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Zorra

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31. Hillary Clinton Sides with NSA over Snowden Disclosures
Wed Aug 5, 2015, 12:16 PM
Aug 2015
Likely 2016 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has taken a firm stance against the actions of NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden, denying his revelations have brought any positive impacts and slamming him for accepting asylum in Russia.

Speaking with NPR's Terry Gross on Thursday, Clinton claimed Snowden could have "expressed his concerns" in other ways "by reaching out to some of the senators or other members of Congress or journalists in order to convey his questions about the implementation of the laws surrounding the collection of information concerning Americans' calls and emails."

Her comments sparked criticism from progressives, journalists and civil liberties advocates.
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The former U.S. Secretary of State defended U.S. mass surveillance, stating, "collecting information about what’s going around the world is essential to our security." She added, "The pieces about the metadata collection, the other impacts on Americans, is a small sliver of what was stolen. Most of what was stolen concerned the surveillance that the United States undertakes, totally legally, against other nations."

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/06/13/hillary-clinton-sides-nsa-over-snowden-disclosures


On the NSA, Hillary Clinton Is Either a Fool or a Liar

Who is the true patriot, Hillary Clinton or Edward Snowden? The question comes up because Clinton has gone all out in attacking Snowden as a means of burnishing her hawkish credentials, eliciting Glenn Greenwald’s comment that she is “like a neocon, practically.”

On Friday in England, Clinton boasted that two years ago she had favored a proposal by a top British General to train 100,000 “moderate” rebels to overthrow the Assad regime in Syria, but Obama had turned her down. The American Thatcher? In that same interview with the Guardian she also managed to get in yet another shot against Snowden for taking refuge in Russia “apparently under Putin’s protection,” unless, she taunted, “he wishes to return knowing he would be held accountable.”

Accountable for telling the truth that Clinton concealed during her tenure as secretary of state in the Obama administration? Did she approve of the systematic spying on the American people as well as of others around the world, including the leaders of Germany and Brazil, or did she first learn of all this from the Snowden revelations?

On Saturday, a carefully vetted four-month investigation by The Washington Post based on material made available by Snowden revealed that while Clinton was in the government, the NSA had collected a vast trove of often intimate Internet correspondence and photos of innocent Americans, including many users of Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Microsoft and other leading Internet companies. The Post reported many files “described as useless by the [NSA] analysts but nonetheless retained…have a voyeuristic quality. They tell stories of love and heartbreak, illicit sexual liaisons, mental-health crises, political and religious conversions, financial anxieties and disappointed hopes.”

http://www.thenation.com/article/nsa-hillary-clinton-either-fool-or-liar/

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Can't even pretend to be shocked. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #1
So Obama is ok with this? This is totally crazy. jalan48 Aug 2015 #2
All I know is: heaven05 Aug 2015 #6
I thought J. Edgar was dead. AllFieldsRequired Aug 2015 #51
Obama does not know all and control all. I realize certain folks believe all black men are super human, but still. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #7
Yes-that could be. But now that it's public I'm sure he will put a stop to it. jalan48 Aug 2015 #8
Folks in the GOP pretending Obama is not beloved by black folk in America are funny are they not? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #9
You think the ACLU is GOP? jalan48 Aug 2015 #10
Do you not think Obama and BLM are one and the same? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #11
Oh-sorry, I thought you were referring to the article. I've always been a fan of the ACLU myself. jalan48 Aug 2015 #13
Of course not. I would assume he supports them though. jalan48 Aug 2015 #15
I have no doubt that 8 years ago, the story hughee99 Aug 2015 #12
Yes. Some folks know who really watches the black folks carefully, and with fear, and it is not Obama. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #16
True, but now that Obama (or at least his people) are aware of it, this will surely stop hughee99 Aug 2015 #19
Because Obama controls all of the judicial, security and surveillance system from his WH Black Magic room? Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #20
Uh, he is the president. He's in charge of the executive branch. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #48
Are these the same alledged guys who spied on Germany and Brazil? Where was Obama on that also, one might also ask - using Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #50
Well, those were probably NSA guys, while these are probably Homeland Security guys. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #52
Yeah because Obama is all powerful like that ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #21
You miss the point. jalan48 Aug 2015 #23
Give it up, your "point" fell off the logic train an hour ago. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #25
Ah yes, I see you are a true believer Fred. jalan48 Aug 2015 #26
I am bored of the folks believing in nothing more than generalities and slaps to the intellect, is all. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #29
Hey, it's all good. At least the government is spying on both sides. jalan48 Aug 2015 #30
A chance to slam Obama because....reasons!....but rather incompetently played out, so it is all good. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #24
If you're looking for imcompetence, take a look at the "Obama has no control over his own agencies" hughee99 Aug 2015 #33
Fred, I thought about it and I think you may be right. jalan48 Aug 2015 #41
The think some folks have been playing too long in open fields of strawmen. Fred Sanders Aug 2015 #46
Absolutely. Who can you trust these days? jalan48 Aug 2015 #47
Such an unbelievable bullshit copout. hughee99 Aug 2015 #32
I think it's called the inability to think critically. Not sure it can be fixed quickly. jalan48 Aug 2015 #34
You know that really hurt my feelings ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #37
I'm sorry. How else do you explain folks being ok with the Obama Administration spying on BLM? jalan48 Aug 2015 #40
Who is ok with it? ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #43
Good, I can be a bit sarcastic at times but I didn't intend to hurt. jalan48 Aug 2015 #44
Yes indeed ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #45
Whatever dude ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #38
He's in that bubble unless someone points this out to him. L0oniX Aug 2015 #18
There have been attacks on cops, so I don't mind them looking sub.theory Aug 2015 #42
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Dear Government trolls oldandhappy Aug 2015 #4
This should provide an interesting conundrum for some folks. stevenleser Aug 2015 #5
~ L0oniX Aug 2015 #17
Perfect! ismnotwasm Aug 2015 #22
Or not. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #35
Jesus, Leser, give it a rest. n/t Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #49
Wow MFrohike Aug 2015 #53
This should be illegal. People should be put on trial for this. fbc Aug 2015 #14
Hissy fit wss2001 Aug 2015 #27
Oddly enough the Tea Party joined with the ACLU d_legendary1 Aug 2015 #39
They should be watching the cops... freebrew Aug 2015 #28
Hillary Clinton Sides with NSA over Snowden Disclosures Zorra Aug 2015 #31
This is no different than the slow sadoldgirl Aug 2015 #36
Fun thread MFrohike Aug 2015 #54
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