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bettyellen

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284. Not mocking to say she (and you) are engaged in magical thinking that MP shld have kept a dangerous

Sat Aug 8, 2015, 11:33 AM

Aug 2015

dog. You are being utterly unrealistic with this cage nonsense.
TTW was not fully forthcoming about Yoshi being a danger- and she has to own that bit of miscommunication herself, and get it through her head that she cannot command people to do her bidding merely because they offered to help. Other people have very reasonable boundaries- and their own lives and safety- as well as Yoshi's -will be part of how they determine those boundaries.

To expect them to house the dogs no matter what aggression occurred is dead wrong. TTW is not in a position to "enforce terms" and that expectation is so wrong and so unrealistic that you are doing her no service here promoting that expectation. She is bound to continue to be angry and lash out at the world at people who have truly done the best they could for her. You are truly not helping here.

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What can we DU now to help TTW and Yoshi ? [View all] J_J_ Aug 2015 OP

Post in the group of the state where they live shenmue Aug 2015 #1

Last I saw she was in a small room in between temp work and haikugal Aug 2015 #2

Yes, she apparently took Yoshi back. See... PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #6

Thank You....sad but I don't think there is a lot we can do. haikugal Aug 2015 #9

Yes, according to msanthrope, cwydro Aug 2015 #8

I read one comment yesterday with that accusation. haikugal Aug 2015 #10

TTW took the dog back into her possession and control. Mariana Aug 2015 #12

I am not questioning that. Just knowing what we've been told these many months haikugal Aug 2015 #14

This is a case Aerows Aug 2015 #150

Everyone wonders why TTW isn't acting rationally. Well, she can't. underahedgerow Aug 2015 #224

Agree. Katashi_itto Aug 2015 #236

There is a lot of truth to this post. mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #239

I think she's going to meet up with the system gwheezie Aug 2015 #243

There has to be a solution somewhere between... meaculpa2011 Aug 2015 #244

My heart goes out to you and your son. mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #254

My wife and I are both 64... meaculpa2011 Aug 2015 #266

Sounds like a plan... mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #274

Your son seems like an exceptional... meaculpa2011 Aug 2015 #278

He is...I guess the extra dose of motivation mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #282

sorry to interrupt your post, but i have a question. without my contacts i am 20/400. does that mean dionysus Aug 2015 #411

This message was self-deleted by its author mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #275

Hey there..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #248

Not to be glib gwheezie Aug 2015 #252

Hey back... mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #261

Good post, thank you. I agree, everyone did what they could and we can't do more. haikugal Aug 2015 #334

This message was self-deleted by its author underahedgerow Aug 2015 #224

"just because something is legal, doesn't make it right." NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #349

I know you are talking about me: and you are deliberately misrepresentin me just like you daredtowork Aug 2015 #124

"if she's raving about a conspiracy to take Yoshi away from her: well that's true." Demit Aug 2015 #135

I was being facetious =.= daredtowork Aug 2015 #138

You can't claim you were misrepresented in one breath, Demit Aug 2015 #157

Ok so what's your point? daredtowork Aug 2015 #159

It's not an attack to show you your own words. Demit Aug 2015 #162

Again, what is your point? daredtowork Aug 2015 #175

I've made my point. You can't say you didn't accuse DUers of a conspiracy anymore. Demit Aug 2015 #190

I'm not accusing DUers of conspiracy daredtowork Aug 2015 #198

Definition of facetious------ 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #226

I think you are mistaking who is attacking who daredtowork Aug 2015 #230

Take a break, dear one. I suggested you chose the wrong 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #234

I am glad you posted this because you spoke my thoughts Tipperary Aug 2015 #235

Patience running far below zero. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #238

There is no need to forgive because you spoke the Tipperary Aug 2015 #240

I suspect the poster simply meant "sarcastic" magical thyme Aug 2015 #242

I also had to provide the definition of the word conspire daredtowork Aug 2015 #288

You just won't quit, will you? Take a xanax, or 2. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #293

Not everyone daredtowork Aug 2015 #297

Why don't you go back & fetch the proof of your allegations? Demit Aug 2015 #299

I'm not at your beck and call. Wait all day. nt daredtowork Aug 2015 #302

That's ok, I figured you'd rather continue making things up. Demit Aug 2015 #308

perhaps the best help you could offer, is be a contact if the worse happens and the dog is Sunlei Aug 2015 #250

I wish I could daredtowork Aug 2015 #289

I understand what you mean. A lot of times the actual sign over the animals 'ownership' is the Sunlei Aug 2015 #292

Hi - wanna say that I understood your "conspiracy" post in the other Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #352

I agree, and I know they need help darkangel218 Aug 2015 #3

I may sound harsh but... haikugal Aug 2015 #7

If we could help her get a safe housing, for both her and Yoshi, darkangel218 Aug 2015 #11

So do I, however I don't think it's going to happen with them together. haikugal Aug 2015 #13

Yoshi can still be trained - there are obedience classes available darkangel218 Aug 2015 #15

I had to leave my Rottie when I moved into an apt..they don't take big dogs. haikugal Aug 2015 #17

I guarantee you that there are plenty of places who will allow big dogs darkangel218 Aug 2015 #18

i Don't think the issue is just the size of the dog JI7 Aug 2015 #22

The issue is she doesn't have the money and darkangel218 Aug 2015 #23

Nobody is going to rent to her with no job. LeftyMom Aug 2015 #218

How about posting some of those places so I can see how wrong I am. haikugal Aug 2015 #24

Are you trying to tell me that no one in Philadelphia ( and suburbs ) will rent a place darkangel218 Aug 2015 #25

Yes... haikugal Aug 2015 #27

So you think that's the reason TTW doesn't have a place of her own yet? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #33

You aren't making a lot of sense here darkangle218.. haikugal Aug 2015 #35

You are the one not making sense. How can you say that there are no places darkangel218 Aug 2015 #76

A landlord can be liable Aerows Aug 2015 #155

First, it's almost impossible to get a place without showing proof of income. Demit Aug 2015 #74

You can get a month to month + deposit place. Leases are not always necessary. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #77

Not with the eviction on her record. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #81

Not all places check records. Especially in the suburbs, maybe even country side darkangel218 Aug 2015 #87

Then do it. Find a place for her to stay, get the numbers and report back asking the community PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #90

I leave that to those who have time. I will contribute financially darkangel218 Aug 2015 #94

But you have time to post here? You could be looking right now. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #95

Without money?? What good would it do? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #98

Get the numbers and report back asking the community for the money. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #100

If there is will, there is a way. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #103

Then do it. It's your bright idea. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #104

I said I can contribute money, not time. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #107

There apparently really isn't all that much will... Agschmid Aug 2015 #211

ask the community for MORE money Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #257

It looks like she has close to 2500 dollars already yeoman6987 Aug 2015 #161

That is over 4 months, and much of that was already dispensed and used some time ago. nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #259

That's just an excuse. JTFrog Aug 2015 #216

Indeed.....shitholes, drug houses, and illegal landlords don't do checks. msanthrope Aug 2015 #93

In fairness where I live now, which is none of those things, didn't do a check dsc Aug 2015 #182

Well, to be fair.....you have no idea what was done. msanthrope Aug 2015 #249

when I was on the streets, its fairly easy to find lodging when you work for room and board. Sunlei Aug 2015 #253

They are available. I wonder if that would suit TTW. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #272

take a look in current craigs list for the city she is in/near.rooms to rent are listed there. Sunlei Aug 2015 #273

I've known of jobs that allowed someone to live on the premises, xmas74 Aug 2015 #355

I actually thought it was legit for anyone to deny based on lack of employment dsc Aug 2015 #276

It is. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #294

When was the last time you rented a place Lilith Rising Aug 2015 #279

You're right, of course pipi_k Aug 2015 #331

Do find this landlord who will rent month-to-month, in a neighborhood that suits TTW. LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #82

No you can't. Demit Aug 2015 #102

craigs list always has very cheap rooms for rent and many will take a large dog. Sunlei Aug 2015 #251

Dog or no dog. No one is going to rent to a person with no income and an eviction on her record. I Tipperary Aug 2015 #287

you're so right about rentals. even around the houston area most rentals are no pets, some have Sunlei Aug 2015 #247

TTW already has a Go Fund Me page mentalsolstice Aug 2015 #19

No, a Go Fund me for her, but managed by DU. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #21

DU would have to pay her rent for the years to come. Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #38

I agree. She's desparately in need of mental health help and until she accepts that beaglelover Aug 2015 #39

I seem to remember daredtowork Aug 2015 #209

I agree. I feel bad everytime I see a post from her. bravenak Aug 2015 #49

So now you want to raise funds for housing AND obedience classes? KittyWampus Aug 2015 #42

^ Enabling. TBF Aug 2015 #48

You call putting a roof over a homeless person head "enabling''?? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #78

Exactly. ....so why take Yoshi there? nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #79

I have nothing further to say to someone who thinks fiding safe housing for a homeless person darkangel218 Aug 2015 #83

You have me confused with another poster on this thread......that sorta ruins the exit. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #99

I don't care for "exits". Not surprised you do though. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #101

I think everyone knows your stance on "exits" tammywammy Aug 2015 #106

What is your solution for TTW?? Hm?? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #109

I think she needs serious help and intervention tammywammy Aug 2015 #114

well that is about the same as your demand Kali Aug 2015 #122

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #125

..you should see her on DI... different handle.. same drama... dionysus Aug 2015 #421

! Kali Aug 2015 #133

Msanthrope has learned the hard way that an unstable person is insisting on keeping pnwmom Aug 2015 #169

She promised she would keep Yoshi, yet they surrendered him to a kill shelter 2 days later!! darkangel218 Aug 2015 #171

They surrendered her to a shelter where the dog would only have to stay for 3 days, pnwmom Aug 2015 #173

That wasn't definite. Don't make things up, that the rescue would have certainly picked him up! darkangel218 Aug 2015 #177

go to bed, now Kali Aug 2015 #180

They told TTW exactly where to go to get her dog. So what if she had to pick him up pnwmom Aug 2015 #227

Ok... This is getting silly. Adrahil Aug 2015 #255

Yup. Agschmid Aug 2015 #212

Darkangel, have you met this woman? TBF Aug 2015 #262

the shelter he was at has professional dog training magical thyme Aug 2015 #270

Agreed ellie Aug 2015 #55

I usually give to these things. roody Aug 2015 #28

There already is a GFM, but it hasn't collected much in 4 months--and most of that has been tblue37 Aug 2015 #256

there's been over $1,000 collected in the last 6 days magical thyme Aug 2015 #268

Yes. When I posted the thread a couple of days ago about Yoshi's plight in that doggie daycare, tblue37 Aug 2015 #280

I'm aware of the history of TTW and Yoshi magical thyme Aug 2015 #281

I absolutely agree. I wish I knew how to make that happen! nt tblue37 Aug 2015 #285

So she maybe able to overpay her way into temp housing that she cannot afford. bettyellen Aug 2015 #286

I began reading some of the earlier threads through links that another posted here. I did notice Tipperary Aug 2015 #290

She can't take 'responsibility' for her actions. She's mentally ill. Most likely a schizophrenic underahedgerow Aug 2015 #329

which is why many have concluded that throwing money at the problem will not solve it.... bettyellen Aug 2015 #337

I see two few choices seveneyes Aug 2015 #4

I'm in if someone can take it up. Please let me know. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #26

people have tried to help JI7 Aug 2015 #5

ttw took away the help that was given to yoshi JI7 Aug 2015 #16

Yoshi wouldn't have stood a chance to be adopted. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #20

Rescue groups are expert at retraining dogs. roody Aug 2015 #29

It was a good chance for Yoshi. nt haikugal Aug 2015 #30

Things do not look good at at for Yoshi now avebury Aug 2015 #32

I agree, it is sad and all it takes is one bite and he's a dangerous dog with an irresponsible owner haikugal Aug 2015 #34

Yep, by taking the dog back TTW has dramatically shortened the poor thing's life. beaglelover Aug 2015 #36

That's not true....and look at what you are saying..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #50

Up thread she claims the dog could be trained Texasgal Aug 2015 #56

This floors me..... the logic of it.....TTW is now msanthrope Aug 2015 #60

big mistake Kali Aug 2015 #65

You said it yourself that your ex couldn't keep the dog not even 1 week darkangel218 Aug 2015 #72

I think the Akita breed experts, who thought he was adoptable, should have been listened to. nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #84

Her ex couldn't keep Yoshi for reasons not relating to him being unadoptable nadine_mn Aug 2015 #141

Yah whatever, I'm trying to come up with ways to help someone in need. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #71

You are talking to the person who has fed Yoshi for the last few months. My suggestion msanthrope Aug 2015 #89

I support both the dog and TTW. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #70

Where were you six months ago? Texasgal Aug 2015 #86

How do you know I haven't donated to TTW?? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #91

I don't believe you. Texasgal Aug 2015 #96

Go check other people in Pets group who I have donated to and signed with my name instead of annonum darkangel218 Aug 2015 #105

So check with other people you've made donations to you prove you donated to someone else? tammywammy Aug 2015 #108

I donate to people /causes I care for. And I don't have to make darkangel218 Aug 2015 #110

I have no "vitriol" for TTW. tammywammy Aug 2015 #119

You cannot be believed. Texasgal Aug 2015 #123

I could care less if someone like you "believes" me. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #127

Ummm.. okay. Texasgal Aug 2015 #130

LOL! Texasgal Aug 2015 #113

fyi tritsofme Aug 2015 #153

the other one was a bad hide Kali Aug 2015 #158

We might as well argue that she has a right to carry around a loaded gun. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #166

Not if he's never given time to calm and adjust... Adrahil Aug 2015 #52

He was going to be taken in by an Akita rescue. tammywammy Aug 2015 #61

I've seen rescues rehab drug house dogs. Placed in suburban homes after rehab( of course Person 2713 Aug 2015 #136

I understand why TTW views Yoshi as family but she avebury Aug 2015 #31

Or we can assume gwheezie Aug 2015 #37

I am thinking more and more that this is a mental health issue Marrah_G Aug 2015 #40

I think this is the case. haikugal Aug 2015 #41

I've had my own struggles Marrah_G Aug 2015 #44

I agree and if the animal is her anchor I understand, however....*sigh* haikugal Aug 2015 #46

It's hard, but as it is, she is not willing to take the steps that MUST be taken. Adrahil Aug 2015 #53

I'm not sure there is anything we can do, beyond trying to help some financially Marrah_G Aug 2015 #54

I sent her money before. I'd be willing help more, IF... Adrahil Aug 2015 #64

I've believed this several threads back. gwheezie Aug 2015 #43

I do agree Marrah_G Aug 2015 #45

I think people have several tipping points gwheezie Aug 2015 #57

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #164

When Moose put up the thread on Sunday in the GFM acct it said $1300+ had been collected. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #223

The fact that people continue to give money to this person alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #415

I agree. What 840high Aug 2015 #152

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #165

There is a point where you are no longer helping, but are enabling. KittyWampus Aug 2015 #47

This is very true. haikugal Aug 2015 #62

Exactly. You said it more tactfully than I'm able to. n/t Lil Missy Aug 2015 #186

I wish that I could offer a place for her and Yoshi to live together IVoteDFL Aug 2015 #51

It reminds me that we are all just bricks in the same wall ... seveneyes Aug 2015 #58

She needs more than money at this point gwheezie Aug 2015 #59

I agree...at this point I think money would enable rather than help. haikugal Aug 2015 #63

I once co-signed a loan for a fellow (1963) 1939 Aug 2015 #66

I bought a guy some steel toed boots. missingthebigdog Aug 2015 #156

Oy vey! Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #67

More money is the answer alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #68

The grail of money can lead in many directions seveneyes Aug 2015 #69

Even assuming that you could, doesn't that just put her back where she was in February? Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #73

Thanks for this, you just put word to all my thoughts regarding this situation. haikugal Aug 2015 #88

This encapsulates everything......thank you.....nt msanthrope Aug 2015 #117

very good post Kali Aug 2015 #128

Good explanation. betsuni Aug 2015 #137

Thank for this nadine_mn Aug 2015 #143

Yeah, in some ways Akitas are very like German Shepherds. Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #170

After your #73 post I went looking for everything I could find on Akitas. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #220

Probably the smartest post yet. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #207

Exactly. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #403

I hope someone(s) can take up my suggestion to set up a Go Fund Me for TTW darkangel218 Aug 2015 #75

Please feel free to put your credit on the line for her. REP Aug 2015 #85

So melman Aug 2015 #92

"Not the best DU can do, but don't I don't want to invest in the time to do anything" tammywammy Aug 2015 #97

Right? Texasgal Aug 2015 #112

If you stop posting online for half a day Boudica the Lyoness Aug 2015 #115

Dear darkangel, just IMHO, you need to take a time out. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #214

Someone did that long ago. It can still be used, but it won't solve her problems. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #229

Why don't you set up the GoFundMe?... SidDithers Aug 2015 #283

I think the best thing that DUers can do is back off. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #80

Your suggestion is spot on. janlyn Aug 2015 #120

This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Aug 2015 #277

Years ago there was a concerted and unsuccesful effort to help a DUer named "bobbolink." Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #316

Find someone who lives nearby daredtowork Aug 2015 #111

This has been done already! Texasgal Aug 2015 #116

I was HERE in February or was it April? daredtowork Aug 2015 #118

Well, if you were helping in the background Texasgal Aug 2015 #121

I also posted in the threads daredtowork Aug 2015 #129

Um..... You said exactly that. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #132

I was being facetious! >.< daredtowork Aug 2015 #139

You said: PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #140

+1 n/t tammywammy Aug 2015 #142

Look at the facts daredtowork Aug 2015 #144

My point was: you did, in fact, say there was a conspiracy to take Yoshi. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #145

That was because THEY were using the word conspiracy. daredtowork Aug 2015 #149

+1 darkangel218 Aug 2015 #146

You're skipping over the most important parts. pnwmom Aug 2015 #163

How about use a crate/cage???? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #168

The "goofy lab owner" got in over his head in an effort to be kind pnwmom Aug 2015 #183

Keep a large AKITA cooped up in a crate 24/7 until TTW... WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #204

I'm not skipping what the Ex did daredtowork Aug 2015 #179

I think everyone is just sad about this whole situation, daredtowork. pnwmom Aug 2015 #181

I had one thought daredtowork Aug 2015 #185

Someone here already offered to take her to their country home out of state. pnwmom Aug 2015 #188

In North Carolina daredtowork Aug 2015 #196

But the bottom line is that she is a stressed-out, unbalanced person pnwmom Aug 2015 #201

She probably was trying to get out of her "slumlord" place daredtowork Aug 2015 #208

The invitation was for Charleston, SC. cwydro Aug 2015 #298

I couldn't remember where it was daredtowork Aug 2015 #301

I can't speak for that poster, cwydro Aug 2015 #303

My worry would be daredtowork Aug 2015 #306

Even the places that are rural aren't that far from larger towns and cities. ladyVet Aug 2015 #413

Very true. cwydro Aug 2015 #419

SheilaT (and please spell my name correctly) SheilaT Aug 2015 #366

I could swear you said something along the lines of daredtowork Aug 2015 #369

I never said anything like that, least of all in connection SheilaT Aug 2015 #370

I don't think TTW is averse to those jobs daredtowork Aug 2015 #371

I certainly don't recall any reference to a job at a pharmacy, SheilaT Aug 2015 #372

Medication won't help with the employment problem daredtowork Aug 2015 #373

I don't recall the paralegal training, but I'll admit I SheilaT Aug 2015 #374

It might depend on where you live daredtowork Aug 2015 #375

TTW is in the Philadelphia area. SheilaT Aug 2015 #376

I am one of the people advocating case management daredtowork Aug 2015 #392

If I lived in the U.S. I'd love to volunteer in the kitchen. betsuni Aug 2015 #377

From 10+ years ago. Ms. Toad Aug 2015 #394

Great find! daredtowork Aug 2015 #395

and again, definition of being facetious......... 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #228

Since you cut and paste, I will repeat you are mistaken about who is attacking who daredtowork Aug 2015 #232

This life coach should offer no advice that doesn't agree with TTW, then? LiberalAndProud Aug 2015 #126

I'm not sure where you are getting that daredtowork Aug 2015 #134

Yes, Yoshi is a family member - which is why so many are suggesting nadine_mn Aug 2015 #148

Well what sucks now daredtowork Aug 2015 #151

"While everyone is mocking how TTW responded..." WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #210

"conspiratorial thinking?" "ridiculous" "paranoid"? daredtowork Aug 2015 #213

"EVERYONE." (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Aug 2015 #217

Not mocking to say she (and you) are engaged in magical thinking that MP shld have kept a dangerous bettyellen Aug 2015 #284

I think you might be answering the wrong person daredtowork Aug 2015 #291

Life coaches, dog trainers, dog walkers, a team of attorneys? Facility Inspector Aug 2015 #258

I know, right? It's beyond ridiculous. I've pretty much stayed out of the TTW Nay Aug 2015 #339

It's time for DU to move on. Lil Missy Aug 2015 #131

Agree 100% beaglelover Aug 2015 #154

yep, msanthrope et al did all they could steve2470 Aug 2015 #222

Could somebody open a window in here??? XRubicon Aug 2015 #147

Nothing, probably. The very responsible, caring DU person who tried to help her is now being attacked by her. pnwmom Aug 2015 #160

They could have put Yoshi in a crate darkangel218 Aug 2015 #167

The doggie daycare that TTW took her to did just that, and he was suffering in that crate. pnwmom Aug 2015 #172

And you think the shelter offered better?? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #174

The shelter was just a necessary step to the Akita rescue. Yoshi was in no danger pnwmom Aug 2015 #176

Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #178

The Rescue thought he had good potential and was willing to work with him. pnwmom Aug 2015 #184

BS, there was a danger to the daughter and other kids and pets . that's what professionals JI7 Aug 2015 #187

Keep him in a cage!! darkangel218 Aug 2015 #189

didn't you deceive with the stuff about being able to get an apartment that will accept her and the JI7 Aug 2015 #191

Deceive???NO! I said I didn't have the time to invest into coordinating that darkangel218 Aug 2015 #193

it doesn't take much longer than posting on DU JI7 Aug 2015 #194

It does, I'm not here on regular basis. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #197

! Kali Aug 2015 #199

just the time you are taking today for this should be enough JI7 Aug 2015 #200

It's not enough, if you manage an account. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #202

I thought you finished nursing school in 18 months? CreekDog Aug 2015 #326

How would he get sufficient exercise in the cage? The professional dog walker pnwmom Aug 2015 #192

How would he get excercise in the shelter cage????????? darkangel218 Aug 2015 #195

You're the one advocating for a cage. So why are you suggesting the ex should have bought a cage pnwmom Aug 2015 #203

Yoshi would be better off with TTW then killed by euthanasia. darkangel218 Aug 2015 #205

He wasn't at risk in the shelter. TTW knew where to pick him up, and she did. pnwmom Aug 2015 #231

I hope she has the sense to put a muzzle on him when they're out and about. MoonRiver Aug 2015 #300

That is a very good suggestion. haikugal Aug 2015 #338

this is so fucking bizarre JI7 Aug 2015 #206

Bizarre is the best way to describe that "logic" tammywammy Aug 2015 #241

At this point, I think you are just deliberately being dense and disruptive. ladyVet Aug 2015 #271

You seem to have my position on this entirely wrong. daredtowork Aug 2015 #305

"You seem to have my position on this entirely wrong." ladyVet Aug 2015 #416

Thank you for your reply daredtowork Aug 2015 #418

Not necessarily. notadmblnd Aug 2015 #336

I'm not blaming the dog at all. I completely agree that a stressed out owner pnwmom Aug 2015 #341

Well you said that the people who tried to help were misled notadmblnd Aug 2015 #361

alert results irisblue Aug 2015 #296

Well put pnwmom Puzzledtraveller Aug 2015 #400

If you keep on ohheckyeah Aug 2015 #215

Peace to all involved, from up close and from a distance. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #219

I agree ohheckyeah Aug 2015 #237

True, it is sad, but for longtime posters it is reminiscent of past 'emergency' threads Nay Aug 2015 #342

Oh goodness, this does bring back memories of bobbolink. :( n/t OneGrassRoot Aug 2015 #348

If Yoshi were a child LuvLoogie Aug 2015 #221

this is what DU helping looks like: foo_bar Aug 2015 #233

I chipped in a small amount at her gofundme site yesterday magical thyme Aug 2015 #245

perhaps the best thing may be get a service dog vest to her and have her train the dog Sunlei Aug 2015 #246

What you are suggesting is a federal crime. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #260

no it is not a crime to train your own service dog. And tell your Doctor all about it. Sunlei Aug 2015 #265

Getting the dog a service vest before it's trained is a crime. And that was your implication. PeaceNikki Aug 2015 #267

no I use "the in training" patch on the service vest with a new dog or puppy. not a crime, sorry. Sunlei Aug 2015 #269

If you've been paying any attention at all to SheilaT Aug 2015 #368

By now it's obvious, the dog is her emotional support dog. Sunlei Aug 2015 #378

There's a difference between SheilaT Aug 2015 #380

actually the Akita did very well its past 2 -4 weeks. Handled by multi-strangers and some with Sunlei Aug 2015 #381

Actually, the Akita in question SheilaT Aug 2015 #382

Could have been much, much worse if the dog didn't inhibit using its teeth. Sunlei Aug 2015 #383

Been following this from a distance. My 2 cents, FWIW. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #263

Thank you gwheezie Aug 2015 #264

The TTW Subtext (Sorry if this is "calling you out") daredtowork Aug 2015 #295

And here you are again, precious. No time to go find 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #307

Well said. HappyMe Aug 2015 #310

If you think I have "loads of criticism", you must fall into one of 2 categories: daredtowork Aug 2015 #314

I think that you running through this thread HappyMe Aug 2015 #318

For two reasons daredtowork Aug 2015 #320

If you are accusing people of something, you need to prove it. HappyMe Aug 2015 #323

There seems to be more and more people coming on to this thread daredtowork Aug 2015 #327

She has her dog back. HappyMe Aug 2015 #328

You are falsely accusing me of accusing others daredtowork Aug 2015 #332

STOP!! For everyone's sake, just stop. You aren't helping TTW or Yoshi or anyone else, yourself haikugal Aug 2015 #340

I've been asking others to stop pestering me about it daredtowork Aug 2015 #350

No one forced you to do any of the things you've done... haikugal Aug 2015 #353

What are you talking about? daredtowork Aug 2015 #357

You keep repeating yourself because you can't accept it's over. haikugal Aug 2015 #358

No, it's the false accusations daredtowork Aug 2015 #362

Please see post 343 7two7rees mistook you for darkangel218 sketchy Aug 2015 #360

Thank you, I thought some misunderstanding was going on there. daredtowork Aug 2015 #363

In Other News daredtowork Aug 2015 #364

Glad to hear it. AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #367

I'm not sure what's going on with you daredtowork Aug 2015 #311

No, daredtowork, darling, you don't get to turn it back on me. 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #315

You must be in a different time zone because daredtowork Aug 2015 #319

Okay, I begged you!! At the extreme risk of being banned 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #322

I'm sorry you see this as me "winning" daredtowork Aug 2015 #324

OH PLEASE..... go take another nap. You sound sleep still and groggy. You need to take care of YOU trueblue2007 Aug 2015 #345

Now that's a turn around daredtowork Aug 2015 #356

You seem to be confusing two posters Ms. Toad Aug 2015 #343

I'm so glad you said something... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #344

Yeah, same here n/t Violet_Crumble Aug 2015 #346

Thank You daredtowork Aug 2015 #359

Seems pretty darn reasonable and wise. nt 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #304

Me, too. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #309

Here's the rub daredtowork Aug 2015 #313

There seems to be some confusion vs. the shelter and the rescue org. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #317

Yes I actually retyped that daredtowork Aug 2015 #321

One last post, you yourself, have never actually been in 7wo7rees Aug 2015 #325

I PM'd her several times daredtowork Aug 2015 #330

Excellent post - emergency funds for a car repair, for example Yo_Mama Aug 2015 #354

My point exactly. Thank you. n/t AngryOldDem Aug 2015 #365

Send money guns and lawyers. lonestarnot Aug 2015 #312

Donate more money indisciminantly. nt LexVegas Aug 2015 #333

To be fair, Codeine Aug 2015 #335

Just curious - what was that about? NaturalHigh Aug 2015 #347

PM headed your way. nt Codeine Aug 2015 #351

Can you send me the same pm.........I linked to a OP for him, and I think I'll msanthrope Aug 2015 #379

At least the "criminal" is willing to do what it takes... Adrahil Aug 2015 #397

At the risk of incurring wrath from all sides Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #384

Your point being... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #385

My point being... Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #386

Not really... TeeYiYi Aug 2015 #387

I agree with you on all points. Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #388

I think sufficient money would have been "enough" to keep her in her (then) current situation PoliticAverse Aug 2015 #393

More thoughts on "throwing money at the problem" sketchy Aug 2015 #389

It would be interesting to see Syzygy321 Aug 2015 #390

Here is the paragraph that came from, to get the context of it sketchy Aug 2015 #391

I don't think that "throwing money" is the right frame. lumberjack_jeff Aug 2015 #402

I've had pets my whole life..... Adrahil Aug 2015 #398

Well, For Starters RobinA Aug 2015 #399

I have heard from TTW. They are both safe. magical thyme Aug 2015 #396

Thank you for posting this. That's very good news. crazylikafox Aug 2015 #401

I'd like to hear more when you have permission please. PearliePoo2 Aug 2015 #404

they are not safe. TTW is living in a place msanthrope Aug 2015 #405

They released Yoshi to your ex and TTW without being paid? cwydro Aug 2015 #406

They are good and decent people. msanthrope Aug 2015 #407

I posted a suggestion that someone contact the Pennsylvania SPCA mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #408

I'm too close to the situation to make a rational decision regarding that..... msanthrope Aug 2015 #409

I hope Yoshi is seeing a vet for his bowel problems and kennel cough. Damn. bettyellen Aug 2015 #414

I think you've got the correct solution. Vinca Aug 2015 #412

Wait melman Aug 2015 #410

I want to be happy about that, because at least he's not on the streets. ladyVet Aug 2015 #417

Just curious: Where is the OP? Off to start a third thread? Hekate Aug 2015 #420