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In reply to the discussion: Krugman slams centrists [View all]Number23
(24,544 posts)78. Blah blah blah
Lots of words saying nothing. "But nine people agree with something I've said that's completely wrong and utter garbage!1!!1" is not a compelling argument.
I'm sure you've got a great explanation in that post somewhere but I stopped reading after your header. Here, allow me to put you out of your misery. I'll take the words of Elijah Cummings over yours any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Maxine Waters has since her statements on the issue become once again one of the president's STAUNCHEST supporters, though she has gotten much more quiet since the bogus ethics charges against her came out.
I've taken the liberty of transcribing the most salient points here. Beginning at the 3:54 second mark even though this is still Al Sharpton talking, his comment has particular relevance to this conversation:
Sharpton: I don't understand why we are getting into these DISTRACTIVE FIGHTS when we've never done this to any other Democratic president. (Distraction is the perfect word for this stupidity. And the fact that you have devoted so much time, energy and effort to these meaningless, dishonest and transparent DISTRACTIONS is as I've already said -- very telling)
Cummings: Well, Rev. I'll tell ya... I SEE ALL OF THAT AS A DISTRACTION. (Emphasis again mine). I think this president has done a remarkable job, actually and the other night when he spoke before the CBC and our guests, I did not get the impression, I did not feel insulted at all. As a matter of fact, I felt that this was a leader who was standing up and who was saying you know, we've accomplished alot. And we've got alot of people in pain. But we have got to finish the job. And I'm rallying you and I'm asking you to just stick with me so that we can finish the job. And that's the impression I got.
Keep in mind, Rev, 99% of the people when I looked around GAVE HIM A STANDING OVATION after he said what he had to say. I just think it's important that we don't get distracted and forget what the alternative is regarding the Republicans.
You're welcome. A full throated show of support from Cummings who acknowledges that the president's comments were extraordinarily well received by the vast majority of people in attendance at the CBC dinner. Good enough for me. Good enough for anyone.
I know you keep clinging to your feeble challenge like a drowning man to a life boat, but the fact of the matter is this was a non-issue EIGHT MONTHS AGO and it's even more of a non-issue now. The only people keeping this going are those trying to stir some shit between the president and his black supporters and everyone knows it. Now, I know you are desperate for reasons to criticize this president but as I've said since the beginning of this now incredibly tedious conversation, you really should remove your "concern" for the CBC from your List of... Whatever point you're trying to make.
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Add to that the DNC's tepid support for Barrett in Wisconsin to defeat Walker
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#40
You can take your concerned notice of the President's words to the CBC off your list
Number23
May 2012
#65
lol The only "surrender" I'll ever make to you is to surrender to the knowledge
Number23
May 2012
#72
If true progressive ideals were adopted and fought for, we'd ALL be democrats.
mother earth
May 2012
#13
Did anyone not know that the president was "black"? Not sure why it was necessary to use that...
Tarheel_Dem
May 2012
#17
"I'm so tired of centrism that keeps us stagnating and in endless status quo."
Tarheel_Dem
May 2012
#34
Look, not trying to do 2008 over, although JE was on message (unzipped tho he was, unknown to
mother earth
May 2012
#57
Agreed. No disrespect towards that issue, but why are all other issues now invisible?
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#41
I agree AE was a joke, but let's be real PK, there are extremes on both sides. Not sure if Paul....
Tarheel_Dem
May 2012
#16
Ever visited wsws? I mean, really. Hell, I think Greens can be extreme, but then I'm a Democrat.
Tarheel_Dem
May 2012
#19
But they are in parties that call themselves to the left of the Democrats
muriel_volestrangler
May 2012
#22
Come on muriel, you & I both know that we all get lumped in as "the left". I guess my point is.....
Tarheel_Dem
May 2012
#24
Okay, I never said they were "influential", I merely observed that they do exist.
Tarheel_Dem
May 2012
#33
He says the Democrats are centrist; he critcises the AE "centrists" with quotes
muriel_volestrangler
May 2012
#47
The Tea Party is not an actual party thus, unless they run for a non-partisan office, they MUST run
Luminous Animal
May 2012
#31
Hello Third Way Manny, I am DLC Dragonfli! (new and improved for the ultimate centrism)
Dragonfli
May 2012
#38
Why no!!! Each year we get to move further right, as far as the envelop will bear
Dragonfli
May 2012
#44
So we're safe for 10 years before we have to adopt all the current Republican policies? Whew.
AnotherMcIntosh
May 2012
#45
Why is Paul Krugman Misrepresenting the Demise of a Wall Street Funded, Right Wing...
ProSense
May 2012
#48
Given: The center is SKEWED to the Right. This makes it PRIME political real-estate.
patrice
May 2012
#50
Any "third" or "center" anything that doesn't admit your basic point: "need to call for fundamental
patrice
May 2012
#55