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(56,582 posts) Thu Aug 6, 2015, 01:05 PM Aug 2015

Dick Dale has single payer and spends $3000/month to stay alive [View all]

If anyone is curious why there is skepticism about expanding Medicare to all:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2015/08/03/1408454/-Legendary-guitarist-forced-to-stay-on-tour-to-pay-his-medical-expenses

Dick Dale (think the crazy surf guitar solo in "Pulp Fiction&quot is still touring at the age of 78 because he has to pay $3K / month for his medical expenses.

He's 78, so he's on Medicare.

You know, the single payer system we want to expand to everyone.

I think there's more to this story and that a national insurance system like Medicare is probably a good idea, but this is a horrible story for us to lead with.

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Dick Dale has single payer and spends $3000/month to stay alive [View all] Recursion Aug 2015 OP

We have moved forwards a bit on this.... daleanime Aug 2015 #1

We are not getting the whole story on this one yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #30

If you didn't make enough SS wages, it will cost you. Look it up. hobbit709 Aug 2015 #87

She is much younger than him TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #99

I saw this article, and find dofus Aug 2015 #2

He could buy a Medigap policy for a few hundred TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #10

I was wondering about that. dofus Aug 2015 #52

Shhhhh....don't mess up the OPs fake outrage otherwise he will have to find some other Rex Aug 2015 #58

Can he buy Medigap now, with a pre-existing condition? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #106

Medigap policies are purchased from private insurers TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #110

While it definitely looks like we are moving closer and closer to a single payer system.... cbdo2007 Aug 2015 #3

Medicare isn't single payer. KG Aug 2015 #4

Yes, it is. "Single Payer" is often branded as "Medicare for All" Recursion Aug 2015 #5

If it is single payer, why do we have to buy medicare supplemental insurance. demigoddess Aug 2015 #90

There are supplemental health policies in Canada and the UK too (nt) Recursion Aug 2015 #93

What is it then? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #27

Of course it is not, the OP is just stirring shit to get negative replies. Rex Aug 2015 #59

+1 Zorra Aug 2015 #82

Been doing that since they started posting on DU3. Rex Aug 2015 #89

I guess this country is just to damn poor to provide health care to its citizens. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #6

Sounds like a reason to be skeptical of single payer Recursion Aug 2015 #7

So do you work for the private health care industry that you would Cleita Aug 2015 #15

OFFS, somebody already posted this complaining about our health care system Recursion Aug 2015 #18

No, it sounds like a reason to rejigger our priorities. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #16

So the only way to have single-payer is if it doesn't cover serious medical conditions?? Wilms Aug 2015 #8

Why doesn't Medicare cover his condition? Recursion Aug 2015 #76

Wut? Wilms Aug 2015 #86

There's a very popular post in GD right now quoting this same article Recursion Aug 2015 #94

Scanning this thread... Wilms Aug 2015 #113

Thoughts. Cleita Aug 2015 #9

^^^This^^^n/t Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #19

musicians don't pay into social security and medicare nashville_brook Aug 2015 #61

They are still eligible for Medicare and certain conditions like kidney Cleita Aug 2015 #66

Renal failure at any age is covered by Medicare Recursion Aug 2015 #74

They still have to give him care. There is more to it than just Cleita Aug 2015 #77

There is. This post is a response to a much more-recommended post on the same article Recursion Aug 2015 #78

Yes, but 1939 Aug 2015 #102

As a lifelong musician it is gig to gig but redstateblues Aug 2015 #104

So we can't expand it and fix/fund it at the same time? Kermitt Gribble Aug 2015 #11

Also Daily Kos is backing Hillary Clinton for President, a woman Cleita Aug 2015 #17

DK is actually like DU there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #22

So, keep on buying private insurance? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #12

Yeah, that's where I'm heading too Recursion Aug 2015 #13

We have a country with over 300 million people... TreasonousBastard Aug 2015 #14

So why is centrally-controlled health care the right answer? Recursion Aug 2015 #20

Considering Vermont's failed flirtation with SP how do we overcome the fact Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #35

They'll all *have* the revenue but they won't want to tax it Recursion Aug 2015 #36

That's why it has to be national or at least regional like in Canada. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #37

Canada is by-province, isn't it? Recursion Aug 2015 #56

I'm not saying it is... TreasonousBastard Aug 2015 #65

I am 100% in agreement with you there Recursion Aug 2015 #67

Medicare is not full single payer. It's '80%' of it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #21

So we don't actually mean "Medicare for All"? Recursion Aug 2015 #23

The people who simply wanted to expand medicare were using that as a stepping stone towards Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #28

Well, hell, ACA is a stepping stone and it's crapped upon daily Recursion Aug 2015 #31

The difference is that private insurance companies are central to the ACA. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #32

Private insurance companies are central to Medicare!!! Recursion Aug 2015 #34

Yes, various Republican congresses let the fox into the henhouse for Cleita Aug 2015 #43

The 3% only counts Medicare getting the money from the Trust Fund to Anthem Recursion Aug 2015 #45

So what. Anthem has to follow strict protocol set up by Medicare. They Cleita Aug 2015 #49

What is 'provisioning' in this context? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #47

Writing the actual checks and taking the actual receipts Recursion Aug 2015 #48

The only thing I would change is make it 100% coverage and have it cover Cleita Aug 2015 #33

I'd love to see dental included in wherever we go from here Recursion Aug 2015 #51

Medicare for all. Orsino Aug 2015 #57

Are you a recent business school graduate? Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2015 #24

No Recursion Aug 2015 #26

It is sad, but the OP is always amusing Rex Aug 2015 #41

Probably a "small business owner who listens to both sides". nt Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2015 #64

My God you guys need some new material Recursion Aug 2015 #75

I don't think DU does anything. There are individuals at DU with a number of different perspectives Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2015 #79

So, my calling for a $25 minimum wage is "skewing right"? Recursion Aug 2015 #80

So, what exactly was your advice for the Democratic party again? Man, you make that DU guy sound Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2015 #88

... Rex Aug 2015 #91

Yeah? Well, a decade ago he wasn't such an asshole, when I first met him Recursion Aug 2015 #92

Somewhat to the left! Wow you are so funny! Rex Aug 2015 #95

Medicare is single payer Recursion Aug 2015 #96

You are the one pretending medicare is single payer nobody else in this thread is. Rex Aug 2015 #98

OMFG do you not even know what "single payer" means? Recursion Aug 2015 #100

Again you are the only person in here pretending to know something that is apparent Rex Aug 2015 #103

As I said. He sounds terrible. It's a shame that you're forced to hang out with him. And if "moving Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2015 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Aug 2015 #85

He is choosing to swap out his equipment madville Aug 2015 #25

My husband was on dialysis and I didn't find this at all. Cleita Aug 2015 #39

He's doing something wrong, then. Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2015 #29

That's been my experience with it too. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #38

musicians generally don't pay into social security and medicare nashville_brook Aug 2015 #60

Do you mean he didn't file a tax return for $60 years? TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #62

his income wasn't wages. nashville_brook Aug 2015 #63

so maybe he does NOT have medicare then hfojvt Aug 2015 #72

Part A is essentially guaranteed Recursion Aug 2015 #73

You have to pay in for 40 quarters (10 years) TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #81

Mr. Dale refused medicare for whatever reason that we do not know and the article does not say. Rex Aug 2015 #101

Depends Recursion Aug 2015 #71

I have made my living playing music for 30 years redstateblues Aug 2015 #108

... Rex Aug 2015 #40

Go on... Recursion Aug 2015 #42

Yes next you will tell us why we need to get rid of social security. Rex Aug 2015 #44

So, no actual response? Recursion Aug 2015 #46

Why would I expect you to be a serious poster here when you post RWing crap? Rex Aug 2015 #53

took my observation and made an OP out of it hfojvt Aug 2015 #50

Slow week...they couldn't run off Octa so now have to try something different. Rex Aug 2015 #54

I've been saying this for like 5 years now Recursion Aug 2015 #55

I cannot play trumpet any more hfojvt Aug 2015 #68

Where does it say he is on Medicare?? Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2015 #69

He's a US citizen over the age of 65 Recursion Aug 2015 #70

No, you have to sign UP for Medicare -- Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2015 #83

Funny how little the OP knows about a subject they pretend to be an expert on. Rex Aug 2015 #97

If like most musicians he never made enough to qualify for Social Security hobbit709 Aug 2015 #84

If you mean he never reported his income TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #107

I'm sure Dick Dale had some really good years redstateblues Aug 2015 #109

Maybe you should do more research on Dick Dale and Medicare ... GeorgeGist Aug 2015 #111

so we should stick with the profit model, cuz it's great!!! Doctor_J Aug 2015 #112