use a phrase, "white supremacist," that used to refer HiPointDem May 2012 #82
no it implies that whites get more of a benefit of the doubt than non whites arely staircase May 2012 #25
Sorry, but I can't get there from here Major Nikon May 2012 #31
i dont think the author is saying that marginal arely staircase May 2012 #34
That's exactly the implication Major Nikon May 2012 #56
overt racists are social outcasts in america. most racism is unintentional arely staircase May 2012 #73
Most (white) Americans don't get edgy when a few young black males walk down their street? alcibiades_mystery May 2012 #52
Most people are SUBCONSCIOUSLY racist. Odin2005 May 2012 #80
Pretty hard to make a society that way, no? Major Nikon May 2012 #100
Right. Bill Clinton got a total pass on everything he did. Nye Bevan May 2012 #12
How much was Clinton's citizenship or religion questioned? MrScorpio May 2012 #16
Has Obama been accused of murdering close to 50 people? Nye Bevan May 2012 #18
Yes, but again, how does any of that challenge Clinton's very identity as an American? MrScorpio May 2012 #19
Saying that we are not a "white supremacist society" Nye Bevan May 2012 #20
But race has always been an issue in this country, has it not? MrScorpio May 2012 #22
No. I've read there are more black men in prison right now EFerrari May 2012 #29
I don't think that's true RZM May 2012 #38
More Black Men in Prison Today Than Enslaved in 1850 EFerrari May 2012 #39
Doesn't match with the data RZM May 2012 #40
If I'm reading Alexander right, she's including black men under EFerrari May 2012 #42
There are more black males aged 18-24 incarcerated, on probation or parole than coalition_unwilling May 2012 #65
I know and still want to read Alexander's book The New Jim Crow EFerrari May 2012 #68
I'm sick of a society where 1% own 40% of the wealth and no one coalition_unwilling May 2012 #71
Occupy is a long awaited source of hope, for sure. EFerrari May 2012 #77
of course race is still an issue in america, a big issue.that doesn't mean america is still a "white HiPointDem May 2012 #83
Clinton went through far worse than Obama. Beacool May 2012 #36
But they did not question whether he was born in the US treestar May 2012 #30
After 5 years of fishing and finding nothing. Beacool May 2012 #46
Think about Obama versus W and Rmoney XemaSab May 2012 #28
Old white people didn't vote for Obama. Major Hogwash May 2012 #32
And 9 out of 10 AA voted for Obama. Beacool May 2012 #47
Over 75% of all Hispanics voted for Obama in 2008. Major Hogwash May 2012 #54
I wish that people would leave religion out of it. Beacool May 2012 #66
I wish the Mormon Church would keep their money out of our politics. nt EFerrari May 2012 #69
they spent boatloads of money to destroy marriage equality in california arely staircase May 2012 #72
Why would it be surprising that older whites would be less likely to vote for a black man than HiPointDem May 2012 #84
How does a "white supremacist society" elect a black president? Major Nikon May 2012 #8
you're right BOG PERSON May 2012 #11
It was a secret plot by the white supremacists. Elect a black man president, so that we can pretend Nye Bevan May 2012 #13
You didn't answer the question Major Nikon May 2012 #14
that's because it was a rhetorical question you were posing BOG PERSON May 2012 #17
Only if you think the answer is, "It doesn't" Major Nikon May 2012 #21
only if you're being wilfully obtuse BOG PERSON May 2012 #27
If you don't want to answer the question, just say so Major Nikon May 2012 #57
Are you kidding? The same way it elects every other president. EFerrari May 2012 #26
"White supremacist problem" != White supremacist society Major Nikon May 2012 #55
Do you think we could have a national program for the mass incarceration of black men EFerrari May 2012 #64
Except the OP didn't say "white supremacist problem". It said "white supremacist society". HiPointDem May 2012 #85
I'm sorry, HiPointDem, but imo, that's a distinction without much of a difference. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #86
I think it's quite a big difference if one's intent is to get white people to hear the message. HiPointDem May 2012 #87
Well, forgive me if I'm horribly wrong but EFerrari May 2012 #88
No disagreement that more people should be aware of the injustice in the "justice" system and be HiPointDem May 2012 #90
Are you old enough to remember this anti-drug ad? EFerrari May 2012 #91
I don't remember the ad, but I came of age in the civil rights era. If you think a lot of white HiPointDem May 2012 #93
Your point is taken. EFerrari May 2012 #94
sure. though imo too much preaching to the converted has its own dangers. HiPointDem May 2012 #95
Most people don't identify themselves as racists bhikkhu May 2012 #53
Hard to have a "white supremecist society" if nobody identifies as a racist, no? Major Nikon May 2012 #58
True, the term doesn't quite apply bhikkhu May 2012 #75
The point is the black president has to be perfect and angelic treestar May 2012 #59
K&R Number23 May 2012 #24
Good post, man. =) AverageJoe90 May 2012 #33
In a white supremacist society Obama not only wouldn't be president, Beacool May 2012 #35
+100 Skip Intro May 2012 #41
You are collapsing a number of things here but mainly, you're confusing objecting to racism EFerrari May 2012 #44
There is racism in this society, but it's not a white supremacist society as a whole. Beacool May 2012 #45
Why are you complaining about derogatory statements about white people EFerrari May 2012 #70
Because she is still pissed... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #74
Well, I can understand that. I'm still pissed they tanked Howard Dean. EFerrari May 2012 #76
Yeah, me too... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #78
Stuff it. Beacool May 2012 #98
And what the hell does that have to do with this post? Beacool May 2012 #97
All white people are racist? The premise of the question is racist in and of itself uponit7771 May 2012 #61
I'm a white male and I get it fascisthunter May 2012 #37
Silly at best... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #43
Not surprised at all. Kingofalldems May 2012 #51
Okay. So - how did Obama get elected in a white supremacist society? Zax2me May 2012 #48
You don't have to hate to be racist uponit7771 May 2012 #62
In a white supremacist society... krispos42 May 2012 #60
I didn't realize we did blood tests to determine race. Actually I didn't even realize there was a HiPointDem May 2012 #89
I think the fundamental good point is being lost with excess hyperbole. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #67
that's true arely staircase May 2012 #92
Thought provoking. Thanks for posting. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #96
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