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In reply to the discussion: Degrees of Separation of Culpability. How the Plutocrats are carrying out a global mass slaughter. [View all]Zalatix
(8,994 posts)I attacked your idiotic arguments, not you. You are the one who started this, and now you can't take what you dished out? Oh, poor you. You must need a band-aid for all those self-inflicted wounds on your ego. Wounds that you're now blaming on me.
And you still haven't shown any "conspiracy theory" in my argument.
For you to claim that anything I said was wrong, you must deny that outsourcing does occur. You must deny that MILLIONS of Americans out there have spent up to 2 years being unable to find a job. You must deny that this can lead to homelessness. You must then deny that malnutrition and deadly diseases are spreading among the homeless. You must then deny that this can and often does lead to death.
For me to be wrong and your delusionary madness of an argument to hold, you must claim that the Plutocrats do not collude to send jobs out of this country. You must then argue that these folks don't lobby the Government to keep jobs leaving America, and you must also argue that they don't lobby Republicans and Democrats to cut welfare benefits, health care benefits and unemployment benefits for the poor.
You must categorically deny all of that, for your laughably misguided argument to hold water. Oh and Orwell is rolling in his grave at the idea of you invoking his name.
Uh huh, yeah, is that why President Barack Obama himself accused the Republicans, who are by run by a group that fits the definition a cabal, of social Darwinism?
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/04/president-obama-delivers-blistering-partisan-attack-on-modern-republican-party/
President Obama is a lawyer by trade. A Harvard Law School-educated lawyer. He doesn't just throw words out there; he is very precise in the things that he says. When he accuses the GOP of social Darwinism he is not throwing out hyperbole; President Obama doesn't do hyperbole. He very much means the GOP's goal is to cull the working class herd. Culling the weak is the core of social Darwinism. For your argument to have any basis in reality you must now deny that President Obama accused the GOP of social Darwinism.
Now who bankrolls the GOP? The Plutocracy; particularly, ultra rich billionaires like the Koch brothers and organizations like the Heritage Foundation and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. You want to know what the cabal is? It's this specific group.
They're why we couldn't get an anti-offshoring bill through Congress - neither the Koch Brothers nor the U.S. Chamber of Commerce are in Congress, but they hold more influence over Congress than 300 million American voters. Do you deny this? Well, do you? I'm waiting. You're the one who started this, now let's hear it - do you deny that the Koch Brothers and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce bankroll the war on American workers, the war on the social safety net, the war on unemployment benefits, and the war on the working class? Do you deny the Koch Brothers' connection to the John Birch Society and the Heritage Foundation? Remember, you're the one who said this was a conspiracy theory and that there wasn't a cabal behind it - so what would you call the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, the Heritage Foundation and the Koch Brothers, all waging a war against the working class, waging a war against the social safety net, all wielding more influence than we the people? If you say THAT is not a cabal then your credibility is clearly dead on arrival.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cabal
The people and groups whose names I have specifically mentioned, have been proven to be a close-knit group which promotes their private views in the State, often by circumventing the will of the People by the use of their extreme collective wealth. They wield their power constantly, always behind the scenes, with ZERO accountability to we the people. Do you deny any of this? Please, I dare you to. I can be here all day showing you news articles.
Now would you like to admit you're wrong, or are there any other bullshit gyrations and excuses you'd like to throw out as a smokescreen to defend what's left of your credibility and ego?
Edited to add: This would be a smart time for you to declare victory and claim that this argument isn't worth continuing... because at this point your argument has pretty much committed suicide.