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Thu Aug 6, 2015, 09:56 AM Aug 2015

Rolling Stone: The Point of No Return: Climate Change Nightmares Are Already Here [View all]

Historians may look to 2015 as the year when shit really started hitting the fan. Some snapshots: In just the past few months, record-setting heat waves in Pakistan and India each killed more than 1,000 people. In Washington state's Olympic National Park, the rainforest caught fire for the first time in living memory. London reached 98 degrees Fahrenheit during the hottest July day ever recorded in the U.K.; The Guardian briefly had to pause its live blog of the heat wave because its computer servers overheated. In California, suffering from its worst drought in a millennium, a 50-acre brush fire swelled seventyfold in a matter of hours, jumping across the I-15 freeway during rush-hour traffic. Then, a few days later, the region was pounded by intense, virtually unheard-of summer rains. Puerto Rico is under its strictest water rationing in history as a monster El Niño forms in the tropical Pacific Ocean, shifting weather patterns worldwide.

...sea levels could rise 10 times faster than previously predicted: 10 feet by 2065. The authors included this chilling warning: If emissions aren't cut, "We conclude that multi-meter sea-level rise would become practically unavoidable. Social disruption and economic consequences of such large sea-level rise could be devastating. It is not difficult to imagine that conflicts arising from forced migrations and economic collapse might make the planet ungovernable, threatening the fabric of civilization...."

So far, dead zones have remained mostly close to the coasts, but in the 21st century, deep-ocean dead zones could become common. These low-oxygen regions could gradually expand in size — potentially thousands of miles across — which would force fish, whales, pretty much everything upward. If this were to occur, large sections of the temperate deep oceans would suffer should the oxygen-free layer grow so pronounced that it stratifies, pushing surface ocean warming into overdrive and hindering upwelling of cooler, nutrient-rich deeper water.

...Enhanced evaporation from the warmer oceans will create heavier downpours, perhaps destabilizing the root systems of forests, and accelerated runoff will pour more excess nutrients into coastal areas, further enhancing dead zones. In the past year, downpours have broken records in Long Island, Phoenix, Detroit, Baltimore, Houston and Pensacola, Florida.

Evidence for the above scenario comes in large part from our best understanding of what happened 250 million years ago, during the "Great Dying," when more than 90 percent of all oceanic species perished after a pulse of carbon dioxide and methane from land-based sources began a period of profound climate change. The conditions that triggered "Great Dying" took hundreds of thousands of years to develop. But humans have been emitting carbon dioxide at a much quicker rate, so the current mass extinction only took 100 years or so to kick-start.


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/the-point-of-no-return-climate-change-nightmares-are-already-here-20150805?page=4

Alarming article.

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Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Aug 2015 #1
Been Waiting For This billhicks76 Aug 2015 #61
no kidding, I thought I was used to Houston rain storms untill those inches an hour rains started. Sunlei Aug 2015 #2
Yes the area is subsiding and tipping southeastward too due to heavy removal of waters DhhD Aug 2015 #73
Yep. bemildred Aug 2015 #3
think if a huge piece slid off at once it would make a tusunami wave so high it would wash over Sunlei Aug 2015 #7
They estimate a sea level rise measured in meters when that happens. bemildred Aug 2015 #8
Okay, we're still talking about glaciers here. Fast for a glacier is still slow for a snail. tclambert Aug 2015 #34
That comments section is a sewer of denialists n2doc Aug 2015 #4
Simply unreal...delusional arsholes every single one... truebrit71 Aug 2015 #17
The deep South = biggest climate deniers Duppers Aug 2015 #31
What's a mere 9 billion population consuming on the planet, pfft! appalachiablue Aug 2015 #42
+1 jimlup Aug 2015 #33
Yup. The freepers and oil industry flacks are working overtime in there. nt Maven Aug 2015 #41
is there anyway a giant 'airstone' could be lowered into sea deadzones to force some cold water Sunlei Aug 2015 #5
The volumes are too huge n2doc Aug 2015 #9
Come on - everyone knows Venice, Italy is the "canary in the coal mine." yallerdawg Aug 2015 #6
Ahh, Venice. So quaint and picturesque. Imagine NYC with canals instead of Avenues. erronis Aug 2015 #11
The Hamptons will be underwater by that time. Javaman Aug 2015 #20
those people need some kind of street watervehicles like slow jet skis. Sunlei Aug 2015 #13
Never understood why someone would build a city on a swamp. nt cstanleytech Aug 2015 #18
+1. For real. Although I saw Florence and Rome, didn't make it to Venice. My mon & sister loved it. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #43
I've heard it's like living at Disneyland, giant parking lot built on an artificial island included. hunter Aug 2015 #85
Wow! Amazing photos! smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #50
But let's defund Planned Parenthood tblue Aug 2015 #10
we many need to eat those cute, well fed on 'hydrolyzed protein' extra, excess babies Sunlei Aug 2015 #14
Yep, that's the low information "shiney object" of the day... Raster Aug 2015 #67
kick, kick, kick.... daleanime Aug 2015 #12
Thanks for the post, Generic Other. City Lights Aug 2015 #15
It's time to prioritize the issues. jalan48 Aug 2015 #16
Thank you SoLeftIAmRight Aug 2015 #19
IT's not like people haven't been warned for years and years... Blue_Tires Aug 2015 #21
It's not like the GOP and Wall Street didn't know about this for decades. Rex Aug 2015 #46
In the last couple of weeks, we've had between 20-40" of rain in the Tampa area. Fuddnik Aug 2015 #22
And in the Seattle area a record heat wave Generic Other Aug 2015 #38
One Positive Thing Though Rafale Aug 2015 #23
Now there's a positive outlook! smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #51
I have been posting this vid for a few years Go Vols Aug 2015 #24
That's a very good argument. tclambert Aug 2015 #36
That's a keeper! smirkymonkey Aug 2015 #53
Thanks for the OP lark Aug 2015 #25
And yet, the entire tea party, most of the republican party, especially the legislators AllFieldsRequired Aug 2015 #26
"already" ?! We have done nothing but increase gas emissions for 45 years. GreatGazoo Aug 2015 #27
We've done EXACTLY what the Petroligarchy have wanted us to do. Raster Aug 2015 #68
I am so pessimistic at this point. drm604 Aug 2015 #28
I have an answer...... roomtomove Aug 2015 #29
It's not just climate nightmares GliderGuider Aug 2015 #30
Add to that we get something like 90% of our oxygen from the Phytoplancton in the oceans. Dustlawyer Aug 2015 #49
Phytoplankton may already be going into decline. GliderGuider Aug 2015 #55
Regardless of any of this, the sun will burn out someday tularetom Aug 2015 #54
Whether our intention is salvation or exploitation, whatever we do simply changes the Earth GliderGuider Aug 2015 #56
We know we are all going to hang. Some of us just don't want to help build the scaffold. n/t jtuck004 Aug 2015 #64
No real leadership marions ghost Aug 2015 #78
It's been building for 200 years but we only began to recognize it as a problem 40 years ago GliderGuider Aug 2015 #79
I come from a family of biologists, doctors, and three marine scientists-- marions ghost Aug 2015 #82
K & R Duppers Aug 2015 #32
Ignorance is bliss, until it isn't. nt Mnemosyne Aug 2015 #62
Oh, we're doomed alright. SpankMe Aug 2015 #35
And you can bet yer last dollar... Gumboot Aug 2015 #37
it's seriously treason and the worst possibly idiocy Fast Walker 52 Aug 2015 #72
Tomorrow (Friday) NOAA will report global temperatures for July. tclambert Aug 2015 #39
Yay? Nay! nt GliderGuider Aug 2015 #40
Kicked and recommended to the Max! Enthusiast Aug 2015 #44
Of course they are and like millions of others, I will watch as we finish off OUR ecosystem. Rex Aug 2015 #45
This^^^^ heaven05 Aug 2015 #47
You want to hear something really weird? ladyVet Aug 2015 #48
Our June was almost entirely 90 degree days--unheard of--in Chapel Hill (NC) mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #76
Glad I didn't have kids PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #52
I am glad to be childless too. It may be perverse of me, but I'm glad that I'm not too old. GliderGuider Aug 2015 #57
I don't want to see it... PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #58
There's a thread on this subject... Duppers Aug 2015 #63
Thanks! PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #90
My co-worker had his two kids in the office yesterday. Raster Aug 2015 #69
It's such a different world now PasadenaTrudy Aug 2015 #89
Anchorage is on track to have the most 70+ degree days in a single summer, Blue_In_AK Aug 2015 #59
gulp. BlancheSplanchnik Aug 2015 #60
This part stood out.... Spitfire of ATJ Aug 2015 #65
We should not be paying attention to this part. JayhawkSD Aug 2015 #77
Super Typhoon to hit Taiwan Hissyspit Aug 2015 #66
Well, heck. Best get to investing even more in corporations. raouldukelives Aug 2015 #70
Check out ExtinctionRadio.org for weekly updates on climate change egold2604 Aug 2015 #71
And listen to the denier states howl for immediate help DFW Aug 2015 #74
Starts off good... JayhawkSD Aug 2015 #75
What if the problem really IS that serious? GliderGuider Aug 2015 #80
Did you read what I wrote? JayhawkSD Aug 2015 #83
How could "our cause" possibly get any weaker? GliderGuider Aug 2015 #84
There is just something about climate change that .. ananda Aug 2015 #81
A lot of it has to do with how our brains are wired. GliderGuider Aug 2015 #86
Hmm.. that groupthink phenomenon is ominous for sure. ananda Aug 2015 #92
The world's population has nearly doubled in my lifetime. Driving a Prius won't change that. nt Romulox Aug 2015 #87
I was born in 1950, right as things were taking off. GliderGuider Aug 2015 #91
I think that movie "Day After Tomorrow" didn't help because frankieallen Aug 2015 #88
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