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Number23

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78. Blah blah blah
Sat May 19, 2012, 05:35 PM
May 2012

Lots of words saying nothing. "But nine people agree with something I've said that's completely wrong and utter garbage!1!!1" is not a compelling argument.

I'm sure you've got a great explanation in that post somewhere but I stopped reading after your header. Here, allow me to put you out of your misery. I'll take the words of Elijah Cummings over yours any day of the week and twice on Sunday. Maxine Waters has since her statements on the issue become once again one of the president's STAUNCHEST supporters, though she has gotten much more quiet since the bogus ethics charges against her came out.

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I've taken the liberty of transcribing the most salient points here. Beginning at the 3:54 second mark even though this is still Al Sharpton talking, his comment has particular relevance to this conversation:

Sharpton: I don't understand why we are getting into these DISTRACTIVE FIGHTS when we've never done this to any other Democratic president. (Distraction is the perfect word for this stupidity. And the fact that you have devoted so much time, energy and effort to these meaningless, dishonest and transparent DISTRACTIONS is as I've already said -- very telling)

Cummings: Well, Rev. I'll tell ya... I SEE ALL OF THAT AS A DISTRACTION. (Emphasis again mine). I think this president has done a remarkable job, actually and the other night when he spoke before the CBC and our guests, I did not get the impression, I did not feel insulted at all. As a matter of fact, I felt that this was a leader who was standing up and who was saying you know, we've accomplished alot. And we've got alot of people in pain. But we have got to finish the job. And I'm rallying you and I'm asking you to just stick with me so that we can finish the job. And that's the impression I got.

Keep in mind, Rev, 99% of the people when I looked around GAVE HIM A STANDING OVATION after he said what he had to say. I just think it's important that we don't get distracted and forget what the alternative is regarding the Republicans.


You're welcome. A full throated show of support from Cummings who acknowledges that the president's comments were extraordinarily well received by the vast majority of people in attendance at the CBC dinner. Good enough for me. Good enough for anyone.

I know you keep clinging to your feeble challenge like a drowning man to a life boat, but the fact of the matter is this was a non-issue EIGHT MONTHS AGO and it's even more of a non-issue now. The only people keeping this going are those trying to stir some shit between the president and his black supporters and everyone knows it. Now, I know you are desperate for reasons to criticize this president but as I've said since the beginning of this now incredibly tedious conversation, you really should remove your "concern" for the CBC from your List of... Whatever point you're trying to make.

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Krugman slams centrists [View all] Marzupialis May 2012 OP
kick Liberal_in_LA May 2012 #1
Krugman naills it, bvar22 May 2012 #2
Indeed, the pattern is CRYSTAL clear -- Hell Hath No Fury May 2012 #6
Van Jones, Shirley Sherrod, exiled. Dont call me Shirley May 2012 #7
Thanks. bvar22 May 2012 #9
To Further Prove Your Point Yavin4 May 2012 #8
I wish I could rec this post 1000 times hifiguy May 2012 #14
+10000 JDPriestly May 2012 #28
Yep...you nailed it, bvar22! tex-wyo-dem May 2012 #37
Add to that the DNC's tepid support for Barrett in Wisconsin to defeat Walker AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #40
yeah, that was the plan from the start Blue_Tires May 2012 #52
And one more .... LiberalLovinLug May 2012 #59
You can take your concerned notice of the President's words to the CBC off your list Number23 May 2012 #65
I will be glad to do that just as soon as you.... bvar22 May 2012 #66
I stand by what I said too Number23 May 2012 #67
I see you FAILED to respond to my challenge, bvar22 May 2012 #68
Your "challenge" has nothing to do with anything that I've said Number23 May 2012 #70
EXACTLY!!!! bvar22 May 2012 #71
lol The only "surrender" I'll ever make to you is to surrender to the knowledge Number23 May 2012 #72
Pretending to Laughing Off failure... bvar22 May 2012 #73
And the desire to continue to brazenly tout something Number23 May 2012 #74
More Bluster and Smoke. bvar22 May 2012 #75
LOL! When you have to resort to "nine other people agreed with me" Number23 May 2012 #76
The fact that 9 others "understood" the "point" of my post... bvar22 May 2012 #77
Blah blah blah Number23 May 2012 #78
Anything by Krugman, I upvote first and read later. 2ndAmForComputers May 2012 #3
K&R 99Forever May 2012 #4
K&R Hell Hath No Fury May 2012 #5
The BIG Problem I have with "Sensible Centrists"... bvar22 May 2012 #10
Yup, too often centrists are like "independents" or "libertarians" Salviati May 2012 #20
Too often independents seem more liberal than centrists. nt Hatchling May 2012 #46
my sentiments exactly SemperEadem May 2012 #60
slammin' DURec. KG May 2012 #11
Oops: ProSense May 2012 #12
If true progressive ideals were adopted and fought for, we'd ALL be democrats. mother earth May 2012 #13
Did anyone not know that the president was "black"? Not sure why it was necessary to use that... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #17
Apologies, it's just that after two steals we were allowed the real win, mother earth May 2012 #27
"I'm so tired of centrism that keeps us stagnating and in endless status quo." Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #34
Look, not trying to do 2008 over, although JE was on message (unzipped tho he was, unknown to mother earth May 2012 #57
"embrace the real base."? I am the base. 4th generation Democrat here. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #58
Agreed. No disrespect towards that issue, but why are all other issues now invisible? AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #41
HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT May 2012 #15
I agree AE was a joke, but let's be real PK, there are extremes on both sides. Not sure if Paul.... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #16
Great, so if there are extremes on both sides go ahead and list them... JAbuchan08 May 2012 #18
Ever visited wsws? I mean, really. Hell, I think Greens can be extreme, but then I'm a Democrat. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #19
But they are in parties that call themselves to the left of the Democrats muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #22
Come on muriel, you & I both know that we all get lumped in as "the left". I guess my point is..... Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #24
I think you're completely wrong muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #30
Okay, I never said they were "influential", I merely observed that they do exist. Tarheel_Dem May 2012 #33
He says the Democrats are centrist; he critcises the AE "centrists" with quotes muriel_volestrangler May 2012 #47
The Tea Party is not an actual party thus, unless they run for a non-partisan office, they MUST run Luminous Animal May 2012 #31
But the "centrists" are not reacting to wsws, they're reacting to Obama JAbuchan08 May 2012 #64
False equivalency. Egalitarian Thug May 2012 #26
K&R me b zola May 2012 #21
This is just my opinion, but on a political spectrum Jamaal510 May 2012 #23
I have a particular loathing for dem centrists. xchrom May 2012 #25
Exactly! tex-wyo-dem May 2012 #39
Bail-outs. Failed wars. True. But they are not finished yet. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #42
Amen to that. nt raouldukelives May 2012 #53
K&R. Democratic centrists apparently feel the recall fight bullwinkle428 May 2012 #29
He forgot to mention shilling for online voting? n/t eridani May 2012 #32
The powers that be already have the upper hand. Bonobo May 2012 #35
If only Krugman had the intellectual horsepower of Geithner or Summers MannyGoldstein May 2012 #36
Hello Third Way Manny, I am DLC Dragonfli! (new and improved for the ultimate centrism) Dragonfli May 2012 #38
OK. You've convinced me. I'm in. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #43
Why no!!! Each year we get to move further right, as far as the envelop will bear Dragonfli May 2012 #44
So we're safe for 10 years before we have to adopt all the current Republican policies? Whew. AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #45
Why is Paul Krugman Misrepresenting the Demise of a Wall Street Funded, Right Wing... ProSense May 2012 #48
Centrists are the most useless people in politics... nt Comrade_McKenzie May 2012 #49
Given: The center is SKEWED to the Right. This makes it PRIME political real-estate. patrice May 2012 #50
Americans Elect was a terrible idea Alcibiades May 2012 #51
Any "third" or "center" anything that doesn't admit your basic point: "need to call for fundamental patrice May 2012 #55
Wow, there's a ton of trolls here. xtraxritical May 2012 #54
Please retract your statement, Centrists are not trolls, they are the heart of our great party! /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #56
Thank you! for how you framed this critique. patrice May 2012 #61
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NAILED IT! As usual... on point May 2012 #63
Where is "The Center"? bvar22 May 2012 #69
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