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TheMastersNemesis

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Sat Aug 1, 2015, 02:08 PM Aug 2015

The Truth Is We Need To Be A Democratic Socialist State Like Sweden, Norway, et al. [View all]

Our nation will not survive as decent place to live unless we become more like Sweden, Norway, et al. Democratic socialism is a much fairer system than what we have now. Taxes may be higher but most citizens have their basic needs met. And workers are more protected from the abuses of run away capitalism like we have in the US and many parts of the world now.

The trouble is that our ignoramuses in the US think that socialism is Marxism which it is not. And they would rather vote against themselves than risk someone undeserving, black, hispanic et al getting tax money. Too many voters would rather die without health care than have someone they look down on getting the same benefit. The GOP has been playing the "race" & "taker' card forever. Sadly it keeps working.

In reality if the GOP got its way on the domestic agenda the disabled, the elderly, the sick, minorities and other "unacceptable" would be out on the street, starving or dead. And the "elite" would have their protected environments like a country club. That is the GOP's ideal world where "their kind" get to make all the decisions on others fate.

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Damn straight. hifiguy Aug 2015 #1
The key is to arrange employment so that there is no employer! The crucial part the USSR missed. Gregorian Aug 2015 #2
Worker-owned enterprises are a big part of the fix. hifiguy Aug 2015 #12
+1 laundry_queen Aug 2015 #29
Most people don't differentiate between Socialist and Democratic Socialist notadmblnd Aug 2015 #3
Disagree here TeddyR Aug 2015 #4
Even the wealth inequality? jwirr Aug 2015 #11
Would you prefer laundry_queen Aug 2015 #31
K&R I'll be voting for a socialist in 2016 Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #5
Yep. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #6
Those countries are not democratic socialist states. former9thward Aug 2015 #7
Are you saying that they do not regulate their industries? I know that is what our industries want. jwirr Aug 2015 #10
He's saying that carbon-based energy makes up their top three exports. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #13
Thank you. jwirr Aug 2015 #15
Oh yeah like you don't know what I'm talking about. former9thward Aug 2015 #17
Bye, Bye jwirr Aug 2015 #19
Ah, the World War II fantasy U.S.A.... hunter Aug 2015 #21
I was describing budgetary reality. former9thward Aug 2015 #22
Pretty simple to use that money for useful and inspiring things instead. hunter Aug 2015 #30
I agree with everything you say. former9thward Aug 2015 #32
Sounds like an added benifit to me. stone space Aug 2015 #33
Who is willing to do it? former9thward Aug 2015 #38
These folks are. stone space Aug 2015 #40
They are not running for President. former9thward Aug 2015 #41
So? stone space Aug 2015 #43
Which means they will not change the system. former9thward Aug 2015 #44
So we, the people don't matter? stone space Aug 2015 #46
Asked and answered. former9thward Aug 2015 #47
I'm assuming that's a big fat "no". stone space Aug 2015 #48
there are people so stupid in America olddots Aug 2015 #8
One of the big reasons that democratic socialism works in those countries is because the jwirr Aug 2015 #9
Profit should be banished from all basic human needs, hifiguy Aug 2015 #14
Well said. Thank you. jwirr Aug 2015 #16
The DMV does not make a profit, but Apple stores do. Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #36
The DMV. Absolutely. hunter Aug 2015 #45
Companies in those country make profits just like ours do. former9thward Aug 2015 #18
Agree 100% colsohlibgal Aug 2015 #20
I've been told that Americans are too anti-social ... GeorgeGist Aug 2015 #23
It only works in nondiverse, resource rich countries. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #24
Norway is resource rich. Sweden, Finland and the Netherlands, not so much. As for diversity, pampango Aug 2015 #25
Diversity is recent, and right wing govts get elected soon after. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #26
"As to my pessimism, the nondiverse folks will be deported." If RW governments get elected, pampango Aug 2015 #27
Why Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Aug 2015 #28
America isn't Sweden or Norway. Drunken Irishman Aug 2015 #34
Ummm..... Sweden and Norway are capitalist countries. Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #35
Indeed, they are very much like the US under FDR. Capitalist but with high taxes, pampango Aug 2015 #37
Sweden, Norway, et. al. are 'capitalist' states, not 'democratic KingCharlemagne Aug 2015 #39
I agree. We're a generation or more away from getting even close. Adrahil Aug 2015 #42
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