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10. The two issues that BLM sites have focused on are Sanders vote to extradite Assata Shakur from Cuba
Sun Aug 9, 2015, 01:44 PM
Aug 2015

... and his vote for a 1995 Omnibus Crime bill that they didn't like.

The details of the efforts to extradite Shakur from Cuba who was sentenced to life in prison for her killing a police officer are here... Apparently Sanders voted for this extradition.

http://bossip.com/1082103/fight-the-power-cuba-will-not-extradite-us-most-wanted-woman-black-panther-assata-shakur-for-lifted-sanctions/

If BLM wants to make a point on this issue, and it is a paramount issue that is more important to them than anything else Bernie has done for their charges, then why don't they make a point of giving similar treatment they give Bernie for Chris Christie, who has gone much further in lobbying Obama to extradite Shakur as noted in the above article... But they think focusing on Bernie for this issue will get them more results than going after Christie... Huh?

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For US law enforcement Shakur remains a dangerous criminal on the run, meriting a place on the FBI’s most-wanted list and a $2 million bounty combined from the bureau and the New Jersey state police. Republican Governor Christie demanded that her extradition be made a condition for America’s normalizing ties with Cuba in blunt terms.

“Cuba’s provision of safe harbor to Chesimard by providing political asylum to a convicted cop killer … is an affront to every resident of our state, our country, and in particular, the men and women of the New Jersey State Police,” Christie wrote in a letter to President Barack Obama.

“I urge you to demand the immediate return of Chesimard before any further consideration of restoration of diplomatic relations with the Cuban government.”
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and they might want to target Marco Rubio too, who also echoes Christie's comments to the media about the need to extradite Shakur to the U.S. as noted here...

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/rubio-slams-hillary-architect-failed-foreign-policy

Rubio—whose parents were born in Cuba under the oppressive communist regime—also leveled his criticism at President Barack Obama’s "ridiculous" plan to remove Cuba from the terrorist list, suggesting that Obama seems to be caring more about his "legacy" than good foreign policy:

“It’s ridiculous,” Rubio says. “I don’t see how they can rationalize taking them off the list, other than the president’s desire to achieve a legacy issue that he’s the one that opened up Cuba and changed fifty years of policy.”

“It doesn’t make any sense,” he continued, noting Cuba is “harboring the fugitives of American justice, including the killer of an American police officer, and dozens of people who have stolen millions of dollars from Medicare — fraud from the American taxpayer.” [...]

Cuba has also been caught twice in the last few years helping North Korea evade weapons sanctions, said Rubio, and “they continue to provide shelter and material support for terrorist groups like the FARC in Columbia and others. This is the country that is the third most active espionage force in America today, operating against us, [and also has] military officials who have been indicted in federal court for the murder of U.S. citizens over international waters.”​


The cop-killer Rubio referenced is Assata Shakur (aka JoAnne Chesimard), who was imprisoned for killing a New Jersey State Trooper and included on the FBI's terrorist list. She escaped in 1979 and fled to Cuba, where she remains protected from U.S. legal action. Shakur has made news lately because she was referenced in a list of demands to the University of California at Berkeley administration by the school's Black Student Union, which wants a building named in her honor. New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie has also recently referenced Shakur in his criticism of the Obama's "awful" Cuba deal.


Hillary Clinton seems absent on commenting or any actions on the extradition of Assata Shakur.

The only other specific issue that BLM was complaining about Bernie yesterday is his vote on a 1995 Omnibus crime bill that was noted here as Bill Clinton's bill... Does Hillary Clinton want to leave a mystery as to whether she supports this action of her husband's, as she has been on the free trade bills that Bill Clinton put in to place amongst other things.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2015/04/30/the-problem-with-bernie/


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The recent mass movement against the epidemic of police murders of (primarily) young Black men has exposed a gaping hole in the myth that comprises the United States. Racism, which Barack Obama’s election was supposed to have placed in the dustbin of history, is arguably greater now than at any time since the 1960s. Because of the aforementioned movement, the nature of the criminal justice system, the laws its enforcers enforce and how those laws are enforced, and the prison system have all been brought under well-deserved scrutiny. No politician has come up with any genuine programs that will check police brutality and remove killer cops from the streets. Nor have many politicians seriously addressed the fundamental role neoliberal capitalism plays in the impoverishment of America’s working class, especially its non-white members. Bernie Sanders’ attacks on the excesses of Wall Street and its cohorts are usually addressed to the “middle class,” that US ideal. Indeed, Sanders was one of many Congressmen who voted for the 1995 Omnibus Crime Bill that its author Bill Clinton recently acknowledged placed too much emphasis on mass incarceration and barely any on keeping young people out of prison or rehabilitating them if they ended up there. Failing to conduct a critically honest discussion that includes solutions to this problem that are not predicated on making profit would be a mistake for Sanders or any candidate. It will prove interesting to watch his moves in this area.
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I wonder why BLM doesn't protest the wife of the author of this bill, even if Bernie Sanders voted for it... Hmm.... And Bernie Sanders was the congressman who got an amendment to replace death penalties with life imprisonment penalties in that bill too.

http://www.ontheissues.org/Domestic/Bernie_Sanders_Crime.htm

Voted YES on replacing death penalty with life imprisonment.

Amendment to replace death penalty crimes in the 1994 Omnibus Crime Bill with life imprisonment.


Doesn't he get any credit for that? Many POC people on death row that have been released with DNA evidence lately might not be alive today if that hadn't been in the bill.

It would seem that if BLM can only come up with these rather nebulous and random complaints about Bernie, and not really paying attention to the larger issues that most people can agree on that this OP addresses, then they really need to rethink why they are going after Bernie, and have to step back and analyze if there is something personal and not too rational about their negative emotions they are telegraphing in their protests.

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20 ways to be a BLM racist [View all] upi402 Aug 2015 OP
Bernie's long history of racism finally exposed! LittleBlue Aug 2015 #1
I "literally" can't imagine him without his white hood FlatBaroque Aug 2015 #80
K & R AzDar Aug 2015 #2
He's still perceived as an old white guy from Vermont and he knows it. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #3
I'm sure Hillary's list is much larger than Bernies. L0oniX Aug 2015 #7
I love your sense of irony! marble falls Aug 2015 #15
He doesn't sound like an old white guy from Vermont 6chars Aug 2015 #17
As a native of Northern New England, he sounds like one to me. Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #45
He's from Brooklyn. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #47
Yes, I know. His accent is New York, his politics are VT Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #48
Yep, I grew up with people like that, all my New England relatives. n/t RKP5637 Aug 2015 #54
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2015 #31
WoW DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #36
That poster joined today and has two posts and said he/she is voting for Jeb. 1monster Aug 2015 #41
Love your Carl Jung signature stating that the most dangerous AikidoSoul Aug 2015 #75
TY, but it is that complex? DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #79
So voting for Jeb addresses racial injustice? Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #39
"They let him know that he's got work to do." - disagree 100% upi402 Aug 2015 #33
I read the whole link before I commented Gormy Cuss Aug 2015 #42
Morally impeccable record spanning 50 years. So a phony controversy must be invented to GoneFishin Aug 2015 #4
It's the long established Atwater/Rove strategy. hifiguy Aug 2015 #60
Wow. I wish I had your optimism. Actually... Smarmie Doofus Aug 2015 #5
That's some inexpensive psychoanalysis right there. What is your expertice on the collective ..... marble falls Aug 2015 #18
WoW, indeed... DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2015 #35
Hi. I am a psychoanalyst. You're utterly misguided. nolabear Aug 2015 #72
Has BLM called Bernie racist? kwassa Aug 2015 #6
Bernie was called a "White Supremacist" by BLM posers 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #9
I think more appropriate for these individuals BLM stands for "Black Lecturing Mutterers"... cascadiance Aug 2015 #14
"Not even associated with Black Lives Matter"? JHB Aug 2015 #22
I think my point was, she was not an official representative 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #29
Can you point to the "official" BLM apology? JHB Aug 2015 #43
Is this the same one you refer to? 99th_Monkey Aug 2015 #46
Possibly. The link no longer works. JHB Aug 2015 #66
No, I read the Seattle BLM actually disavowed that apology dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #70
Thanks for this. upi402 Aug 2015 #58
Not this one on the Left, eyes wide open. appalachiablue Aug 2015 #65
It manifests in all groups, without regard to ideology or even topic JHB Aug 2015 #67
Remember what the DNC did to Howard Dean? gregcrawford Aug 2015 #8
His full Seattle speech is linked here; upi402 Aug 2015 #23
Just imagine the reaction if Bernie had not allowed it. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #59
No kidding. n/t ljm2002 Aug 2015 #73
I noticed that in the Seattle media last night, disappointing for sure. His evening event appalachiablue Aug 2015 #68
The two issues that BLM sites have focused on are Sanders vote to extradite Assata Shakur from Cuba cascadiance Aug 2015 #10
What is Hillary Clinton's position on the Death Penalty? HappyPlace Aug 2015 #26
I wish the youth of today were more educated TM99 Aug 2015 #28
Wow I just read that article dreamnightwind Aug 2015 #77
My question is. Cleita Aug 2015 #11
paid operatives do what they are told restorefreedom Aug 2015 #52
This poll show the gap on Hillary closing FAST the past 3 weeks upi402 Aug 2015 #56
There were WHITE protestors along road HRC took to a private fundraiser. Divernan Aug 2015 #71
I've seen that laundry list of accomplishments (some of them subjective, but..) it would be helpful George II Aug 2015 #12
Please explain which ones are subjective and if you want dates, there is Google. Cleita Aug 2015 #16
Not my list, I'm not googling anything thank you. George II Aug 2015 #20
I didn't think so. eom Cleita Aug 2015 #21
Of course you are not 840high Aug 2015 #51
"BLM" should be in scare quotes nxylas Aug 2015 #13
See #22 above JHB Aug 2015 #24
Uh huh ProudToBeBlueInRhody Aug 2015 #38
Try not to equate all BLM with these trolls. BLM was invited to and spoke at the event Exultant Democracy Aug 2015 #19
I've heard crickets from Black Lives Matter in Seattle upi402 Aug 2015 #25
And they basically disowned the apology offered by that one individual trying to put a good face... cascadiance Aug 2015 #30
Cornel West must be just face palming upi402 Aug 2015 #53
Jesus too. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #61
That's just wrong upi402 Aug 2015 #62
Jesus is good buds with Dr. West. Enthusiast Aug 2015 #78
For the two women on the stage mudstump Aug 2015 #27
The same is true of a lot 840high Aug 2015 #50
Yep. And so many here defend this childish, selfish, assholish behavior. hifiguy Aug 2015 #63
Bookmarking to use wherever needed. his thread isn't getting much attention snagglepuss Aug 2015 #32
Thank you. Full Seattle speech linked here; upi402 Aug 2015 #34
I think mudstump Aug 2015 #37
Yes, it doesn't make any sense. moondust Aug 2015 #40
K & R +1000 Duppers Aug 2015 #44
#blacklivesmatterswinsagain JustAnotherGen Aug 2015 #49
Kick and R BeanMusical Aug 2015 #55
Yep. Guilty as charged... just another liberal white supremacist. cherokeeprogressive Aug 2015 #57
Ya never know what's lurking under that damn white skin upi402 Aug 2015 #64
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Aug 2015 #69
K&R ion_theory Aug 2015 #74
Doesn't this belong in GD-P, not GD? This is a post ENTIRELY about a Democratic candidate. nt MADem Aug 2015 #76
Locking thread TexasTowelie Aug 2015 #81
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