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Igel

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32. It's a reasonable question.

Thu Jul 30, 2015, 07:11 PM

Jul 2015

It does require thinking about possible consequences from an action and how a specific action might affect others. For example, business and the jobs that dockworkers have, perishable cargo that might be waiting to be unloaded or scheduled to be loaded on ships that would have to just anchor and wait.

This is blocking the Willamette (stress on -lam-). There are a couple of marine terminals upstream from the St. John's bridge, but the traffic can probably be routed through terminals downstream or on the Columbia. In some cases there may be difficulty with logistics (is there enough railway or support for specific cargo?). If the Port of Portland is booked solid, a day can create a backlog and cost people a lot of money.

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your concern G_j Jul 2015 #25

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It's a reasonable question. Igel Jul 2015 #32

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meticulously planned out you say? retrowire Jul 2015 #46

Main channel of the Willamette. Lizzie Poppet Jul 2015 #28

So does the block the majority of the commercial shipping or is that downstream? EX500rider Jul 2015 #30

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