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46. So we, the people don't matter?

Sun Aug 2, 2015, 12:42 PM

Aug 2015

Which means they will not change the system.

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The Truth Is We Need To Be A Democratic Socialist State Like Sweden, Norway, et al. [View all] TheMastersNemesis Aug 2015 OP

Damn straight. hifiguy Aug 2015 #1

The key is to arrange employment so that there is no employer! The crucial part the USSR missed. Gregorian Aug 2015 #2

Worker-owned enterprises are a big part of the fix. hifiguy Aug 2015 #12

+1 laundry_queen Aug 2015 #29

Most people don't differentiate between Socialist and Democratic Socialist notadmblnd Aug 2015 #3

Disagree here TeddyR Aug 2015 #4

Even the wealth inequality? jwirr Aug 2015 #11

Would you prefer laundry_queen Aug 2015 #31

K&R I'll be voting for a socialist in 2016 Tierra_y_Libertad Aug 2015 #5

Yep. Arugula Latte Aug 2015 #6

Those countries are not democratic socialist states. former9thward Aug 2015 #7

Are you saying that they do not regulate their industries? I know that is what our industries want. jwirr Aug 2015 #10

He's saying that carbon-based energy makes up their top three exports. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #13

Thank you. jwirr Aug 2015 #15

Oh yeah like you don't know what I'm talking about. former9thward Aug 2015 #17

Bye, Bye jwirr Aug 2015 #19

Ah, the World War II fantasy U.S.A.... hunter Aug 2015 #21

I was describing budgetary reality. former9thward Aug 2015 #22

Pretty simple to use that money for useful and inspiring things instead. hunter Aug 2015 #30

I agree with everything you say. former9thward Aug 2015 #32

Sounds like an added benifit to me. stone space Aug 2015 #33

Who is willing to do it? former9thward Aug 2015 #38

These folks are. stone space Aug 2015 #40

They are not running for President. former9thward Aug 2015 #41

So? stone space Aug 2015 #43

Which means they will not change the system. former9thward Aug 2015 #44

So we, the people don't matter? stone space Aug 2015 #46

Asked and answered. former9thward Aug 2015 #47

I'm assuming that's a big fat "no". stone space Aug 2015 #48

there are people so stupid in America olddots Aug 2015 #8

One of the big reasons that democratic socialism works in those countries is because the jwirr Aug 2015 #9

Profit should be banished from all basic human needs, hifiguy Aug 2015 #14

Well said. Thank you. jwirr Aug 2015 #16

The DMV does not make a profit, but Apple stores do. Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #36

The DMV. Absolutely. hunter Aug 2015 #45

Companies in those country make profits just like ours do. former9thward Aug 2015 #18

Agree 100% colsohlibgal Aug 2015 #20

I've been told that Americans are too anti-social ... GeorgeGist Aug 2015 #23

It only works in nondiverse, resource rich countries. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #24

Norway is resource rich. Sweden, Finland and the Netherlands, not so much. As for diversity, pampango Aug 2015 #25

Diversity is recent, and right wing govts get elected soon after. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #26

"As to my pessimism, the nondiverse folks will be deported." If RW governments get elected, pampango Aug 2015 #27

Why Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Aug 2015 #28

America isn't Sweden or Norway. Drunken Irishman Aug 2015 #34

Ummm..... Sweden and Norway are capitalist countries. Nye Bevan Aug 2015 #35

Indeed, they are very much like the US under FDR. Capitalist but with high taxes, pampango Aug 2015 #37

Sweden, Norway, et. al. are 'capitalist' states, not 'democratic KingCharlemagne Aug 2015 #39

I agree. We're a generation or more away from getting even close. Adrahil Aug 2015 #42