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84. Why would it be surprising that older whites would be less likely to vote for a black man than

Reply to Major Hogwash (Reply #32)

Sat May 19, 2012, 01:24 PM

May 2012

younger whites or black people, given the facts of history?

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"In a white supremacist society…" [View all] MrScorpio May 2012 OP

They are going to use mactime May 2012 #1

Ignorant black power ramblings? Solomon May 2012 #2

How is this ignorant or black power ramblings? nt MrScorpio May 2012 #3

Do you disagree with the OP's assesment? arcane1 May 2012 #4

What? MineralMan May 2012 #5

There's ignorance in this thread, but not in the OP. marmar May 2012 #6

Three jurors thought your comment was OK. Robb May 2012 #49

Yikes. BlueIris May 2012 #50

Welcome to my Ignore list, troll - n/t coalition_unwilling May 2012 #63

Pizza is delivered. Odin2005 May 2012 #79

Whiskey Tango Fuck you? Taverner May 2012 #101

A "white supremacist society" would *never* elect a black man to the highest office in the land. Nye Bevan May 2012 #7

The election of a black president doesn't disprove that we live in a "white supremacist society"… MrScorpio May 2012 #9

A "white supremacist society" implies to me that most of the population is racist Major Nikon May 2012 #10

What's being discussed here is the standardization of an image, the white image in America MrScorpio May 2012 #15

I'm not sure whose standard you're referring Major Nikon May 2012 #23

The birthers are concentrated in the South. Odin2005 May 2012 #81

Can you think of anything anti-Democratic Party that isn't concentrated in the South? Major Nikon May 2012 #99

Why not just say "racist society"? Why use a phrase, "white supremacist," that used to refer HiPointDem May 2012 #82

no it implies that whites get more of a benefit of the doubt than non whites arely staircase May 2012 #25

Sorry, but I can't get there from here Major Nikon May 2012 #31

i dont think the author is saying that marginal arely staircase May 2012 #34

That's exactly the implication Major Nikon May 2012 #56

overt racists are social outcasts in america. most racism is unintentional arely staircase May 2012 #73

Most (white) Americans don't get edgy when a few young black males walk down their street? alcibiades_mystery May 2012 #52

Most people are SUBCONSCIOUSLY racist. Odin2005 May 2012 #80

Pretty hard to make a society that way, no? Major Nikon May 2012 #100

Right. Bill Clinton got a total pass on everything he did. Nye Bevan May 2012 #12

How much was Clinton's citizenship or religion questioned? MrScorpio May 2012 #16

Has Obama been accused of murdering close to 50 people? Nye Bevan May 2012 #18

Yes, but again, how does any of that challenge Clinton's very identity as an American? MrScorpio May 2012 #19

Saying that we are not a "white supremacist society" Nye Bevan May 2012 #20

But race has always been an issue in this country, has it not? MrScorpio May 2012 #22

No. I've read there are more black men in prison right now EFerrari May 2012 #29

I don't think that's true RZM May 2012 #38

More Black Men in Prison Today Than Enslaved in 1850 EFerrari May 2012 #39

Doesn't match with the data RZM May 2012 #40

If I'm reading Alexander right, she's including black men under EFerrari May 2012 #42

There are more black males aged 18-24 incarcerated, on probation or parole than coalition_unwilling May 2012 #65

I know and still want to read Alexander's book The New Jim Crow EFerrari May 2012 #68

I'm sick of a society where 1% own 40% of the wealth and no one coalition_unwilling May 2012 #71

Occupy is a long awaited source of hope, for sure. EFerrari May 2012 #77

of course race is still an issue in america, a big issue.that doesn't mean america is still a "white HiPointDem May 2012 #83

Clinton went through far worse than Obama. Beacool May 2012 #36

But they did not question whether he was born in the US treestar May 2012 #30

After 5 years of fishing and finding nothing. Beacool May 2012 #46

Think about Obama versus W and Rmoney XemaSab May 2012 #28

Old white people didn't vote for Obama. Major Hogwash May 2012 #32

And 9 out of 10 AA voted for Obama. Beacool May 2012 #47

Over 75% of all Hispanics voted for Obama in 2008. Major Hogwash May 2012 #54

I wish that people would leave religion out of it. Beacool May 2012 #66

I wish the Mormon Church would keep their money out of our politics. nt EFerrari May 2012 #69

they spent boatloads of money to destroy marriage equality in california arely staircase May 2012 #72

Why would it be surprising that older whites would be less likely to vote for a black man than HiPointDem May 2012 #84

How does a "white supremacist society" elect a black president? Major Nikon May 2012 #8

you're right BOG PERSON May 2012 #11

It was a secret plot by the white supremacists. Elect a black man president, so that we can pretend Nye Bevan May 2012 #13

You didn't answer the question Major Nikon May 2012 #14

that's because it was a rhetorical question you were posing BOG PERSON May 2012 #17

Only if you think the answer is, "It doesn't" Major Nikon May 2012 #21

only if you're being wilfully obtuse BOG PERSON May 2012 #27

If you don't want to answer the question, just say so Major Nikon May 2012 #57

Are you kidding? The same way it elects every other president. EFerrari May 2012 #26

"White supremacist problem" != White supremacist society Major Nikon May 2012 #55

Do you think we could have a national program for the mass incarceration of black men EFerrari May 2012 #64

Except the OP didn't say "white supremacist problem". It said "white supremacist society". HiPointDem May 2012 #85

I'm sorry, HiPointDem, but imo, that's a distinction without much of a difference. n/t EFerrari May 2012 #86

I think it's quite a big difference if one's intent is to get white people to hear the message. HiPointDem May 2012 #87

Well, forgive me if I'm horribly wrong but EFerrari May 2012 #88

No disagreement that more people should be aware of the injustice in the "justice" system and be HiPointDem May 2012 #90

Are you old enough to remember this anti-drug ad? EFerrari May 2012 #91

I don't remember the ad, but I came of age in the civil rights era. If you think a lot of white HiPointDem May 2012 #93

Your point is taken. EFerrari May 2012 #94

sure. though imo too much preaching to the converted has its own dangers. HiPointDem May 2012 #95

Most people don't identify themselves as racists bhikkhu May 2012 #53

Hard to have a "white supremecist society" if nobody identifies as a racist, no? Major Nikon May 2012 #58

True, the term doesn't quite apply bhikkhu May 2012 #75

The point is the black president has to be perfect and angelic treestar May 2012 #59

K&R Number23 May 2012 #24

Good post, man. =) AverageJoe90 May 2012 #33

In a white supremacist society Obama not only wouldn't be president, Beacool May 2012 #35

+100 Skip Intro May 2012 #41

You are collapsing a number of things here but mainly, you're confusing objecting to racism EFerrari May 2012 #44

There is racism in this society, but it's not a white supremacist society as a whole. Beacool May 2012 #45

Why are you complaining about derogatory statements about white people EFerrari May 2012 #70

Because she is still pissed... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #74

Well, I can understand that. I'm still pissed they tanked Howard Dean. EFerrari May 2012 #76

Yeah, me too... awoke_in_2003 May 2012 #78

Stuff it. Beacool May 2012 #98

And what the hell does that have to do with this post? Beacool May 2012 #97

All white people are racist? The premise of the question is racist in and of itself uponit7771 May 2012 #61

I'm a white male and I get it fascisthunter May 2012 #37

Silly at best... Cave_Johnson May 2012 #43

Not surprised at all. Kingofalldems May 2012 #51

Okay. So - how did Obama get elected in a white supremacist society? Zax2me May 2012 #48

You don't have to hate to be racist uponit7771 May 2012 #62

In a white supremacist society... krispos42 May 2012 #60

I didn't realize we did blood tests to determine race. Actually I didn't even realize there was a HiPointDem May 2012 #89

I think the fundamental good point is being lost with excess hyperbole. lumberjack_jeff May 2012 #67

that's true arely staircase May 2012 #92

Thought provoking. Thanks for posting. nt ZombieHorde May 2012 #96