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X_Digger

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22. Oh Bucky. *sigh*

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Sun Aug 2, 2015, 11:16 AM

Aug 2015

Utopian bullshit.

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We must do away with the absolutely specious notion that everybody has to earn a living. [View all] chalmers Aug 2015 OP

Massive K&R..... daleanime Aug 2015 #1

Did Fuller earn a living? Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #2

I don't know but I'm pretty sure he never invented the robots to bestow this paradise upon us. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #4

Sure he did, he "worked" on his inventions. Some people are smart this way and others has to "work" Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #7

Did Jesus cross the Rubicon? chalmers Aug 2015 #6

Jesus walked across the surface of the Rubicon. virtualobserver Aug 2015 #33

He was a college professor. Gidney N Cloyd Aug 2015 #47

Sure he worked. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #51

Are you kidding? WinkyDink Aug 2015 #112

The response was to the OP, I know he worked. Thinkingabout Aug 2015 #118

This message was self-deleted by its author Alkene Aug 2015 #3

While I agree with Aristotle on this one point Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #10

And Aristotle was so much duller than hifiguy Aug 2015 #80

I love his "gadfly" technique. Le Taz Hot Aug 2015 #84

Nowhere is the Socratic method employed with more systematization hifiguy Aug 2015 #99

well, trade bills and guest worker visas are a good start in that direction HFRN Aug 2015 #5

Is he saying -- Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #8

Would you work if you didn't have to worry about societal needs? chalmers Aug 2015 #12

Absolutely. I want to know I am useful. alphafemale Aug 2015 #20

Actually slugs have to do a lot to maintain their existence chalmers Aug 2015 #23

Touche' then. alphafemale Aug 2015 #26

labor and sheter in what way chalmers Aug 2015 #32

Agree. n/t lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #52

Would it make me a better person? Probably not. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #39

I think nearly every not lazy person wants to work and contribute. alphafemale Aug 2015 #55

Speaking as a disabled person Mojorabbit Aug 2015 #88

You can read a book into a recording from home alphafemale Aug 2015 #93

Yes and I am. Mojorabbit Aug 2015 #101

Depends upon what you mean by work. salib Aug 2015 #105

Can't wait.......lol EX500rider Aug 2015 #29

I thought the same thing but i think the reality will be closer to the jackass who shot Cecil Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #40

Probably. KamaAina Aug 2015 #141

So who does the work then? Who builds and fixes stuff? nt geek tragedy Aug 2015 #9

I think we could consider it TBF Aug 2015 #13

This is a big problem in the US. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #19

I really think the path Needa Moment Aug 2015 #74

Yep. hunter Aug 2015 #96

+1 n/t Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #129

Very Succinct Needa Moment Aug 2015 #140

+1 ronnie624 Aug 2015 #124

In the very near future, the robots pediatricmedic Aug 2015 #18

�kta m�nniskor~~~!!!!!! REAL HUMANS!!!!! MADem Aug 2015 #128

A terrific statement gratuitous Aug 2015 #11

Where....... WillowTree Aug 2015 #78

Print more money! FrodosPet Aug 2015 #91

Cut a couple of days out of the defense budget gratuitous Aug 2015 #100

Who will empty the chamber pots and clean the streets? seveneyes Aug 2015 #14

Work towards what, "progress" towards what? chalmers Aug 2015 #17

Very few people are working towards a cohesive society. Igel Aug 2015 #21

"empty the chamber pots and clean the streets" is not for the sake of work muriel_volestrangler Aug 2015 #41

Who cares if the streets are filthy? FrodosPet Aug 2015 #92

It takes only a small percentage of the population to cover that completely ... eppur_se_muova Aug 2015 #28

What a lovely thought! WillowTree Aug 2015 #75

Certainly true for males Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #125

should be an op elehhhhna Aug 2015 #130

We can use republican voters for the shist jobs. ileus Aug 2015 #64

I would rather not have to work for a living pintobean Aug 2015 #15

Why is it "utopian?" scscholar Aug 2015 #85

I don't think it's work itself that is a problem. ladyVet Aug 2015 #16

Right - we definitely need to get off that merry-go-round TBF Aug 2015 #24

I have no problem with helping people that cannot work. alphafemale Aug 2015 #25

examples please chalmers Aug 2015 #31

This thread is promoting the very notion. alphafemale Aug 2015 #34

How do you enforce that? dumbcat Aug 2015 #98

The quote in OP suggests that they will contribute and accomplish. salib Aug 2015 #106

How many of these narcissistic assholes that expect others to foot the bill do you actually know? notadmblnd Aug 2015 #67

This message was self-deleted by its author dumbcat Aug 2015 #108

Oh Bucky. *sigh* X_Digger Aug 2015 #22

If you think that is utopian bullshit chalmers Aug 2015 #30

Right, because it's either / or! (Not.) n/t X_Digger Aug 2015 #38

Brett and Jemaine are all over this... SidDithers Aug 2015 #27

This type of thinking is a sure fire way for Skidmore Aug 2015 #35

Maybe a bit off topic, but republicans force severely developmentally disabled Zorra Aug 2015 #36

I worked w. that population ( sounds like you did/do too) and I'm inclined to disagree. Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #42

No, that's not my point. Getting severely DD/other folks out in the community, Zorra Aug 2015 #48

Absolutely. It is the tyranny of the pragmatist. salib Aug 2015 #107

Yeah, my mom used to work at the Federal Reserve Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #127

Completely and vigorously disagree. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #53

Who are you to say what is good for them? I'm saying give them choices about Zorra Aug 2015 #61

Given the choice between sitting in front of the TV all day and working... lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #77

So, do you believe that every developmentally disabled person Zorra Aug 2015 #82

I am good friends with the parents of a young woman... lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #94

The expectation negates free will when we are forced to do things we don't want to do, and Zorra Aug 2015 #103

My belief that people with disabilities should be 100% included in society... lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #104

K&R Solly Mack Aug 2015 #37

how do we decide who has to work and who gets to play all his life? mainer Aug 2015 #43

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #44

There ARE people such as you describe tkmorris Aug 2015 #59

There is always a street that can be swept. alphafemale Aug 2015 #63

You have utterly missed the point tkmorris Aug 2015 #76

In Moscow circa 1984 Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #136

Just curious... does your own hard work make the world a better place? hunter Aug 2015 #110

I feel that most hard work every single day isn't compensated mainer Aug 2015 #114

Wow, great point. Thanks. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #138

You may mean that as a warning; Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #137

OMG BainsBane Aug 2015 #45

So how do you enforce the idea dumbcat Aug 2015 #73

Under both socialism and capitalism BainsBane Aug 2015 #81

So you are saying that it is not, "to each according to his need?" dumbcat Aug 2015 #97

We aren't there yet, but I think it is coming and sooner than most people realize. stevenleser Aug 2015 #119

Bread and circuses, it's all good folks. jalan48 Aug 2015 #46

I disagree. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #49

i think we also have to consider restorefreedom Aug 2015 #50

Working for a living is a highly overrated pastime with few redeeming features. Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #54

Wow. What a total bullshit philosophy. Buzz Clik Aug 2015 #56

I don't think it's total bullshit Major Nikon Aug 2015 #102

Give it 10 years. The labor force participation rate will be about 20% or so Recursion Aug 2015 #121

I support this idea Hydra Aug 2015 #57

My objection is that humanity tends toward free riding mythology Aug 2015 #113

Well, here's the problem Hydra Aug 2015 #116

There are many experiments and attempts to prove that wrong... Newest Reality Aug 2015 #135

I think we have to continue to work ... JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #58

Fuller is fighting the Bible, John Smith of the Massachusetts Bay Colony and Lenin. merrily Aug 2015 #60

It's not a matter of innovation Hydra Aug 2015 #65

That is what they are trying to sell us--and I do not mean only Republicans. merrily Aug 2015 #69

Count me in.....I've got fish to catch, and this job shit is getting in the way. ileus Aug 2015 #62

Maybe you should make it your job to catch fish? notadmblnd Aug 2015 #71

I actually have two friends that fish for a living. ileus Aug 2015 #89

there seems to be a general assumption that anyone not "working" is idle.... mike_c Aug 2015 #66

Well that's fine ibegurpard Aug 2015 #68

In America, it's considered unfair for some to be workings and others not. Thus, forcing people... AZ Progressive Aug 2015 #70

It's not idealism when the reality is due to technological advances we will have 100's JCMach1 Aug 2015 #83

I know lots of people that do not work. I'm one of them. I DO work on things I like to do.. BlueJazz Aug 2015 #72

"Would I contribute to a society where some people don't work? Most likely." lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #79

Money. I already contribute my time and $ at various shelters. Not something I wish to discuss. BlueJazz Aug 2015 #86

Surprising that some find this upsetting, or pie-in-the-sky bigmonkey Aug 2015 #87

Well then that's socialism vs capitalism there AZ Progressive Aug 2015 #90

Somtimes I wonder if just counteracting the continual propaganda might be enough. bigmonkey Aug 2015 #95

Rather than "earning a living," what if we simply call it "work"? mainer Aug 2015 #109

Heh MFrohike Aug 2015 #111

There still has to be incentive to get an education and work for some madville Aug 2015 #115

That's exactly how it works Hydra Aug 2015 #117

I have been working full time for 40 years Skittles Aug 2015 #120

I'm with you... MrMickeysMom Aug 2015 #122

Oh, so THAT'S where the idea came from HeiressofBickworth Aug 2015 #123

A few years back 1939 Aug 2015 #131

depends what you call a living 6chars Aug 2015 #126

Amen. Human beings are not worker ants. Admiral Loinpresser Aug 2015 #132

Amen #2. Thank you. n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #139

How many of the 1% actually EARN a living? hobbit709 Aug 2015 #133

there is lots to be done restorefreedom Aug 2015 #134

Did he ever read Vonnegut's Player Piano? KamaAina Aug 2015 #142