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bvar22

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77. The fact that 9 others "understood" the "point" of my post...
Sat May 19, 2012, 10:45 AM
May 2012

...IS relevant when ONE is pretending to NOT understand.

You:
"whatever point it is that you are trying to make."

If 9 random people understand,
and ONE claims confusion,
the PROBLEM is either poor comprehension or willful ignorance with the ONE.

I love the Congressional Black Caucus.
They are true Democratic party HEROES fighting in the trenches.
I STILL hurt for that day in 2000 when they gathered in Unity and went to the Senate to protest the stolen election in Florida,
and not a single Democratic Senator would STAND with them or even acknowledge their valid concerns.
Boy, was THAT a low point in the history of the Democratic Party.

There IS a malodorous history of the CBC having to fight their battles on their own over the last 20 years.
Conyers being relegated to a basement room to hold his Impeachment/War Crimes hearing without a single celebrity "Centrist" Democrat offering assistance or even acknowledging the battle he was fighting,
and that is only one instance.
There are others.

How many members of the CBC or the Progressive Caucus were given a position on Obama's cabinet,
or appointed to any position of authority and power on ANY White House committee or organization?

But the CBC are heroes and Democratic Party soldiers.
They WILL bide their time and bite their tongues, a survival skill learned over centuries.
They WILL put on a Public Face of Laughing it Off,
but NO intelligent human being can fail to observe the tone and language used in that Awards meeting.


You claim to offer facts, but you don't.
You offer only conjecture, opinion, and wishful thinking.

You STILL have FAILED to respond to my challenge:

"There are STILL many people upset about this chastising.
IF this type of language had been used to "rally" the Blue Dogs to get with the program on Health care Reform (among many other issues) it would be no big deal,
....but he hasn't.

<snip>
"until YOU can produce a single occasion where the Blue Dogs, or ANY other conservative Democratic caucus or group were chastised with the same tone and language,
ALL your frantic rationalizations, diversions, pretend obtuseness, and Ad Hominems amount to nothing. "


Well?

I stand by my post.






You will know them by their WORKS,
not by their excuses, rationalizations, diversions, Logical Falacies, fantasies, wishful thinking, dodging, smoke screens, and willful ignorance.
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Krugman slams centrists [View all] Marzupialis May 2012 OP
kick Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #1
Krugman naills it, bvar22 May 2012 #2
Indeed, the pattern is CRYSTAL clear -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2012 #6
Van Jones, Shirley Sherrod, exiled. Dont call me Shirley May 2012 #7
Thanks. bvar22 May 2012 #9
To Further Prove Your Point Yavin4 May 2012 #8
I wish I could rec this post 1000 times hifiguy May 2012 #14
+10000 JDPriestly May 2012 #28
Yep...you nailed it, bvar22! tex-wyo-dem May 2012 #37
Add to that the DNC's tepid support for Barrett in Wisconsin to defeat Walker AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #40
yeah, that was the plan from the start Blue_Tires May 2012 #52
And one more .... LiberalLovinLug May 2012 #59
You can take your concerned notice of the President's words to the CBC off your list Number23 May 2012 #65
I will be glad to do that just as soon as you.... bvar22 May 2012 #66
I stand by what I said too Number23 May 2012 #67
I see you FAILED to respond to my challenge, bvar22 May 2012 #68
Your "challenge" has nothing to do with anything that I've said Number23 May 2012 #70
EXACTLY!!!! bvar22 May 2012 #71
lol The only "surrender" I'll ever make to you is to surrender to the knowledge Number23 May 2012 #72
Pretending to Laughing Off failure... bvar22 May 2012 #73
And the desire to continue to brazenly tout something Number23 May 2012 #74
More Bluster and Smoke. bvar22 May 2012 #75
LOL! When you have to resort to "nine other people agreed with me" Number23 May 2012 #76
The fact that 9 others "understood" the "point" of my post... bvar22 May 2012 #77
Blah blah blah Number23 May 2012 #78
Anything by Krugman, I upvote first and read later. 2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #3
K&R 99Forever May 2012 #4
K&R Hell Hath No Fury May 2012 #5
The BIG Problem I have with "Sensible Centrists"... bvar22 May 2012 #10
Yup, too often centrists are like "independents" or "libertarians" Salviati May 2012 #20
Too often independents seem more liberal than centrists. nt Hatchling May 2012 #46
my sentiments exactly SemperEadem May 2012 #60
slammin' DURec. KG May 2012 #11
Oops: ProSense May 2012 #12
If true progressive ideals were adopted and fought for, we'd ALL be democrats. mother earth May 2012 #13
Did anyone not know that the president was "black"? Not sure why it was necessary to use that... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #17
Apologies, it's just that after two steals we were allowed the real win, mother earth May 2012 #27
"I'm so tired of centrism that keeps us stagnating and in endless status quo." Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #34
Look, not trying to do 2008 over, although JE was on message (unzipped tho he was, unknown to mother earth May 2012 #57
"embrace the real base."? I am the base. 4th generation Democrat here. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #58
Agreed. No disrespect towards that issue, but why are all other issues now invisible? AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #41
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT May 2012 #15
I agree AE was a joke, but let's be real PK, there are extremes on both sides. Not sure if Paul.... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #16
Great, so if there are extremes on both sides go ahead and list them... JAbuchan08 May 2012 #18
Ever visited wsws? I mean, really. Hell, I think Greens can be extreme, but then I'm a Democrat. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #19
But they are in parties that call themselves to the left of the Democrats muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #22
Come on muriel, you & I both know that we all get lumped in as "the left". I guess my point is..... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #24
I think you're completely wrong muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #30
Okay, I never said they were "influential", I merely observed that they do exist. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #33
He says the Democrats are centrist; he critcises the AE "centrists" with quotes muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #47
The Tea Party is not an actual party thus, unless they run for a non-partisan office, they MUST run Luminous Animal May 2012 #31
But the "centrists" are not reacting to wsws, they're reacting to Obama JAbuchan08 May 2012 #64
False equivalency. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #26
K&R me b zola May 2012 #21
This is just my opinion, but on a political spectrum Jamaal510 May 2012 #23
I have a particular loathing for dem centrists. xchrom May 2012 #25
Exactly! tex-wyo-dem May 2012 #39
Bail-outs. Failed wars. True. But they are not finished yet. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #42
Amen to that. nt raouldukelives May 2012 #53
K&R. Democratic centrists apparently feel the recall fight bullwinkle428 May 2012 #29
He forgot to mention shilling for online voting? n/t eridani May 2012 #32
The powers that be already have the upper hand. Bonobo May 2012 #35
If only Krugman had the intellectual horsepower of Geithner or Summers MannyGoldstein May 2012 #36
Hello Third Way Manny, I am DLC Dragonfli! (new and improved for the ultimate centrism) Dragonfli May 2012 #38
OK. You've convinced me. I'm in. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #43
Why no!!! Each year we get to move further right, as far as the envelop will bear Dragonfli May 2012 #44
So we're safe for 10 years before we have to adopt all the current Republican policies? Whew. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #45
Why is Paul Krugman Misrepresenting the Demise of a Wall Street Funded, Right Wing... ProSense May 2012 #48
Centrists are the most useless people in politics... nt Comrade_McKenzie May 2012 #49
Given: The center is SKEWED to the Right. This makes it PRIME political real-estate. patrice May 2012 #50
Americans Elect was a terrible idea Alcibiades May 2012 #51
Any "third" or "center" anything that doesn't admit your basic point: "need to call for fundamental patrice May 2012 #55
Wow, there's a ton of trolls here. xtraxritical May 2012 #54
Please retract your statement, Centrists are not trolls, they are the heart of our great party! /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #56
Thank you! for how you framed this critique. patrice May 2012 #61
. Dragonfli May 2012 #62
NAILED IT! As usual... on point May 2012 #63
Where is "The Center"? bvar22 May 2012 #69
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