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KansDem

(28,498 posts)
23. I used to listen to them and engage in "friendly debate."
Sat May 19, 2012, 10:41 AM
May 2012

Usually the debate would end with them saying, "Well, we can agree to disagree" and that's that.

Now I just call them "stupid" and walk away.

For example, recently I have "debates" about"
Social Security--the other person said it was "welfare." I said it wasn't and that it is an insurance policy. He said "No, it's welfare." I compared it to his auto, life, home, and health insurance. We all pay premiums and it's there for when we need it. He said, "No, it's welfare." I said, "You're stupid," and walked away.

"Tax cuts create jobs"--I debated this right-wing canard with someone who swore up and down that cutting taxes will create jobs. I said "No, that doesn't work. We tried that with Reagan's "Trickle Down" (30 years) and Bush's tax cuts for the rich (10 years) and we have one of the the highest unemployment rates in recent memory. He said, "No, tax cuts will stimulate the economy." I said, "No, we tried that. It didn't work." Finally I said, "I have facts and experience on the side of my argument. You have nothing. You're stupid," and walked away.

Sorry, but I just don't want to f*ck with them anymore...

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you laugh in their faces. unblock May 2012 #1
I trust you don't seriously imagine that would happen. Jackpine Radical May 2012 #3
ridicule is the ONLY thing that has a chance of (eventually) breaking them free unblock May 2012 #15
You just feed into their persecution complexes. Jackpine Radical May 2012 #22
When I showed my mother the results of the study that showed Maraya1969 May 2012 #30
There is no point in trying to convince them of anything. Zalatix May 2012 #37
You can't, people usually need to see it in their own lives marlakay May 2012 #2
See my post #30 Maraya1969 May 2012 #32
I'm surprised most people who watch fox marlakay May 2012 #39
She kind of fell into the wrong crowd after my Dad died and was influenced Maraya1969 May 2012 #40
I would guess then that she was never as far-gone as many on the right, Jackpine Radical May 2012 #43
Talk about the weather or some TV show, SalviaBlue May 2012 #4
Yeah, I'm not in that situation, but see the value of agreeing to disagree among family. pinto May 2012 #6
Hey sis! vanlassie May 2012 #34
Use facts that are pertinent to their individual situation. Relate it to *them*, not some vague pinto May 2012 #5
They might just be saying the same thing about you Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #7
Nobody wants to be called stupid... kentuck May 2012 #9
I dunno. Nuclear Unicorn May 2012 #11
I would like to see people change with elections... kentuck May 2012 #13
It's hard -- we're wired that way... immoderate May 2012 #8
this is exactly why they need to be laughed at. unblock May 2012 #17
Also... gulliver May 2012 #35
Excellent! Goes back to the premise, you don't need to be crazy... immoderate May 2012 #44
Indeed... kentuck May 2012 #45
Maybe we can get an extremely literate douchebag to talk to them? Tommy_Carcetti May 2012 #10
Ultimately you walk away shaking your head. hifiguy May 2012 #12
I guess.... kentuck May 2012 #20
Yep! treestar May 2012 #26
Someone on DU recently called Karl Marx a 'reactionary'. I immediately coalition_unwilling May 2012 #29
It is not; the nature of the meaning of words got hifiguy May 2012 #33
Almost impossible to argue with dictators, and make no mistake that is what they want Bandit May 2012 #14
Answer: You don't, you chalk it up as a loss and move on... truebrit71 May 2012 #16
I think this sequence from Bull Durham fits .... JoePhilly May 2012 #18
Our Republic was founded and based on the Liberal Enlightenment librechik May 2012 #19
As far as I know, there is no way to communicate with a person who has a closed mind. nt ladjf May 2012 #21
I used to listen to them and engage in "friendly debate." KansDem May 2012 #23
You can't, you don't. I have decades of experience with my mom whose the worst sort of Republican riderinthestorm May 2012 #24
Raising your voice and flailing your arms around sometimes helps slackmaster May 2012 #25
I went to a party with a girlfriend some years back and she ended up so blitzed (somehow) TheKentuckian May 2012 #27
I find open-ended questions sometimes help. My problem comes when coalition_unwilling May 2012 #28
You don't. lonestarnot May 2012 #31
You have to go sub-cortical, imo gulliver May 2012 #36
Trick question. You cannot. Rex May 2012 #38
How very succinct.... kentuck May 2012 #41
Short answer: you can't. nt daaron May 2012 #42
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