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67. I am 100% in agreement with you there

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 02:44 PM

Aug 2015

I think delivery is the real issue here, rather than provisioning. We could emulate Canada's system down to the last millimeter and we still couldn't afford it, because the delivery systems have gotten addicted to the money and won't give it up without some extreme alterations.

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Dick Dale has single payer and spends $3000/month to stay alive [View all] Recursion Aug 2015 OP

We have moved forwards a bit on this.... daleanime Aug 2015 #1

We are not getting the whole story on this one yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #30

If you didn't make enough SS wages, it will cost you. Look it up. hobbit709 Aug 2015 #87

She is much younger than him TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #99

I saw this article, and find dofus Aug 2015 #2

He could buy a Medigap policy for a few hundred TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #10

I was wondering about that. dofus Aug 2015 #52

Shhhhh....don't mess up the OPs fake outrage otherwise he will have to find some other Rex Aug 2015 #58

Can he buy Medigap now, with a pre-existing condition? JustABozoOnThisBus Aug 2015 #106

Medigap policies are purchased from private insurers TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #110

While it definitely looks like we are moving closer and closer to a single payer system.... cbdo2007 Aug 2015 #3

Medicare isn't single payer. KG Aug 2015 #4

Yes, it is. "Single Payer" is often branded as "Medicare for All" Recursion Aug 2015 #5

If it is single payer, why do we have to buy medicare supplemental insurance. demigoddess Aug 2015 #90

There are supplemental health policies in Canada and the UK too (nt) Recursion Aug 2015 #93

What is it then? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2015 #27

Of course it is not, the OP is just stirring shit to get negative replies. Rex Aug 2015 #59

+1 Zorra Aug 2015 #82

Been doing that since they started posting on DU3. Rex Aug 2015 #89

I guess this country is just to damn poor to provide health care to its citizens. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #6

Sounds like a reason to be skeptical of single payer Recursion Aug 2015 #7

So do you work for the private health care industry that you would Cleita Aug 2015 #15

OFFS, somebody already posted this complaining about our health care system Recursion Aug 2015 #18

No, it sounds like a reason to rejigger our priorities. Comrade Grumpy Aug 2015 #16

So the only way to have single-payer is if it doesn't cover serious medical conditions?? Wilms Aug 2015 #8

Why doesn't Medicare cover his condition? Recursion Aug 2015 #76

Wut? Wilms Aug 2015 #86

There's a very popular post in GD right now quoting this same article Recursion Aug 2015 #94

Scanning this thread... Wilms Aug 2015 #113

Thoughts. Cleita Aug 2015 #9

^^^This^^^n/t Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #19

musicians don't pay into social security and medicare nashville_brook Aug 2015 #61

They are still eligible for Medicare and certain conditions like kidney Cleita Aug 2015 #66

Renal failure at any age is covered by Medicare Recursion Aug 2015 #74

They still have to give him care. There is more to it than just Cleita Aug 2015 #77

There is. This post is a response to a much more-recommended post on the same article Recursion Aug 2015 #78

Yes, but 1939 Aug 2015 #102

As a lifelong musician it is gig to gig but redstateblues Aug 2015 #104

So we can't expand it and fix/fund it at the same time? Kermitt Gribble Aug 2015 #11

Also Daily Kos is backing Hillary Clinton for President, a woman Cleita Aug 2015 #17

DK is actually like DU there. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #22

So, keep on buying private insurance? Starry Messenger Aug 2015 #12

Yeah, that's where I'm heading too Recursion Aug 2015 #13

We have a country with over 300 million people... TreasonousBastard Aug 2015 #14

So why is centrally-controlled health care the right answer? Recursion Aug 2015 #20

Considering Vermont's failed flirtation with SP how do we overcome the fact Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #35

They'll all *have* the revenue but they won't want to tax it Recursion Aug 2015 #36

That's why it has to be national or at least regional like in Canada. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #37

Canada is by-province, isn't it? Recursion Aug 2015 #56

I'm not saying it is... TreasonousBastard Aug 2015 #65

I am 100% in agreement with you there Recursion Aug 2015 #67

Medicare is not full single payer. It's '80%' of it. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #21

So we don't actually mean "Medicare for All"? Recursion Aug 2015 #23

The people who simply wanted to expand medicare were using that as a stepping stone towards Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #28

Well, hell, ACA is a stepping stone and it's crapped upon daily Recursion Aug 2015 #31

The difference is that private insurance companies are central to the ACA. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #32

Private insurance companies are central to Medicare!!! Recursion Aug 2015 #34

Yes, various Republican congresses let the fox into the henhouse for Cleita Aug 2015 #43

The 3% only counts Medicare getting the money from the Trust Fund to Anthem Recursion Aug 2015 #45

So what. Anthem has to follow strict protocol set up by Medicare. They Cleita Aug 2015 #49

What is 'provisioning' in this context? nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #47

Writing the actual checks and taking the actual receipts Recursion Aug 2015 #48

The only thing I would change is make it 100% coverage and have it cover Cleita Aug 2015 #33

I'd love to see dental included in wherever we go from here Recursion Aug 2015 #51

Medicare for all. Orsino Aug 2015 #57

Are you a recent business school graduate? Hassin Bin Sober Aug 2015 #24

No Recursion Aug 2015 #26

It is sad, but the OP is always amusing Rex Aug 2015 #41

Probably a "small business owner who listens to both sides". nt Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2015 #64

My God you guys need some new material Recursion Aug 2015 #75

I don't think DU does anything. There are individuals at DU with a number of different perspectives Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2015 #79

So, my calling for a $25 minimum wage is "skewing right"? Recursion Aug 2015 #80

So, what exactly was your advice for the Democratic party again? Man, you make that DU guy sound Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2015 #88

... Rex Aug 2015 #91

Yeah? Well, a decade ago he wasn't such an asshole, when I first met him Recursion Aug 2015 #92

Somewhat to the left! Wow you are so funny! Rex Aug 2015 #95

Medicare is single payer Recursion Aug 2015 #96

You are the one pretending medicare is single payer nobody else in this thread is. Rex Aug 2015 #98

OMFG do you not even know what "single payer" means? Recursion Aug 2015 #100

Again you are the only person in here pretending to know something that is apparent Rex Aug 2015 #103

As I said. He sounds terrible. It's a shame that you're forced to hang out with him. And if "moving Guy Whitey Corngood Aug 2015 #105

This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Aug 2015 #85

He is choosing to swap out his equipment madville Aug 2015 #25

My husband was on dialysis and I didn't find this at all. Cleita Aug 2015 #39

He's doing something wrong, then. Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2015 #29

That's been my experience with it too. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #38

musicians generally don't pay into social security and medicare nashville_brook Aug 2015 #60

Do you mean he didn't file a tax return for $60 years? TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #62

his income wasn't wages. nashville_brook Aug 2015 #63

so maybe he does NOT have medicare then hfojvt Aug 2015 #72

Part A is essentially guaranteed Recursion Aug 2015 #73

You have to pay in for 40 quarters (10 years) TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #81

Mr. Dale refused medicare for whatever reason that we do not know and the article does not say. Rex Aug 2015 #101

Depends Recursion Aug 2015 #71

I have made my living playing music for 30 years redstateblues Aug 2015 #108

... Rex Aug 2015 #40

Go on... Recursion Aug 2015 #42

Yes next you will tell us why we need to get rid of social security. Rex Aug 2015 #44

So, no actual response? Recursion Aug 2015 #46

Why would I expect you to be a serious poster here when you post RWing crap? Rex Aug 2015 #53

took my observation and made an OP out of it hfojvt Aug 2015 #50

Slow week...they couldn't run off Octa so now have to try something different. Rex Aug 2015 #54

I've been saying this for like 5 years now Recursion Aug 2015 #55

I cannot play trumpet any more hfojvt Aug 2015 #68

Where does it say he is on Medicare?? Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2015 #69

He's a US citizen over the age of 65 Recursion Aug 2015 #70

No, you have to sign UP for Medicare -- Hell Hath No Fury Aug 2015 #83

Funny how little the OP knows about a subject they pretend to be an expert on. Rex Aug 2015 #97

If like most musicians he never made enough to qualify for Social Security hobbit709 Aug 2015 #84

If you mean he never reported his income TexasBushwhacker Aug 2015 #107

I'm sure Dick Dale had some really good years redstateblues Aug 2015 #109

Maybe you should do more research on Dick Dale and Medicare ... GeorgeGist Aug 2015 #111

so we should stick with the profit model, cuz it's great!!! Doctor_J Aug 2015 #112