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In reply to the discussion: White fragility (lot of this around here recently!): [View all]Armstead
(47,803 posts)She is certainly entitled to believe her stuff, and try to convince others, include we misguided stupid obnoxious white liberals. And even to just vent.
But Listening is a 2 WAY Street. It quickly became clear that in hr view disagreement was not allowed and would instantly shot down shut the fuck up and claims that she speaks for ALL black people.
And we should not say a word against isues like the Holy TPP because the Beloved Black President supports it. That's just nonsense. And it is a form of racism in itself. It implies that "all blacks are..." and are not equipped to distinguish their emotions from their brains. It also implies that Obama has to be handled like a delicate flower, rather than a politician who isn President.
I may not be black and I may be an awful white liberal, but I have a few brains, perspective and -- oh my GOD -- I actually have been very close to many blacks over the years, including members of my own extended family. And we have actually talked about things.
yeah, yeah/ I know. "Some of my best friends are..." But you know what? That may be a white liberal cliche, but it doesn't negate what I have heard from many black people who do not happen to share that posters views.
But that poster wasn't interested in actual dialogue. She just wanted (as she often has) to showboat and sandbag and berate people.
Like I said before, I have had strong disagreements and debates with many people I have disagreed with here over the years -- but I seldom left them with such a bad taste in my mouth. And she obviously prompted the same reaction among many others.