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Erich Bloodaxe BSN

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77. I think you're agreeing with the 'complete BS post'.

Sun Aug 9, 2015, 09:55 AM

Aug 2015

When you says it 'says a lot more about the society', you're saying exactly what the article does - that society is not responding to these tactics as you think society should, that the reality on the ground is not working as those who chose the tactics wanted it to.

It may be 'condescending' or 'tone deaf', but there is a legitimate core point - the tactics being used may not be working as desired, unless the desire is actually to create a more sharply defined wedge between segments of society than already exist.

The latest protesters spoke some truth up there - white progressives have been mostly (or utterly, or whatever the word was) useless in addressing the problems facing black people.

But surely the goal is actually finding a way to actually do something about those problems, and ideally, as soon as possible.

So are the tactics being employed creating such results?

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Political Awareness Matters: How Black Lives Matter Are Screwing Themselves -- And the Rest of Us [View all] FourScore Aug 2015 OP

Watching a particular segment of the Left trying to win the nomination while shitting all over alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #1

watching said protesters ibegurpard Aug 2015 #3

Cheers alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #6

And good luck to BLM as well ibegurpard Aug 2015 #8

Exposing fake allies in their fakery is equally useful alcibiades_mystery Aug 2015 #12

if you think what happened today ibegurpard Aug 2015 #16

Oh, there's some central leadership, alright. Marr Aug 2015 #88

Yep. It's a political smear tactic against a candidate who cannot be attacked on any policy issue GoneFishin Aug 2015 #98

Blammo. hifiguy Aug 2015 #120

Even if they're just clueless, which might be the case, Warpy Aug 2015 #127

How is Bernie a fake ally? RichVRichV Aug 2015 #20

It's just another lie. It's all they have n/t arcane1 Aug 2015 #32

They're doing a pretty piss poor job of trying to make the case that we are "fake"... cascadiance Aug 2015 #60

Anybody who doesn't like being treated as a wartime enemy is a fake ally. Nuclear Unicorn Aug 2015 #75

Most important black movement in 20 years? Do I hear the cheery sound Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #58

A Hillary supporter speaks... Katashi_itto Aug 2015 #65

Welll, LiberalElite Aug 2015 #86

What is funny is watching anyone who says they care about black lives me b zola Aug 2015 #92

This article is condescending and tone deaf. Gravitycollapse Aug 2015 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Aug 2015 #5

I called a "follow the money" post out on another thread for this very reason. 6000eliot Aug 2015 #7

The effects of the historic civil rights campaign in the sixties seems to have Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #62

Shit down and shut up is BLM's message . bahrbearian Aug 2015 #74

No they don't. What I hear from them is STFU, we don't want to hear from you. GoneFishin Aug 2015 #99

They might be saying "Go Hilliary" bahrbearian Aug 2015 #104

Well, to be fair, "Look what I've done for you people" 6000eliot Aug 2015 #111

Its a fair question, but they never allowed an answer. It was sit down and listen. bahrbearian Aug 2015 #124

Yes it is ibegurpard Aug 2015 #10

One thing that I have heard from friends who live the experience loyalsister Aug 2015 #38

Interesting that the discussion about BLM tactics has morphed into FK the Liberals Hmmm eom LiberalElite Aug 2015 #80

Reading the article through a certain lens, it suggests that people (the BLM movement) owe KingCharlemagne Aug 2015 #84

Then they won't get what they claim to want. jeff47 Aug 2015 #93

As an experiment, replace BLM with OWS. NuclearDem Aug 2015 #4

Please, please, think before whitesplaining. pnwmom Aug 2015 #9

No one's whitesplaining now ibegurpard Aug 2015 #11

No one's listening, either. They made it clear what their goal is and you, among others, just ignored it. n/t pnwmom Aug 2015 #15

What's the goal? romanic Aug 2015 #18

It was in my post. The second link is from their Facebook page. pnwmom Aug 2015 #22

That's what BLM wants. romanic Aug 2015 #23

The OP is about BLM. pnwmom Aug 2015 #54

Why not ask the current president for those things NOW. onecaliberal Aug 2015 #108

Obama has security around him that would prevent them from getting that close to him. pnwmom Aug 2015 #109

If they were protesting at the White house onecaliberal Aug 2015 #114

You think 3 women shouting and waving signs at whatever is the legal distance from the White House pnwmom Aug 2015 #116

Look, I completely understand their anger and the onecaliberal Aug 2015 #118

"You must kneel before us" is always a good way to get people to listen. jeff47 Aug 2015 #94

Seattle is one of the gentrification capitals of the US. Gravitycollapse Aug 2015 #19

White liberals in Seattle don't create gentrification. romanic Aug 2015 #27

They absolutely do. Just as white, upwardly mobile consumers do in every city. Gravitycollapse Aug 2015 #31

No. romanic Aug 2015 #33

You've unwittingly demonstrated my point. They could institute rent control and other things... Gravitycollapse Aug 2015 #36

Yes many people know this ibegurpard Aug 2015 #39

Hopefully, it will wake some of them up to their complicity in the white supremacist power structure Gravitycollapse Aug 2015 #43

Oh my goodness romanic Aug 2015 #49

it won't ibegurpard Aug 2015 #59

More flowery tactics have clearly failed. So maybe something more radical is needed. Gravitycollapse Aug 2015 #61

No they shouldnt ibegurpard Aug 2015 #66

Then what is the solution? romanic Aug 2015 #40

The solution to gentrification is way too complex for me to fully comprehend... Gravitycollapse Aug 2015 #42

So in layman terms: "I don't have an answer." romanic Aug 2015 #47

So...I don't know how to fix it, but you guys are awful for not fixing it. jeff47 Aug 2015 #95

It's illegal in Washington State for any city to institute rent control measures. JimDandy Aug 2015 #125

As a white resident of rapidly gentrifying NYC I can testify that LiberalElite Aug 2015 #81

Enough with the "shut down" shit romanic Aug 2015 #14

Supporters of candidates should be trying much harder to listen. pnwmom Aug 2015 #17

Sanders listened for twenty minutes. romanic Aug 2015 #21

Did you miss this? pnwmom Aug 2015 #25

No I didnt miss it. romanic Aug 2015 #28

They're satisfied with O'Malley's package even though he presided over a pnwmom Aug 2015 #30

It's not about pleasing them romanic Aug 2015 #34

There are three choices that I can see. Bernie can either develop a plan like O'Malley did, pnwmom Aug 2015 #105

Fine. They can have their protest, but then GET OFF THE STAGE!!! FourScore Aug 2015 #26

Clinton hasn't been having this kind of event. She's been meeting with small groups of supporters pnwmom Aug 2015 #29

They tried. The protesters tussled with them. Sanders left, probably out of safety concerns. n/t FourScore Aug 2015 #35

So...they're unable to block the roads leading to a Clinton event? jeff47 Aug 2015 #96

The three women who disrupted Bernie's speech couldn't have blocked the roads pnwmom Aug 2015 #107

Because BLM is these three women. jeff47 Aug 2015 #119

HRH studiously avoids mixing with the common people, hifiguy Aug 2015 #122

Sec.Clinton has full-time Secret Service protection. No Vested Interest Aug 2015 #41

If this is their cause, legitimately, then rusty fender Aug 2015 #100

Your reasoning is circular here. pnwmom Aug 2015 #106

After watching the video of the BLM disruption in Seattle, rusty fender Aug 2015 #110

The Seattle Times reported that the police offered to remove the protesters from the stage pnwmom Aug 2015 #113

This kos post is complete BS GitRDun Aug 2015 #13

Has the BLM movement RichVRichV Aug 2015 #24

I think you're agreeing with the 'complete BS post'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #77

What I see here is GitRDun Aug 2015 #83

Black Posters Matter - On DU! daredtowork Aug 2015 #37

Only some poc posters seem to matter here at DU. TM99 Aug 2015 #46

Bernie was cornered by a radio host the day after Hillary said All Lives Matter daredtowork Aug 2015 #52

There is zero proof that any Sanders supporters TM99 Aug 2015 #64

What hyperbolic name calling? daredtowork Aug 2015 #70

I know you are defending her, and I applaud that on the surface. TM99 Aug 2015 #71

I hope we hear a response from leadership as well daredtowork Aug 2015 #117

Not to mention physical contact dgibby Aug 2015 #128

Yes, definite bullying! TM99 Aug 2015 #131

Came here this morning to see if tiredtoo Aug 2015 #72

Yep. Something about it all fishy. Since when have right-wing Dems been Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #73

-and the discussion LiberalElite Aug 2015 #82

A couple of things Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #79

Four in one day usually suggests a melt down TM99 Aug 2015 #85

I'm 'pretty sure but not sure' because it was a long time ago Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #87

No it wasn't a long time ago TM99 Aug 2015 #89

I saw that bravenak's reply to one of my posts got alerted on and hidden. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Aug 2015 #78

I've seen lots of unfair hides on people of all opinions on this site. RichVRichV Aug 2015 #115

Amen to every word. Paka Aug 2015 #44

Sometimes being told 'shut up' is a sign that you're doing something right. Lancero Aug 2015 #45

Not when it's and entire park full of people screaming it at you. FourScore Aug 2015 #48

That the park would rather scream at a protest against the mass killing and incarceration... Lancero Aug 2015 #50

The protest lasted over 20 minutes...They tussled with the organizers... FourScore Aug 2015 #51

Who knows? Perhaps Hillary is doing something diffrient then Bernies campaign is? Lancero Aug 2015 #53

For security reasons, they never should have been allowed onstage. FourScore Aug 2015 #55

Unity will not be achieved by a minority hectoring and seeking Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #63

"We're being murdered in the streets and you haven't done a whole lot to help us up to now." Gravitycollapse Aug 2015 #67

Yes. I realise that, but I think Bernie would be by far the least compromised Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #76

And their tactics are saying "Don't do anything about it for at least 16 months" jeff47 Aug 2015 #97

A slightly different perspective MFrohike Aug 2015 #56

A brillliant article. What an apt metaphor - the guy Joe Chi Minh Aug 2015 #57

I doubt that MLK, Jr. would support the tactics of BLM protesting Sanders mnhtnbb Aug 2015 #68

2 things 1 blm--- try that at a walker rally. 2 Sanders needs to fix this dembotoz Aug 2015 #69

Bravo! CanonRay Aug 2015 #90

Whitesplaining, pure and simple. MineralMan Aug 2015 #91

Whitesplaining is such a useless term romanic Aug 2015 #101

Especially if you are white. 6000eliot Aug 2015 #112

especially coming from the biggest 'SPLAINER on DU. nt m-lekktor Aug 2015 #130

We need to all stand united, not divided. Otherwise, there is NO future for all of us! n/t RKP5637 Aug 2015 #102

Yes, everything needs to be perfectly controlled WhaTHellsgoingonhere Aug 2015 #103

Couldn't agree with this more. hifiguy Aug 2015 #121

Weird how so many of the same voices that faulted OWS for not having a central, single goal and Marr Aug 2015 #123

Yup. n/t JimDandy Aug 2015 #126

I've been noticing that for a while Fumesucker Aug 2015 #129