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Rex

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20. I think they would have been at war with the USSR and the US and in very bad shape.

Thu Aug 6, 2015, 03:07 PM

Aug 2015

The USSR was drooling over the idea of controlling Japan, I think after the war they would not have become friends and stayed enemies. I agree, Japan would be ultra nationalists and military fanatics after beating us and probably would have ramped up their military production to extreme levels.

Since we lost (in another universe), I think they would have gone back into China and captured a lot of territory with the USSR keeping a worried eye on Japan as it starts to expand it's area of control.

Would Japan make it down to Australia? Would they take back Midway and wrestle control of Hawaii from us? Interesting What Ifs.

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What if we beat the rest of the Axis powers like we did, but lost to Japan? [View all] Reter Aug 2015 OP

Japan's defeat was inevitable after Germany fell. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #1

My thread is a "what if" they won Reter Aug 2015 #3

you'd have to invent a world that didn't exist. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #7

Vietnam could never win Reter Aug 2015 #11

Are we Vietnamese now? jberryhill Aug 2015 #26

big fan of alternative history, I'll give it a shot. a long shot. lol Javaman Aug 2015 #21

I've seen that exact scenario before geek tragedy Aug 2015 #23

LOL exactly. :) nt Javaman Aug 2015 #25

Screw everything... build up in Indochina jberryhill Aug 2015 #27

Wouldn't Japan have also.. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #30

Sounds good Buzz cook Aug 2015 #42

If the US didn't have "the bomb" it could have just continued the process of firebombing Japan into PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #2

But what if the US lost? Reter Aug 2015 #6

We'd have pixelated p0rn. n/t PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #8

Then we could all get a chance to try Green Tea KitKats now! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #4

+1 nt Javaman Aug 2015 #22

Green tea Kit Kats are pretty good Art_from_Ark Aug 2015 #43

I want some underwear davidpdx Aug 2015 #44

The only way to "lose" to Japan is to be invaded and conquered by them. arcane1 Aug 2015 #5

That's what I mean Reter Aug 2015 #9

I laid it out above, if they couldn't use a ground invasion, they'd literally starve Japan. geek tragedy Aug 2015 #14

No way we could have lost. MicaelS Aug 2015 #10

How exactly would we lose to Japan? I know this is all hypothetical, but where do we start? Rex Aug 2015 #12

I was not talking about them invading the US mainland Reter Aug 2015 #15

Oh okay gotcha that is easier to speculate imo. Rex Aug 2015 #16

If we retreated after 5 or 10 years, they would have had devastating losses Reter Aug 2015 #18

I think they would have been at war with the USSR and the US and in very bad shape. Rex Aug 2015 #20

Anyone's guess but... sarisataka Aug 2015 #13

If China had fallen before Pear Harbor Buzz cook Aug 2015 #17

check out my long shot alternative history at #21. nt Javaman Aug 2015 #24

On August 9, 1945, the Red Army invaded the Japanese-held Manchuria . . . Journeyman Aug 2015 #19

Eventually, we would have given up interests in the Pacific Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #28

Who's "we"? Spider Jerusalem Aug 2015 #29

That movie, Fatherland, was based on a book. Dr Hobbitstein Aug 2015 #31

Japan had lost in fall of '44. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #32

Japan lost at Pearl Harbor. oneshooter Aug 2015 #33

The U.S. was on the defensive for about a year. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #34

I wouldn't say we had inferior planes, we just had different goals with our planes. NutmegYankee Aug 2015 #35

The P-40 was inferior, but they developed effective tactics against the Zeros. HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #36

Thew wildcat was outperformed, but that ruggedness served it well. NutmegYankee Aug 2015 #37

The big advantage it had... HooptieWagon Aug 2015 #38

Agree. nt NutmegYankee Aug 2015 #39

We would burn their cities and mine their harbors. AngryAmish Aug 2015 #40

If Japan had not lost RobertEarl Aug 2015 #41

I'm not a fan of alternative history davidpdx Aug 2015 #45