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37. I remember the last time a President seemed so certain on a military matter

Mon Aug 10, 2015, 01:45 PM

Aug 2015

it was 2003. It didn't work out that well.

As for their certainty, I think they know plenty about the situation but that these public pronouncements are meant to galvanize support and they are avoiding any expression of uncertainty. Maybe they are overconfident. It has happened plenty of times before. Politicians do this all the time. i don't pretend to know what the future holds, but i also don't believe that the President knows exactly what the future holds. I think there is value to healthy skepticism. You don't have to.

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