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jberryhill

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45. I've already said I opposed the TPP

Tue Aug 4, 2015, 03:53 PM

Aug 2015

That does not mean that I support simpleminded rhetoric that is applicable to any treaty.

And, to be clear, I oppose the TPP if the final version, which appears unlikely now, includes the sorts of things that have been discussed at length in relation to leaked draft versions.

You may not understand that it is entirely possible to agree with a conclusion, and still be able to recognize a stupid rhetorical argument.

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TPP hits wall [View all] Panich52 Aug 2015 OP

Quelle Surprise jberryhill Aug 2015 #1

Really? I don't remember that. Demit Aug 2015 #4

Lol, yes. I heard the same thing again and again. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #23

The U.S. "fast track" approval was a done deal. JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #39

Good! whathehell Aug 2015 #2

You got that absolutely right. nt djean111 Aug 2015 #3

For me, the TPP outshadows everything else. ananda Aug 2015 #7

Yup, me too. whathehell Aug 2015 #8

I know. ananda Aug 2015 #41

Any treaty "undermines national sovereignty" jberryhill Aug 2015 #9

Representative democracy too? whathehell Aug 2015 #18

Yes, all treaties do both of those things jberryhill Aug 2015 #27

Um, no, not to the degree of this one.. whathehell Aug 2015 #30

I think you are still missing the point jberryhill Aug 2015 #35

I think you are.. whathehell Aug 2015 #38

Does every treaty allow US laws to be overturned by corporate courts like this one? No. grahamhgreen Aug 2015 #44

I've already said I opposed the TPP jberryhill Aug 2015 #45

+1 BeanMusical Aug 2015 #24

Clown car implosion. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #5

Good! City Lights Aug 2015 #6

k & r. Thanks for posting. nm rhett o rick Aug 2015 #10

Great! Now Obama can focus on Climate Change and getting Iran deal passed -nt- 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #11

Stop the whole TPP. End it. Finish it! Kaput! No trade deal! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #12

My sentiments exactly. n/t Betty Karlson Aug 2015 #48

Tell the Republicans there is a TPP provision that places the United Nations in charge of Enthusiast Aug 2015 #13

hopefully this is the start of the great unraveling. nt Javaman Aug 2015 #14

+1 daleanime Aug 2015 #21

maybe the overwhelming greed of the rich fucks will kill this deal rurallib Aug 2015 #15

They'll retreat, regroup and try again later. Maynar Aug 2015 #16

Kill it!!!!!! Fuddnik Aug 2015 #17

Now, why again do Hillary and Obama support it? jalan48 Aug 2015 #19

Maybe because they are corporatists? whathehell Aug 2015 #32

because it won't affect the party or their own legacies one whit--"think about SCOTUS" everyone says MisterP Aug 2015 #34

We can hope.... daleanime Aug 2015 #20

Come on other countries. Do the right thing and walk away. lark Aug 2015 #22

"totally burns my butt that Obama has sold out on sex slaves in Mayanmar. How can he sleep at nigh" BeanMusical Aug 2015 #26

Excellent. BeanMusical Aug 2015 #25

The TPP is a project of an international financial cabal . . FairWinds Aug 2015 #28

Canada held firm on protecting its politically sensitive dairy market... OnlinePoker Aug 2015 #29

And other countries need to hold firm on mad cow disease prevention standards... cascadiance Aug 2015 #31

Makes one think of Big Pharma's major seat at the negotiations... Panich52 Aug 2015 #46

Good. Now that it's stunned, drive a stake through its heart. Buns_of_Fire Aug 2015 #33

I'll believe it when we see bbgrunt Aug 2015 #36

Once again, we see why Bernie is a menace and a threat MannyGoldstein Aug 2015 #37

I can understand Obama's thought about trying to set trade rules GitRDun Aug 2015 #40

Rec this reply Panich52 Aug 2015 #47

Crash and burn baby! Populist_Prole Aug 2015 #42

I'm rooting for Japanese farmers. Dems to Win Aug 2015 #43