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Eleanors38

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10. I took my data from the Nat'l Safety Council, not a "leading gun control group."

Reply to pnwmom (Reply #9)

Fri Aug 7, 2015, 01:47 PM

Aug 2015

Some controllers have a "liberal" notion of what constitutes a child.

Please note that the childhood death rate has been falling Faster than any number of other accidental death causes, like drowning, electrocution, poisoning, falls, fires, etc., which take far more lives. Yet, as we both know, the number of guns in civilian hands has been going up. It seems that gun-owners Are in fact taking responsible steps in securing guns by means of trigger or action locks, or the use of lock boxes and safes. Tens of millions of these devices are in use. Now, if we could better secure the Drano below our sinks...

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Shot and killed by young minors - who is the criminal? [View all] lostnfound Aug 2015 OP

Well, if you charged every gun owner whose weapon ended up in the wrong hands and was used to Doctor_J Aug 2015 #1

Making it a crime to let your gun be accessible to an under-13 year old seems reasonable. lostnfound Aug 2015 #2

SO, putting a child's life at risk didn't make this guy responsible, but a new law would???? Doctor_J Aug 2015 #5

I don't understand your point. lostnfound Aug 2015 #6

Here in NC that is the law Lee-Lee Aug 2015 #12

I would love to see irresponsible gun owners jailed Orrex Aug 2015 #3

27 states have child access laws based on negligent storage; not Michigan where this happened lostnfound Aug 2015 #4

Standard prohibitionist outlook based on overturning a Constitutional Amendment. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #8

This topic has been widely discussed in the two Gunz Groups. Why don't Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #7

Interesting that they report gun deaths among minors by leaving out the older teens most likely pnwmom Aug 2015 #9

I took my data from the Nat'l Safety Council, not a "leading gun control group." Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #10

Funny, I didn't see any link. And a minor is under 18. There isn't a "liberal" or "conservative" pnwmom Aug 2015 #11

Actually, that is your definition of minor... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #13

No, under 18 is the LEGAL definition of minor. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #14

The data from various sources uses various ages. No law against that... Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #15

It's deceptive to say you are reporting the number of "minors" when you are really talking pnwmom Aug 2015 #16

Some use 12, some 14, some 15, some 18. "Better" numbers, higher you go. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #18

Right. The higher you go, the more cases there would be. So by only reporting pnwmom Aug 2015 #21

The lower #s were used by known gun-control entities. Eleanors38 Aug 2015 #23

Seems most reasonable to divide statistics Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #19

Since the subject was ACCIDENTAL gun deaths I don't see why it makes sense pnwmom Aug 2015 #20

I missed that detail! Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #22

Easy answer, the parents madokie Aug 2015 #17